From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Dec 27 07:13:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64628 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2007 15:13:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Dec 2007 15:13:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n48a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.142) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2007 15:13:05 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n48.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2007 15:13:05 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2007 15:13:05 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2007 15:13:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:13:04 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.142 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Sky's the limit at the Funderland rollercoaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=Zqh5zxWJkqlb2zMTtyFkudz8uJZyCzKtkbmXfq4kAm-KBLk X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 December 18 2007 The Independent Ireland http://www.independent.ie/national-news/skys-the-limit-at-the-funderland-ro= llercoaster-1249497.html By Colin Bartley DUBLIN, IRELAND -- The wheels are in motion for the launch of the country's biggest ever rollercoaster on St Stephen's Day. The 2,000ft ride is the centrepiece at this year's Funderland amusement park at Dublin's RDS. Passengers will rise to a maximum height of 85ft before plummeting back towards earth at 50mph. It contains a full 360 degree loop and has come all the way from Italy for its Irish outing. The coaster, designed by German rollercoaster engineer Anton Schwarzkopf, is being constructed on the site at present, as our picture by Steve Humphreys shows. John McGee of Funderland said: "It's a huge new rollercoaster and the biggest machine of its kind ever in . She's a looping rollercoaster, formidable!" ------------- =A9independent.ie From natekohlrusch@gmail.com Thu Dec 27 07:14:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: natekohlrusch@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 80416 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2007 15:14:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Dec 2007 15:14:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO rv-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.198.187) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2007 15:14:13 -0000 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c24so2259464rvf.37 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:14:13 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.89.13 with SMTP id r13mr4093119rvl.177.1198768453505; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:14:13 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.88.17 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:14:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:14:13 -0600 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Originating-IP: 209.85.198.187 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Nate Kohlrusch" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Big One rollercoaster set for makeover? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252692647; y=W91mBpRvJbHdIf04Hov_nb3H61-9XbaYHROhObsjgblux2FJrVVuJE8 X-Yahoo-Profile: coasterdude318 > And Blackpool > Pleasure Beach is ready get on board with plans to rebrand The Big One > in red, white and blue. Uh...isn't the Big One already red, white, and blue? :) -Nate From m.e.cowan@gmail.com Thu Dec 27 07:17:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: m.e.cowan@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30007 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2007 15:17:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Dec 2007 15:17:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.174) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2007 15:17:03 -0000 X-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so2157835uge.39 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:17:02 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.239.2 with SMTP id m2mr6687206ugh.26.1198768622443; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:17:02 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.245.17 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:17:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ab4641f0712270717r502fc26qa2eb3a1cd2ee1733@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:17:02 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Originating-IP: 66.249.92.174 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Michael Cowan" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] MISC: Miniclip Game - Rollercoaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=284040117; y=Kcik7sUnQyfP-LZRAy9TygfC43p4RjGFfHPu7esbfj445SA X-Yahoo-Profile: mike_ska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I downloaded a game very similar to this to my cell phone, but instead of the animated backgrounds and full trains, it was just a single mine cart traveling along a single line. Most dissapointing game I've ever played. This version, with a full train, was much more fun. Thanks Mike On 12/27/07, Alan wrote: > > Okay, I've come across another little online rollercoaster game. > http://www.miniclip.com/games/rollercoaster/en/ > > It's very simple, but very fun - and for you game-phobic people, there > are only 2 buttons to control the game <- slower, and -> faster. > > -Alan > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Dec 27 07:17:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 51815 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2007 15:17:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Dec 2007 15:17:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.158) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2007 15:17:23 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2007 15:17:23 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2007 15:17:23 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2007 15:17:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:22 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.158 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: NEWS: Big One rollercoaster set for makeover? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=QOI5elDoBYVIajg4LZrQVzBYU6YykAjwvvLoy1evpL8-4zk X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 No, it's Blue, Red & White ;) -Alan --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Nate Kohlrusch" wrote: > Uh...isn't the Big One already red, white, and blue? :) >=20 > -Nate From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Thu Dec 27 15:32:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64127 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2007 23:32:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Dec 2007 23:32:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.55) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2007 23:32:12 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 29397 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Dec 2007 23:32:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 0cCmN8cVM1lMtMW53OoyiSWnZ7fRrmpKp6Y_9CLDhyg.strwvP7txr1irowJpjTeGTUz_58_s23e5aA1iRNAGuN1ZkBY7OAaHYSTm7AXyOYmNFwjyA-- X-Received: from [71.127.3.107] by web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:32:11 PST Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:32:11 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1198743400.2787.54007.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <795268.29385.qm@web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.55 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: MISC: Design a Roller Coaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=RfkouvNT9suRW-OXLRMRr1RNVDjhQBynuOafHChw_geWTdaiqiKR X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd seen the "Funderstanding" site before. It is fun. The other site is odd, though. I got this warning on the silly model I designed: "Your coaster will follow the curve of a projectile, leave the track and become airborne part way down" I guess the site's creators don't know much about real coasters. Or else I'm designing a side-friction looper.... Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Thu Dec 27 16:50:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60153 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 00:50:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2007 00:50:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n30a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.33) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2007 00:50:36 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n30.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 00:50:33 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 00:50:33 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:50:33 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.33 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 138.89.128.156 From: "Mike Gallagher" Subject: Re: NEWS: Big One rollercoaster set for makeover? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=JQwz-ymxgzurD4VHOS8TUQrSj80SdwREnFEu06qcugdc1HlKVx4e X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 will form part of the resort's showcase extravaganza culminating in > the re-dedication of the refurbished Promenade cenotaph.=20 Many people have told me over the years that I sound like I have a=20=20 British accent. Since I've never been out of the USA except to Canada=20 as a 5-6 year old, my theory is that I picked up vocal inflections from=20 listening to(and "singing" along to) so much British music in the=20 80's..Joe Jackson, Police, Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, etc....but all that=20 notwithstanding, I haven't a bloody notion of what the word "cenotaph"=20 means. I could look it up, but it would mean more if someone on this=20 forum could shed some light..whatever it is, it is in an amusement=20 park, after all.=20=20=20 Mike From paul.beesley@mac.com Fri Dec 28 00:13:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: paul.beesley@mac.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 74785 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 08:13:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2007 08:13:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO smtpoutm.mac.com) (17.148.16.66) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2007 08:13:34 -0000 X-Received: from webmail008 (webmail008-s [10.13.128.8]) by smtpoutm.mac.com (Xserve/smtpout003/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id lBS8DWJF025883; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:13:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:13:32 -0800 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Cc: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: in-reply-to: references: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Received: from [unknown] from webmail.mac.com with HTTP; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:13:32 -0800 X-Received: from [ 204.110.170.5] from webmail.mac.com with HTTP; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:13:32 -0800 X-Originating-IP: 17.148.16.66 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0 From: Paul Beesley Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Big One rollercoaster set for makeover? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=329007503; y=kOw9KhV4bT9GpgDoisiVgtjT6uc46EVjT-9wgnn4qb8oItVVag X-Yahoo-Profile: ridemadcom Hi Mike, The Cenotaph is a war memorial on the promenade at Blackpool. Its about a mile from the pleasure beach. It's used to remember those who died in the various wars, each year people lay flowers and poppys on this to remember the dead. I found a picture on flickr of the Cenotaph. http://www.flickr.com/photos/14302637@N08/2135687482/ hope this help Paul On Friday, December 28, 2007, at 12:50AM, "Mike Gallagher" wrote: >will form part of the resort's showcase extravaganza culminating in >> the re-dedication of the refurbished Promenade cenotaph. > >Many people have told me over the years that I sound like I have a >British accent. Since I've never been out of the USA except to Canada >as a 5-6 year old, my theory is that I picked up vocal inflections from >listening to(and "singing" along to) so much British music in the >80's..Joe Jackson, Police, Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, etc....but all that >notwithstanding, I haven't a bloody notion of what the word "cenotaph" >means. I could look it up, but it would mean more if someone on this >forum could shed some light..whatever it is, it is in an amusement >park, after all. > >Mike > > From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Fri Dec 28 05:18:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 77023 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 13:18:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2007 13:18:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n51b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.165) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2007 13:18:21 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n51.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 13:18:21 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 13:18:21 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 13:18:21 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:18:21 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.165 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 138.89.128.156 From: "Mike Gallagher" Subject: Re: NEWS: Big One rollercoaster set for makeover? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=0hDehlgEmE_VDC1H-gDXbOA9Y3y5ZBPP5wRu7zUngohNz0qGe6tn X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, Paul Beesley=20 wrote: > > Hi Mike, > The Cenotaph is a war memorial on the promenade at Blackpool. Its=20 about a mile from the pleasure beach. It's used to remember those who=20 died in the various wars, each year people lay flowers and poppys on=20 this to remember the dead. >=20 > I found a picture on flickr of the Cenotaph. >=20 > http://www.flickr.com/photos/14302637@N08/2135687482/ >=20 > hope this help > Paul=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks, Paul! From dougjnelson@gmail.com Fri Dec 28 06:25:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: dougjnelson@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 35629 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 14:25:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2007 14:25:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n11.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.138) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2007 14:25:38 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n11.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 14:25:38 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 14:25:38 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 14:25:38 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:25:36 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.138 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 68.119.231.37 From: "Doug Nelson" Subject: Ghost Town? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=261787472; y=s8Wr9CLsCBnRQNDretb2ArHmUfKTnz104P4g6-hpEjAEtY5TVBrotr4M5g X-Yahoo-Profile: fluffythegod3000 hey, so we are up here in Maggie Valley, NC. as we are driving around i see=20 that unfortunately Ghost Town in the Sky is closed. I havent been=20 there since i was a little kid, and dont remember much. The sight of=20 the coaster on the side of the mountain is awesome though. Anyone=20 ever ridden it? How is it? from the ground it doesnt look like it does=20 much. id hesitate to call it a kiddie coaster given its location=20 though.=20 From natekohlrusch@gmail.com Fri Dec 28 06:50:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: natekohlrusch@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 50074 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 14:50:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2007 14:50:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO rv-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.198.191) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2007 14:50:14 -0000 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k15so2604396rvb.53 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:50:14 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.15.19 with SMTP id s19mr4784233rvi.161.1198853414485; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:50:14 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.88.17 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:50:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:50:14 -0600 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Originating-IP: 209.85.198.191 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Nate Kohlrusch" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Ghost Town? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252692647; y=KFKMQvIzFIw2Sz1Haqzx1owXGcZ5Qgbk8sTjN7wxoCsup3QFCnUE6Gg X-Yahoo-Profile: coasterdude318 > so we are up here in Maggie Valley, NC. as we are driving around i see > that unfortunately Ghost Town in the Sky is closed...The sight of > the coaster on the side of the mountain is awesome though. Anyone > ever ridden it? How is it? from the ground it doesnt look like it does > much. id hesitate to call it a kiddie coaster given its location > though. Plus I'm not aware of too many kiddie coasters that go upside-down. Maybe just the one at Dorney Park... ;) -Nate From lance@screamscape.com Fri Dec 28 06:54:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 15222 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 14:54:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2007 14:54:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta18.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2007 14:54:11 -0000 X-Received: from dm07.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta18.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731B140CC6 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:53:59 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm07 X-Received: by dm07.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id dm07.476ab11c.419c91 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:53:58 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHdQ4GI1xaTAIAAAAB,871a2c5911df0f94716287d182c9edc3 Message-ID: To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:54:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Ghost Town? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=EKXdo8CDS8XyDgK4e2pFRTmNPDilBGXoVLwQzofGHblYuiI8zvre6Jsk2Q X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It hasn't reopened since the park reopened last spring as they needed to get all new trains made for it. It should be ready to roll this spring however. ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Nelson To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: [RollerCoasterTalk] Ghost Town? hey, so we are up here in Maggie Valley, NC. as we are driving around i see that unfortunately Ghost Town in the Sky is closed. I havent been there since i was a little kid, and dont remember much. The sight of the coaster on the side of the mountain is awesome though. Anyone ever ridden it? How is it? from the ground it doesnt look like it does much. id hesitate to call it a kiddie coaster given its location though. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Dec 28 07:12:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43845 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 15:12:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2007 15:12:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.132) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2007 15:12:29 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 15:12:29 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 15:12:28 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.86] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 15:12:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:12:28 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.132 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: NEWS: Big One rollercoaster set for makeover? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=kvTxxyuUvGmePuX1b2MxQAI0DTHkjFtxWNLc9LK31qsxGsU X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Mike, "A cenotaph is a tomb or a monument erected in honour of a person or group of persons whose remains are elsewhere." In this case it's the war veteran's memorial. -Alan --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Gallagher" wrote: > > will form part of the resort's showcase extravaganza culminating in > > the re-dedication of the refurbished Promenade cenotaph.=20 >=20 > Many people have told me over the years that I sound like I have a=20=20 > British accent. Since I've never been out of the USA except to Canada=20 > as a 5-6 year old, my theory is that I picked up vocal inflections from=20 > listening to(and "singing" along to) so much British music in the=20 > 80's..Joe Jackson, Police, Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, etc....but all that=20 > notwithstanding, I haven't a bloody notion of what the word "cenotaph"=20 > means. I could look it up, but it would mean more if someone on this=20 > forum could shed some light..whatever it is, it is in an amusement=20 > park, after all.=20=20=20 >=20 > Mike From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Dec 28 07:44:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 33431 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 15:44:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2007 15:44:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n50a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.144) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2007 15:44:18 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n50.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 15:44:18 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 15:44:18 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 15:44:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:44:16 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.144 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?NEWS:_Proposed_Bible_Park_could_raise_money_=97_and_concerns?= X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=ZD-EJG96qWViRqnCJjPA4dnMO_FMS39LSpHHhKYTXZKAX5E X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 12/27/07 The Daily News Journal The Tennessean http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20071227/NEWS06/7122= 7028 By Turner Hutchens & Scott Broden BLACKMAN, TN -- Bible Park USA =97 one of Rutherford County's most talked about and controversial stories in 2007 =97 will stay top of mind in 2008. A spokesperson for developers of the proposed Bible-story theme park in the Blackman community said Monday that efforts to make the project a reality will continue, beginning with renewed public outreach. "The project is moving forward in the new year, and as the project moves forward, there will be multiple, large-scale public meetings," said Terri Sterling, spokeswoman for the developers. The meetings will be in the form of an open house, with the development team for the theme park setting up displays and giving presentations on plans for the park, Sterling said. "That way we can hear what people think and what their questions are, and they can hear what our plans are," she said. Opponents of the plan, though, aren't likely to be dissuaded easily. "I don't really expect anything different," said John L. Batey, an area farmer who helped organize a petition drive against the park last summer. "They've been trying to get everything together to present to the county, but it's nothing we haven't heard before." Batey said the fight will continue. Developers, Armon Bar-Tur, of the New York City area, and Ronen Paldi, of Portland, OR. =97 both of SafeHarbor Holding LLC =97 introduced the idea for Bible Park USA last April at Smyrna Town Centre before a room packed with many government and business leaders representing Rutherford County and its cities. The park is planned as a non-evangelical, non-denominational family-friendly theme park depicting Bible stories, according to a fact sheet on the project issued by developers. The "edutainment" experience, combining education and entertainment, will offer visualiztions of the history of the Bible, as well as the history and archaeology of the period. The park will not attempt to promote specific religious beliefs of any kind, the fact sheet states. The proposal calls for locating the $150-$200 million park on 200 acres west of I-24 in the Blackman community. Developers have identified using Manson Court off Manson Pike as the primary entrance and Florence Road as a secondary service entrance. The park, developers said, would hire 200-300 full-time employees and 500-1,200 seasonal workers. Business leaders involved with the Rutherford County Chamber of Commerce see the park as a way to bring many tourists here, benefiting the local economy. The land could otherwise be developed for new homes, which could put more demands on the county for new schools, roads and other services. Developers have said they will use landscaping buffers around the property to minimize any effects on neighbors. Many residents in the area have been adamant in their opposition to the theme park, leading to the formation of a grass-roots effort to kill the idea. Residents have garnered petitions against the park, posted "No Theme Park" signs in their yards, produced T-shirts proclaiming their stance, launched Web sites in opposition to the park and hounded county and state officials in efforts to prevent the park from progressing. From the outset, skepticism has persisted about the nature of the park, the location of the park and the means by which developers hope to pay for its construction. Residents contend the park will lead to increased traffic and a drop in property values. After 8 months, little has happened to dissuade those concerns, Batey said. "In 4 months, it'll be 12 months since this came up," said Batey. "I don't think people in the area have been sold on the idea since then and they are still opposed to it. "This is a residential community." He said he doesn't expect developers to have anything that will convince him otherwise. "We've listened to them before," he said. "There are still a lot of unanswered questions, a lot of gray areas." A time frame for holding the meetings hasn't been finalized, but the plan is to have 3 meetings =97 in Smyrna, La Vergne and Murfreesboro =97 so there will be multiple opportunities for people to attend, Sterling said. In addition to seeking land use plans, the developers hope the County Commission will approve the land as a tourism development zone. Such a zone would allow some of the taxes generated as a result of the theme park to be used to pay off debt accrued in building the proposed park. The ability to establish such tourism development zones was created by the state Legislature earlier this year. The land where developers are considering building Bible Park USA is currently zoned for single-family residential development =97 as is most of the county outside the municipalities. To locate a theme park on the property, rezoning would be required at the county level, though no application for such a rezoning had been made as of last week. Developers could either ask the county to rezone the land for commercial use and request a special use permit for an amusement park, or request the entire piece of land be zoned as a planned unit development, under which the developer would have to submit a comprehensive plan for the property and how it would be used, according to Rutherford County Planning Director Doug Demosi. Regardless of which track developers choose, they would first have to submit a request for rezoning to the planning department, he said. That request would go first to the Future Development Committee (FDC) and would have to be turned in by a due date, generally a few weeks before the FDC's meeting. The committee normally meets on the first Thursday of the month. After the FDC, the request would be passed to the Rutherford County Regional Planning Commission, and then to the Rutherford County Commission for final approval. The FDC and the Rutherford County Regional Planning Commission are recommending bodies only, meaning the final say rests with the full County Commission. The process usually takes about 3 months, when everything goes smoothly, Demosi said. ------------ Copyright =A9 2007, tennessean.com From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Dec 28 08:01:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94860 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 16:01:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2007 16:01:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n49a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.143) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2007 16:01:42 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n49.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 16:01:42 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 16:01:42 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 16:01:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:01:39 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Vallejo theme park learned lesson from '98 tiger mauling X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=6POfQioFeQWPblNUypZ1AMBiCvgYECUpJlWNzykE55pl3DY X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 12/27/2007 Contra Costa Times http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_7819909?source=3Drss&nclick_check=3D1 By Rich Freedman VALLEJO, CA -- In the summer of 1998, a 340-pound Bengal tiger at Marine World mauled a San Jose woman during a photo session. The 45-y.o. woman recovered, and the $250 chance to cozy up to a big cat was eliminated. No attacks on the public have occurred since at the Vallejo theme park, now called Six Flags Discovery Kingdom (6FDD). Nancy Chan, 6FDD's public relations director, said it does its best to keep it that way. "We follow strict protocols to ensure the safety of our guests, our staff and our animals," Chan, said a day after a teenager was killed and 2 others were seriously injured in a tiger attack at the San Francisco Zoo. Chan, who came to 6FDD after a stint at the San Francisco Zoo, called the mauling "a sensitive issue." "We prefer not to have media make comparisons" between the parks, she said. "I can tell you, though, we have 9 tigers and that they are housed off-exhibit except for being rotated to public viewing where the cats can exercise." "Precautionary measures are always taken when working with the big cats," she said. Even though tigers at 6FDD are trained, "a tiger is a wild animal and (has) instincts that are consistent with being a large predator," Chan said. "You would never want to put your guard down even as a trainer who has hand-raised them from just a few weeks old." The 6FDD tiger public viewing area "was developed keeping in mind the safety of the guests, as there is not only a very high wall but a railing that separates the public," Chan said. "We also have safari guides on hand during operating hours at the exhibit." 6FDD's area that showcases the tigers is closed to the public and won't reopen until March 8. -------------- Copyright 2007 Contra Costa Times Newspapers From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Dec 28 08:07:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 16223 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 16:07:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2007 16:07:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n48a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.142) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2007 16:07:54 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n48.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 16:07:54 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 16:07:54 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.92] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Dec 2007 16:07:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:07:52 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.142 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Legoland makes bid for Lee's Summit X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=TMreMmkFtOdaUaX8nz5NK0RfTrAa4jUyJoCnQ0EjU2tzAM0 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 December 27, 2007 Lee's Summit Journal http://www.lsjournal.com/articles/2007/12/28/news/02lego.txt LEE'S SUMMIT, MO -- For the past year, the city has been buzzing with talks of a Legoland theme park coming to Lee's Summit. RED Development proposed the 100-acre theme park in January. The project was originally proposed to be built at I-470 and US-50. But after hearing several complaints from residents and councilmembers that the location was too close to the center of the city, RED began considering other locations, such as land at M-291 and US-50. To come to Lee's Summit, Legoland is asking for $172.5 million to be paid through tax increment financing, according to the April 16, 2007 city staff report. More funding was hoped to be granted at the state level; however, the Missouri General Assembly turned the request down, as did the Missouri Department of Economic Development. However, RED spokesperson Dave Claflin has maintained the position that these decisions at the state level are not the final determination and the company continues to look at other funding options. The Legoland theme park would include a 250-room hotel, a 25,000-sq-ft aquarium and up to 100,000 sq-ft of shops and restaurants in addition to the park's 50 rides, shows and other attractions. If Legoland is built in Lee's Summit, it would be the 2nd Legoland in the U.S. The first U.S. Legoland opened in San Diego in 1999. According to a constituent survey done by Rep. Jeff Grisamore, R-Lee's Summit, 62.5% of constituents who answered the survey strongly oppose the state of Missouri or the city of Lee's Summit approving tax increment financing for the construction of Legoland in Lee's Summit. Since MODESA denied RED's request to determine property at M-291 and US-50 "at or near" downtown, there has not been much action one way or the other on the proposed theme park's future in Lee's Summit. ------------ Copyright =A9 2007 =96 Lee's Summit Journal From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Fri Dec 28 14:21:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 2602 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 22:21:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2007 22:21:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.55) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Dec 2007 22:21:50 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 81874 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Dec 2007 22:21:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: QaONLMoVM1lLTouoYKS11zK2m..s1Q7vjlb3BHUCbdeu6JCXA6XrmGFC2efLGzS9KK84DU.1b2vdONV0qoA57QcS.kIez.CyY8pZk0ezNEWGoGWp5L4dwuhFdC6hOyS65p44KfvK_qYlKg-- X-Received: from [72.70.241.148] by web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:21:43 PST Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:21:43 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1198829846.1126.74101.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <898061.79686.qm@web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.55 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: NEWS: Sky's the limit at the Funderland rollercoaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=H3PxhLY1nN3vOlxNYTwXHOLh3601EicGEcIkiAP1tld2JtNeOY2X X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I love the name of this park! > "It's a huge new rollercoaster and the biggest machine of its kind ever in. She's a looping rollercoaster, formidable!" < Ever in...what? In the park? The pic is nice. Which Schwartzkopf is this? Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dougjnelson@gmail.com Sat Dec 29 06:34:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: dougjnelson@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13384 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2007 14:34:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Dec 2007 14:34:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n15b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.119) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2007 14:34:07 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n15.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2007 14:34:04 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2007 14:34:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2007 14:34:04 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:34:01 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.119 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 68.119.231.37 From: "Doug Nelson" Subject: Santaland? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=261787472; y=7J96g3UStSbUO78hg9NxavwcTSNdi5knxMIqv-JWBD4vUP8AQMQa0tuFFw X-Yahoo-Profile: fluffythegod3000 our adventures in the mountains of NC continue as last night we found=20 Santaland. again, the park was closed, but we saw the Rudolph the Red=20 Nosed Reindeer coaster. again, looked like it was a bigger kiddie=20 coaster. anyone ridden this one either? I havent seen this park=20 mentioned much either. of course its in the middle of nowhere, so no=20 surprise its not exactly a coaster enthusiast destination.=20 From GaMndbndr@mindspring.com Sun Dec 30 05:46:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: GaMndbndr@mindspring.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 1122 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2007 13:46:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Dec 2007 13:46:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n3.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.130) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2007 13:46:14 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n3.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 13:46:13 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 13:46:13 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 13:46:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:46:13 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.130 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 75.91.114.100 From: "Robert" Subject: Re: Santaland? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=63385192; y=KFadBCe1RS8uTEsOzo4ETNOUWZjzJcL2gclHwifgHlJx8ruX X-Yahoo-Profile: gamndbndr --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Nelson" wrote: > > our adventures in the mountains of NC continue as last night we found=20 > Santaland. again, the park was closed, but we saw the Rudolph the Red=20 > Nosed Reindeer coaster. again, looked like it was a bigger kiddie=20 > coaster. anyone ridden this one either? I havent seen this park=20 > mentioned much either. of course its in the middle of nowhere, so no=20 > surprise its not exactly a coaster enthusiast destination. > It's a double helix Zamperla powered coaster, really nothing special other than the reindeer theming. With the re-emergence of Ghost Town in the Sky more people will drive by this park on their way to Harrahs/Cherokee/Pigeon Forge, but Santaland is mostly a kiddie park with a petting zoo and some small rides. From munkye1972@yahoo.com Sun Dec 30 06:02:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: munkye1972@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18806 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2007 14:02:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Dec 2007 14:02:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n12b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.110) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2007 14:02:38 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n12.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 14:02:38 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 14:02:38 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.197] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 14:02:38 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:02:38 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <898061.79686.qm@web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.110 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.1.202.170 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: NEWS: Sky's the limit at the Funderland rollercoaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=124743306; y=Hwkz44IqlafsJdE5wnnmS2U8rbYqyHtwqjP4prr-X4EkbbL9yA X-Yahoo-Profile: munkye1972 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, Jay Ducharme=20 wrote: > >=20 > I love the name of this park! >=20 > > "It's a huge new rollercoaster and the biggest machine of its=20 kind ever in. She's a looping rollercoaster, formidable!" < >=20 > Ever in...what? In the park? >=20 > The pic is nice. Which Schwartzkopf is this? >=20 > Jay Although the stats in the story are a bit off, I'm guessing this is a=20 Looping Star. It fits the bill in many ways. Portable, single loop,=20 and here's the stats for comparison:=20 'Official' Story Length 1942 feet 2000 feet Height 80'5" 85 feet Speed 47.8 mph 50 mph (A Silver Arrow is actually even smaller than a Looping Star.) Chris From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Dec 30 08:31:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 20135 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2007 16:31:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Dec 2007 16:31:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.246) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2007 16:31:02 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by n20.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 16:31:02 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 16:31:02 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 16:31:00 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.246 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Power cut strands six in rollercoaster thriller X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=R4jhgkeGa-ddDkbtHAn-XGpAtcxxw8RIgD0ggfPpqOZjQT4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 December 29, 2007 The New Zealand Herald http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=3D2&objectid=3D10484620 MELBOURNE, VICTORIS, AU -- 6 people were rescued from a 30-mtr-high thrill ride at Melbourne's Luna Park that stalled during a power blackout, while a nearby 4-storey building caught fire from a short circuit. Chaotic scenes developed at St Kilda's entertainment hub late last night as people were stuck on the Mad Mouse rollercoaster, while 4th-floor residents yelled for help from a dangerous inferno. Dozens of emergency services crews converged on the fun park to pluck the frightened revellers from the ride, with the last 2 stranded for about 2 hours, a Metropolitan Fire Brigade (MFB) spokesman said. An elevated platform was used to rescue the revellers, who were stuck on the ride when the blackout wiped out power from Malvern to St Kilda. "There was an overuse of air-conditioners which caused the blackout," Melbourne Fire Brigade (MFB) Commander Terry Kimpton said. As rescue crews freed the Mad Mouse riders, they noticed smoke from a neighbouring building - the local RSL in Ackland Street, Kimpton said. "The fire was coming from the pokies area, where there was an electrical short-circuit, caused by the power (after returning to normal)," he said. "A plastic sign had caught fire and it spread rapidly in the building." 2 RSL staff members fled the building, calling for help, Kimpton said. About 10 residents were stranded on the 4th floor as the flames licked closer to their units. "A man in his 70s was yelling and calling for help," Kimpton said. While a ladder was sent up to rescue the man, all the residents escaped down an internal staircase, Kimpton said. No one was hurt amid the chaos, but thick smoke engulfed the lively St Kilda area, packed with patrons and revellers. Kimpton said the Mad Mouse riders were calm as rescue crews told them how they would be saved. "The people who were rescued were pretty cool and collected during the rescue," he said. Police were called in to manage the traffic chaos. "There are traffic lights out all over the place," Metropolitan Ambulance Service (MAS) spokesman Ray Rowe said. "All the power has gone out ... there are about 8 people 30 meters up on the ride." In 2005, 5 children and an adult were stranded on the Mad Mouse for about 2 hours. Luna Park management did not take calls last night. CitiPower & Powercor Australia spokesman Hugo Armstrong said about 5,000 customers in the areas of St Kilda, St Kilda West, Balaclava and Melbourne's St Kilda Road lost supply about 10.15pm local time (00.15 NZDT) last night. Armstrong said safety protection equipment at CitiPower's St Kilda substation came into operation in response to an unknown fault. "Crews were immediately despatched and power was progressively restored from 11.10pm, with the last customers back on supply at about 11.30pm," he said. "The root cause of the fault has not yet been identified, but with power now entirely restored, a full investigation is under way." Armstrong said CitiPower apologised to customers for the inconvenience caused by the fault. ------------ Copyright =A92007, APN Holdings NZ Limited From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Dec 30 09:35:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 2765 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2007 17:35:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Dec 2007 17:35:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n49a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.143) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2007 17:35:09 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n49.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 17:35:09 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 17:35:09 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 17:35:09 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:35:09 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: OT: New Years? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=QjjcfA3kMmLpY3PaTqgUo7XQnJP9QjckyujCZoKxuaQEU_M X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 So, any big plans out there for New Years? I'm not talking about the for the entire year, just for the Holiday. A friend rented out the Albuquerque Square Dance Center for an evening of dancing: Square, Country & Line. Other than that, we'll be home early. -Alan From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Sun Dec 30 12:22:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 92892 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2007 20:22:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Dec 2007 20:22:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n28a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.246) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2007 20:22:31 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n28.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 20:22:31 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 20:22:31 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.75] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Dec 2007 20:22:31 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:22:31 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.246 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 138.89.128.156 From: "Mike Gallagher" Subject: Re: OT: New Years? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=Ye6P9IggnYklDen8sQxL2own_DXpTKHk2-tFZfOoWmjVhStSXz_A X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 Unless I get a better offer today or tomorrow, I'll be spending part of=20 New Years Eve(if I can stay awake) and part of New Years Day with four=20 of my oldest and dearest friends..people who always make me=20 laugh...Ralph, Alice, Ed,and Trixie. We'll mambo,we'll roller-skate, we'll brive dusses, we'll core apples,=20 we'll shoot pool..good times, man. Happy New Year, everyone! Mike=20 From josh.wozny@gmail.com Sun Dec 30 12:44:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59252 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2007 20:44:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Dec 2007 20:44:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.178) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2007 20:44:13 -0000 X-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id h31so659873pyc.23 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:44:12 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.115.4 with SMTP id s4mr38088qbm.47.1199047452259; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:44:12 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.135.14 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:44:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0712301244i557941f3lb7862b0db1c50d59@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:44:12 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.178 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: OT: New Years? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=UvZ-3g6g6r453GYkaeqfRRuSITqdhS2vIu8d2lFIAEJMCZWpYw X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm working all weekend 7PM - 7AM at the hospital, including New Year's Eve. I'm tired, I'm cranky and I'm run down because I'm going on day 3 of this mess, and then I go back to 2nd shift on Wednesday for the rest of the week. :) If you can't tell, I'm not very happy about this. :) Josh On Dec 30, 2007 3:22 PM, Mike Gallagher wrote: > Unless I get a better offer today or tomorrow, I'll be spending part of > New Years Eve(if I can stay awake) and part of New Years Day with four > of my oldest and dearest friends..people who always make me > laugh...Ralph, Alice, Ed,and Trixie. > > We'll mambo,we'll roller-skate, we'll brive dusses, we'll core apples, > we'll shoot pool..good times, man. > > Happy New Year, everyone! > > Mike > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thunder7nyfl@yahoo.com Sun Dec 30 18:40:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: thunder7nyfl@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78624 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2007 02:40:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Dec 2007 02:40:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n8a.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com) (217.146.183.156) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2007 02:40:52 -0000 X-Received: from [217.12.4.215] by n8.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2007 02:40:51 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by t2.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2007 02:40:50 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.165] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2007 02:40:50 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp500.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2007 02:40:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 451503.85040.bm@omp500.mail.sp1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 12942 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Dec 2007 02:40:50 -0000 X-Received: from [70.127.135.104] by web45108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:40:50 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.158.1 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:40:50 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <293784.88640.qm@web45108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 217.146.183.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: THUNDER Reply-To: THUNDER Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: OT: New Years? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=173049580; y=Cx7dCa_2Iaic3j60ANIy5gDXDitTTqcq56aYpyYwzmb2w5-X1Gx- X-Yahoo-Profile: thunder7nyfl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm contemplating doing something or just staying in for the night. I just got back from visiting family and friends in Houston, and am feeling worn down. It depends on how I feel tomorrow night. Joe ----- Original Message ---- From: Josh W To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:44:12 PM Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: OT: New Years? I'm working all weekend 7PM - 7AM at the hospital, including New Year's Eve. I'm tired, I'm cranky and I'm run down because I'm going on day 3 of this mess, and then I go back to 2nd shift on Wednesday for the rest of the week. :) If you can't tell, I'm not very happy about this. :) Josh On Dec 30, 2007 3:22 PM, Mike Gallagher wrote: > Unless I get a better offer today or tomorrow, I'll be spending part of > New Years Eve(if I can stay awake) and part of New Years Day with four > of my oldest and dearest friends..people who always make me > laugh...Ralph, Alice, Ed,and Trixie. > > We'll mambo,we'll roller-skate, we'll brive dusses, we'll core apples, > we'll shoot pool..good times, man. > > Happy New Year, everyone! > > Mike > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From natekohlrusch@gmail.com Sun Dec 30 23:15:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: natekohlrusch@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 34778 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2007 07:14:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Dec 2007 07:14:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO rv-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.198.185) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2007 07:14:57 -0000 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c27so3174529rvf.10 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:14:56 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.20.7 with SMTP id x7mr6182737rvi.82.1199085296051; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:14:56 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.88.17 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:14:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:14:56 -0600 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <293784.88640.qm@web45108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <293784.88640.qm@web45108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.85.198.185 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Nate Kohlrusch" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: OT: New Years? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252692647; y=ll_-gj69uzT5KWX0Ic0coyvItfzh1md_mb4LAqK-ObZSh5mLgminZgo X-Yahoo-Profile: coasterdude318 Partying until the wee hours of the morning in Chicago. Those of you who know me aren't surprised, I'm sure... :) -Nate From m.e.cowan@gmail.com Mon Dec 31 06:18:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: m.e.cowan@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 72736 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2007 14:18:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Dec 2007 14:18:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.168) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2007 14:18:11 -0000 X-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 17so2174046ugm.42 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.251.3 with SMTP id y3mr11715464ugh.88.1199110690463; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.245.17 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ab4641f0712310618w99e8802s87431334fd3f912a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:18:10 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <293784.88640.qm@web45108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 66.249.92.168 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Michael Cowan" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: OT: New Years? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=284040117; y=TW5MiU_UkyAdgkM4_hVvbsLZLsUcD1NaAzIevIClTkscI6c X-Yahoo-Profile: mike_ska I got reservations for my girlfriend and I at a really nice restaurant in Hartford, Peppercorn's Grille. And then after that I think we're just going back to my house and hopefully my dad will be out for the night. We'll probably play board games and drink wine all night. I just hope I'm getting out of work around 1 like the rumors floating around the office have been saying. -Mikeska From munkye1972@yahoo.com Mon Dec 31 07:58:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: munkye1972@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 33334 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2007 15:58:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Dec 2007 15:58:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n16b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.122) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2007 15:58:46 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n16.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2007 15:58:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2007 15:58:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Dec 2007 15:58:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:58:45 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.122 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 24.1.202.170 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: OT: New Years? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=124743306; y=d6Mb9eO3ylRuG8eu-pfZs_issyoUWI0PJSfVW9AtoCuqckpNTQ X-Yahoo-Profile: munkye1972 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Nate Kohlrusch"=20 wrote: > > Partying until the wee hours of the morning in Chicago. >=20 > Those of you who know me aren't surprised, I'm sure... :) >=20 > -Nate Chicago, What?=20 Why haven't we looked each other up yet? Chris From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Mon Dec 31 14:41:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 24025 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2007 22:40:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Dec 2007 22:40:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.60) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2007 22:40:57 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 57598 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Dec 2007 22:40:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hR1bwIQVM1kjQSlQEiwT5m1ZQDjSGSlVdT5tW7ayOotpjf3kM8n6swmSoHaLZCjp_8nSMOfbyD98jkaI0kAyMwDtMQj.UtfelhHcKmNpIuPGCdGuCeQ- X-Received: from [72.70.241.148] by web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:40:57 PST Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:40:57 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1199088995.2182.9638.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <325754.57013.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.60 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: OT: New Years? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=bN6kKM7QrdIFyKVA7T7MP71MrGvkisjq6wz7CkIMG02nhrXiaTuX X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was at the Holyoke Merry-Go-Round today for their annual First Night Junior celebration. There was a good crowd and lots to do, from magicians and balloon scuptures to musical performances for kids. BTW, one thing I'm looking forward to in 2008 is the return of our Artizan band organ, which is getting its first ground-up restoration in a quarter century. Amazingly, it was still playing fine (though occasionally missing notes). But it needed a bit of TLC. When we get it back, it will have a MIDI controller grafted onto it. Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Wed Jan 02 06:58:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 72479 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2008 14:58:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Jan 2008 14:58:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.62) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Jan 2008 14:58:56 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 36545 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jan 2008 14:58:56 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: QOc4my8VM1nhKp_iNzRLff1fdK_vIxa1bVmujJM4_WBpgogbxw3vzXZqz0J3BuVPesGklDwJi9rLapDeeFcLqg.T6zFHTKpVd5DovV0EwciXzXpDOaDMiPbUI_3d1Q-- X-Received: from [72.70.241.148] by web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 06:58:56 PST Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 06:58:56 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk , Dave Anderson , Rich Boehmer , gazette@wnycc.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <431018.34549.qm@web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.62 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: TECH: Coaster Automated Transport System X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=V5RySbitLfrYDIPUmpTP8c52AZJf0_781nA0B2G8yAE4XhGxyp2Q X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's a novel way to provide mass transit. It's being tested out in Europe. I wouldn't mind getting to work this way: Jay --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From natekohlrusch@gmail.com Wed Jan 02 07:05:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: natekohlrusch@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3449 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2008 15:05:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Jan 2008 15:05:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO rv-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.198.185) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Jan 2008 15:05:56 -0000 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c24so4139598rvf.37 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:05:55 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.144.4 with SMTP id r4mr7406393rvd.15.1199286355509; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:05:55 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.88.17 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jan 2008 07:05:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 09:05:55 -0600 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Originating-IP: 209.85.198.185 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Nate Kohlrusch" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: OT: New Years? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252692647; y=vrgvJ8dUL0ZChstuYIqkQuuARz6m3TIO3QMu_AeCh1peddBC5UKfF7Y X-Yahoo-Profile: coasterdude318 > > Partying until the wee hours of the morning in Chicago. > Chicago, What? > > Why haven't we looked each other up yet? I only got to Great America once this year, and didn't really do any other amusement park-related travel this year. I do plan to hit IB and Holliwood Nights next May though... -Nate From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 03 07:55:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 84981 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 15:55:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 15:55:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n49b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.163) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 15:55:36 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n49.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 15:55:36 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 15:55:36 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.197] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 15:55:36 -0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:55:36 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.163 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Disneyland hits capacity and stops sales X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=fp-PVfwpfzMmAbUb9Zg8XGyYrMoSpwQmJ7N7GGrU8TY5ato X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 December 28th, 2007 The Orange County Register http://ocresort.freedomblogging.com/2007/12/28/disneyland-hits-capacity-and= -stops-sales/ By Sarah Tully ANAHEIM, CA -- The week between Christmas and New Year's Day traditionally is the busiest of the year for Disneyland. And this week is no different. At least 3 times this week, DL had to stop letting new visitors in because too many people were crowding the park. This afternoon, electronic readers on roads in the DL area warned visitors that tickets were sold out for the day. When that happens, DL has to turn people away, sending them to the sister park at Disney's California Adventure or elsewhere. "This is the time of year we are extra popular," said Rob Doughty, a DL spokesman. "We get to a point, to protect the guest experience, we will divert people to go to DCA." The park is expected to stay crowded through Tuesday. Doughty suggests that guests arrive early before noon so they can get in. Hours are 8a.m. to midnight Saturday, Sunday & Tuesday. Overnight on Monday - New Year's Eve - the park will stay open from 8a.m. to 2a.m. ------------- Copyright 2007 The Orange County Register From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 03 08:02:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59568 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 16:02:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 16:02:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.156) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 16:02:26 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 16:02:26 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 16:02:26 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.77] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 16:02:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:02:26 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Vietnamese theme park plans unveiled X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=o8MLftJXJOx5nDmekecWamuiju3BZ5seYj4NRnM7gTed98U X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 02/01/08 Amusement Trades Limited http://www.ateonline.co.uk/60/74/79/articles/13886.php VUNG TAU, VIETNAM -- The Vietnamese government has received plans for a new theme park project in Vung Tau Bau Trung, modelled on Disneyland. The 200-hectare development, launched by the Good Choice Imports-Exports & Investments, will cost over VND1.3 billion and will be partially operational by 2010 if plans are approved. A spokesperson for Good Choice said their ambition was to revitalise the tourism industry in Vung Tau. "It has many advantages in terms of location, scenery, beaches and environment but has been neglected by domestic and foreign tourists in recent years due to a lack of attractive tourist products and recreational facilities," he said. ------------- =A9 2007 Amusement Trades Limited From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 03 08:08:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 70496 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 16:08:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 16:08:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n35a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.129) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 16:08:43 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n35.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 16:08:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 16:08:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 16:08:43 -0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:08:40 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.129 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=lQDYp2oXYUQO5ahkesXiSumDbNUmemuKWueR6ghfYCvWojA X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 3rd, 2008 ThrillNetwork http://www.thrillnetwork.com/stories_view.php/2123/top_gun_borg_names_carow= inds.html CHARLOTTE, NC -- With the purchase of the former Paramount Parks by Cedar Fair, park patrons knew that some things would eventually get a makeover. Carowinds website has now revealed the new names for 2 of the most popular coasters at Carowinds, located in Charlotte, NC. Top Gun - The Jet Coaster will now be known as "Flight Deck" and Borg Assimilator will now be called "Nighthawk". The other coasters and rides at the park seem to be keeping their current names. For more information visit Carowinds http://www1.cedarfair.com/carowinds/ ----------- =A9 2001-2007 ThrillNetwork, LLC. Copyright 2008 Cedar Fair Entertainment Company From natekohlrusch@gmail.com Thu Jan 03 08:15:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: natekohlrusch@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 8843 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 16:15:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 16:15:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO nz-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.162.230) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 16:15:59 -0000 X-Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id j2so1125313nzf.12 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:15:59 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.44.11 with SMTP id r11mr4591677wfr.102.1199376958579; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:15:58 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.141.15 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 08:15:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:15:58 -0600 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Originating-IP: 64.233.162.230 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Nate Kohlrusch" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252692647; y=zItjdIpcTAsnZ-0bdQOsQtgySPX8p8pJoWupzG3z7jnsZA-eFNxfqvg X-Yahoo-Profile: coasterdude318 > Top Gun - The Jet Coaster will now be known as "Flight Deck" and Borg > Assimilator will now be called "Nighthawk". Flight Deck? What a horrible, horrible name. Anyone know what they're doing with that big sphere outside Borg Assimilator? Staying or going? -Nate From lance@screamscape.com Thu Jan 03 08:51:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 19560 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 16:51:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 16:51:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta14.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 16:51:21 -0000 X-Received: from dm07.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta14.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1321243704 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 08:51:19 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm07 X-Received: by dm07.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id dm07.476ab11c.773c0e for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 08:51:18 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHfRKG5Gk6CwIAAAAB,c001f18d7a1bc4efa387c991e0f4ec4c Message-ID: <80EDFAEBDDF14706AF9B34A525423E32@ScreamscapeHP> To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:51:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:2:2:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=vHX-Kqf5P5uA3yNuvLMQgfrjaQgDjjbx55cMIuakz0gTCE6RiUSBDZrQEw X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Flight Deck?! That's got to be the worst name of all time...=20 Flight Deck...=20 I just can't wrap my head around it. Keep in mind this change will also lik= ely take place to the Top Gun coasters at California's Great America, Kings= Island and Canada's Wonderland as well, even though they are all entirely = different rides. While we're at it can they please rename the nearby bathro= oms as the Poop Deck? Why not go with a faux Top Gun style theme with a better name like Fightert= own USA or something... another old nickname for the Top Gun school when it= was in Miramar, or go with an "Area 51" top secret airfield theme...=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alan=20 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:08 AM Subject: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Caro= winds Jan. 3rd, 2008 ThrillNetwork http://www.thrillnetwork.com/stories_view.php/2123/top_gun_borg_names_car= owinds.html CHARLOTTE, NC -- With the purchase of the former Paramount Parks by Cedar Fair, park patrons knew that some things would eventually get a makeover. Carowinds website has now revealed the new names for 2 of the most popular coasters at Carowinds, located in Charlotte, NC. Top Gun - The Jet Coaster will now be known as "Flight Deck" and Borg Assimilator will now be called "Nighthawk". The other coasters and rides at the park seem to be keeping their current names. For more information visit Carowinds http://www1.cedarfair.com/carowinds/ ----------- =A9 2001-2007 ThrillNetwork, LLC. Copyright 2008 Cedar Fair Entertainment Company =20=20=20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From coastermanokc@cox.net Thu Jan 03 09:22:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: coastermanokc@cox.net X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 69698 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 17:22:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 17:22:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO eastrmmtao106.cox.net) (68.230.240.48) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 17:22:10 -0000 X-Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080103172210.KFNH476.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:22:10 -0500 X-Received: from MYCOMPUTER ([68.229.223.145]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id YhMD1Y00P38qQsL0000000; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:21:14 -0500 To: References: <80EDFAEBDDF14706AF9B34A525423E32@ScreamscapeHP> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:22:08 -0600 Message-ID: <000f01c84e2d$2b780580$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <80EDFAEBDDF14706AF9B34A525423E32@ScreamscapeHP> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AchOKN8tg++F88KnSJqV+JLy0dsLOQAAY2cg X-Originating-IP: 68.230.240.48 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Michael" Subject: RE: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=272325397; y=Ab8KSBpmJZjh1bMV3tZtVbhaaU3DMudYhanB0bfKQOGpUNYPWHntDw X-Yahoo-Profile: coastermanokc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lance wrote X-Sender: natekohlrusch@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71431 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 17:33:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 17:33:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.228) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 17:33:34 -0000 X-Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s11so1521442wxc.17 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:33:34 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.109.16 with SMTP id h16mr4668430wfc.117.1199381613317; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:33:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.141.15 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:33:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:33:33 -0600 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <000f01c84e2d$2b780580$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80EDFAEBDDF14706AF9B34A525423E32@ScreamscapeHP> <000f01c84e2d$2b780580$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> X-Originating-IP: 66.249.82.228 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Nate Kohlrusch" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252692647; y=0IMVChs-z6igC6GSIr7VjEP3bFsd2rXqAvL9n6DNeI-qqT1nVhtvWHk X-Yahoo-Profile: coasterdude318 > Six flags also > has questionable names such as Evil Kenievil their soon to be WOODEN coaster > at SFStL Evel Knievel was a daredevil who performed dangerous stunts. I think that name fits a roller coaster just fine. > and at SFFT there is Poltergeist (a German name) in the 50s section > of the park. A Poltergeist is a type of ghost, and the word is often used in the English language. To board the ride you wind through a dilapidated (and seemingly haunted) house. Again, the themeing fits. > In the same section of the park is Scream (an S&S freefall > ride). Correct me if I am wrong but weren't the scream movies from the 90s. The S&S tower is not named after or themed to the Scream movies. -Nate From coastermanokc@cox.net Thu Jan 03 09:43:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: coastermanokc@cox.net X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 44684 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 17:43:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 17:43:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO eastrmmtao103.cox.net) (68.230.240.9) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 17:43:13 -0000 X-Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080103174313.ESYC24467.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:43:13 -0500 X-Received: from MYCOMPUTER ([68.229.223.145]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id YhXB1Y00E38qQsL0000000; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:31:12 -0500 To: References: <80EDFAEBDDF14706AF9B34A525423E32@ScreamscapeHP> <000f01c84e2d$2b780580$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:43:11 -0600 Message-ID: <001a01c84e30$1c2c4840$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AchOLsWOHrvpzJOSRVO3XuW0zkQpowAAIggg X-Originating-IP: 68.230.240.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Michael" Subject: RE: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=272325397; y=xJLPGn02FGuMjqGpH_W3FjBzkrcxUyQ2WeU48ml2fh5Ls_f_8y9Zzw X-Yahoo-Profile: coastermanokc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Evel Knievel was a daredevil who performed dangerous stunts. I think >that name fits a roller coaster just fine. I was referring to the fact that it is a wooden coaster they are using for the name. I think the name would be better suited for say a Vekoma motorbike coaster. >The S&S tower is not named after or themed to the Scream movies. Then what is it named after? Michael Lopez . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lance@screamscape.com Thu Jan 03 10:03:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 44238 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 18:03:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 18:03:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta14.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 18:03:42 -0000 X-Received: from sj1-dm04.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta14.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DE141D57 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:03:42 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: sj1-dm04 X-Received: by sj1-dm04.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id sj1-dm04.4774535f.387dd1 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:03:41 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHfSN9MCwhGwIAAAAB,8127925a9a8c1f46e0e0a6e46d939b8c Message-ID: <3CF632C2136B4D2C8C6C64A0BF89F2FE@ScreamscapeHP> To: References: <80EDFAEBDDF14706AF9B34A525423E32@ScreamscapeHP> <000f01c84e2d$2b780580$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> <001a01c84e30$1c2c4840$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> In-Reply-To: <001a01c84e30$1c2c4840$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:03:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=DMwdUsiUZAF5YSXA4XRBhXq9rGfD3YF_xE8njRchTEH37yR9vaenO0WtNg X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance >>The S&S tower is not named after or themed to the Scream movies. > >Then what is it named after? I think it's just themed as a 50's Drive-In that shows horror films. I think a similar theme is used at SFNE's Scream towers as well. Though that doesn't explain a bit about why they called the Medusa clone at SFMM "Scream". From natekohlrusch@gmail.com Thu Jan 03 10:12:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: natekohlrusch@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 35494 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 18:12:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 18:12:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO wr-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.184.236) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 18:12:26 -0000 X-Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c55so241114wra.0 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:12:23 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.88.20 with SMTP id l20mr4721149wfb.72.1199383942513; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:12:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.141.15 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:12:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:12:22 -0600 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <3CF632C2136B4D2C8C6C64A0BF89F2FE@ScreamscapeHP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80EDFAEBDDF14706AF9B34A525423E32@ScreamscapeHP> <000f01c84e2d$2b780580$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> <001a01c84e30$1c2c4840$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> <3CF632C2136B4D2C8C6C64A0BF89F2FE@ScreamscapeHP> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.184.236 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Nate Kohlrusch" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252692647; y=u4wYwBE5vTPD4hzYBU6SYF76DvPacwimR4rNXaxjgjjHGcyd_g9iwFk X-Yahoo-Profile: coasterdude318 >>Evel Knievel was a daredevil who performed dangerous stunts. I think >>that name fits a roller coaster just fine. > I was referring to the fact that it is a wooden coaster they are using for > the name. I think the name would be better suited for say a Vekoma motorbike > coaster. It probably would have, but since Six Flags isn't building a Vekoma motorbike, I don't think using the Evel Knievel name is problematic. > I think it's just themed as a 50's Drive-In that shows horror films. > I think a similar theme is used at SFNE's Scream towers as well. Exactly. > Though that doesn't explain a bit about why they called the Medusa clone at > SFMM "Scream". SFMM's Scream doesn't have a theme...it's just a name. http://www.rcdb.com/ig2169.htm?picture=23 > From adamnvillani@yahoo.com Thu Jan 03 11:46:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: adamnvillani@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 67284 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 19:46:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 19:46:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n25c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.216) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 19:46:29 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by n25.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 19:46:29 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.86] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2008 19:46:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:46:29 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3CF632C2136B4D2C8C6C64A0BF89F2FE@ScreamscapeHP> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.216 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 161.149.63.106 From: "adamnvillani" Subject: Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=145821173; y=atETsBcsR8sQUotWDdFbXNNZAc-gL_wfzLx4o_XpOShsBYRquwDm X-Yahoo-Profile: adamnvillani --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Lance" wrote: > Though that doesn't explain a bit about why they called the Medusa=20 clone at=20 > SFMM "Scream". This seems kinda obvious to me, but the idea is that you will scream on=20 the coaster. The word "Scream" has been around for a lot longer than=20 the movies. Not sure what the confusion is there. Adam http://blogbilongadam.blogspot.com From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Thu Jan 03 17:13:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 19917 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 01:13:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 01:13:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n35a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.129) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 01:13:14 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n35.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 01:13:14 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 01:13:13 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.73] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 01:13:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:13:11 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000f01c84e2d$2b780580$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.129 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 138.89.128.156 From: "Mike Gallagher" Subject: Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=20pexFAtcMMMd-k-ssVixgrZ62m3RWjo9w8Lva04YrZf0nitRgE3 X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 name that fits the section of the park it is in like the Cuchacabra=20 (sp?). Chupacabra. > However I do agree that Flight Deck is a bad uncreative name for a=20 roller > coaster. "FLIGHT DECK" is the name of a comic strip I like. Top Gun:The Jet=20 Coaster is my favorite coaster of it's type. I still wouldn't put the=20 two together. I like mayonnaise and I like peanut butter, but I=20 wouldn't eat them on the same sandwich. Mike >=20 >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Thu Jan 03 17:15:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17138 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 01:15:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 01:15:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.180) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 01:15:07 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 01:15:07 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 01:15:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.82] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 01:15:07 -0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:15:06 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <80EDFAEBDDF14706AF9B34A525423E32@ScreamscapeHP> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.180 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 138.89.128.156 From: "Mike Gallagher" Subject: Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=ZufcCetw2oG4MaULxMfEe32y8tKWDaPhSboAQ77xhZQSTyZW5504 X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 While we're at it can they please rename the nearby bathrooms as the=20 Poop Deck? >=20 Hee Hee... Mike From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Jan 04 07:24:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 32204 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 15:24:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 15:24:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.124) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 15:24:32 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n17.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:24:29 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:24:29 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.91] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:24:29 -0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:24:28 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.124 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Roller coaster makes unscheduled New Year stop X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=6aJ9my3vd9dunmvT0UQuAokaYvA9GcFT_H97sYjHYBY6Elc X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan 2, 2008 Reuters Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080102/od_nm/rollercoaster_dc_1 BEIJING, CHINA -- A roller coaster stalled at the top of a loop at China's biggest amusement park, leaving passengers stranded upside down, their legs pointed toward the sky. 18 passengers were left hanging for half an hour several meters above the park on New Year's Eve Monday in the eastern province of Anhui, the China Daily said. The passengers were riding the "Fireball" attraction at the Wuhu Fangte Amusement Park when the rollercoaster came to an abrupt halt. "Park officials and local authorities rescued the stranded passengers after about 30 minutes and 6 were rushed to hospital and treated for dizziness," Xinhua news agency said. Investigations revealed that strong headwind had triggered a mechanical fault, the agency said. ------------ Copyright =A9 2008 Reuters Limited Copyright =A9 2008 Yahoo! Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Jan 04 07:30:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40423 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 15:30:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 15:30:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.137) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 15:30:08 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:30:08 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:30:08 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:30:08 -0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:30:07 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: 13 injured in roller coaster mishap X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=Z_hYEQp2yNMH_OhBKiASnySx6rTW_vfeXd0yPHMRECBxIYU X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 2, 2008 The Japan Times http://search.japantimes.co.jp/rss/nn20080102a6.html KITAKYUSHU, FUKUOKA PREFECTURE, JP -- 13 visitors were injured Monday when the roller coaster they were riding at an amusement park in Kitakyushu, Fukuoka Prefecture, stopped abruptly, local police said. The 6-car Titan V roller coaster at the Space World amusement park stopped at around 1:40 p.m. as a safety system activated after a joint between the 3rd and 4th cars came off, investigators said. The injuries suffered by the visitors, who are mostly complaining of back pain or sickness, are not believed to be serious, they said. -------------- Copyrights 2008 The Japan Times Ltd. From gburnash@earthlink.net Fri Jan 04 07:34:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: gburnash@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42991 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 15:34:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 15:34:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (209.86.89.63) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 15:34:31 -0000 X-Received: from pool-71-122-138-187.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.122.138.187] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JAoZ2-0002Cs-Ao for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 10:34:28 -0500 Message-ID: <477E5170.3070401@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 10:32:00 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95f3a1acbbcf5638846e115e3e8cf45574bf435c0eb9d47850561ff51fa964bb05ab736f89188a6e26a6d2140cece9e9350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.89.63 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: george burnash Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=115345197; y=YrK5FhyBedkVCmOsZyWsq_Z55_wghzvh1ZhSYxk3FOZxvr4 X-Yahoo-Profile: gburnash Mike Gallagher wrote: > > > However I do agree that Flight Deck is a bad uncreative name for a > roller > > coaster. > > "FLIGHT DECK" is the name of a comic strip I like. Top Gun:The Jet > Coaster is my favorite coaster of it's type. I still wouldn't put the > two together. I like mayonnaise and I like peanut butter, but I > wouldn't eat them on the same sandwich. I dunno, I don't mind Flight Deck. I'll agree that it's not the most creative name in the world, and I can think of others that, in my opinion, might have worked better. But what they're naming it does have relevance to what it was called before. Personally I might have liked something named after one of the planes from the movie- e.g. Tomcat, or something else that sounds a little more exciting. But it's far from the worst name I've ever heard (such as the discussed Scream, or X, etc.) keep on ridin' George From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Jan 04 07:41:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 92022 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 15:41:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 15:41:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n24b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.235) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 15:41:26 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n24.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:41:26 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:41:26 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 15:41:26 -0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:41:24 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.235 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: OP-ED: Diving back in to some avoided attractions X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=p1bWmbgJd0NdGgEGEEQvyCIfEStDsIFcErOW8N9_d13QMCA X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 4, 2008 Orlando Sentinel http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/orl-bevil0408jan04,0,7621802.c= olumn?track=3Drss By Dewayne Bevil ORLANDO, FL -- Familiarity breeds habit. If you frequent a theme park enough, trends emerge. Maybe you always walk around Epcot's World Showcase in a counterclockwise fashion, or have a stingray tradition at SeaWorld, or you can't leave Islands of Adventure without spinning through the Cat in the Hat ride. Conversely, sometimes you swear off attractions. Recently, I revisited 7 features that I have avoided for months for various reasons, ranging from potential stomach upset to residing in the wrong demographic. *Doctor Doom's Fearfall at IOA. I tried this thrill ride twice when the park first opened. It doesn't look that harrowing, but my internal organs disagree. As I stood in the single-rider line at the base of the twin towers this week I felt anxiety more intense than before any roller coaster. You're strapped into the contraption, which vaults you up, up, up, and I know it's going to stop, but not before a freak-out moment. "I hate this thing," I hollered during the 2nd ascent while the 3-some from Boston College next to me yelled for more. It is a short ride, and for that I am unusually thankful. I was able to calm down enough to admire IOAs spread before my kicking feet. And the ride has good marks in the plus column, including the doors' super-villainous design that glares at you while waiting to take flight. *Twister ... Ride It Out at Universal Studios. The last time I went through this show, I had a personal disaster -- "Attack of the Killer Contact Lens" -- so that wasn't a fair experience. Both parts of the pre-show with Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton remain overly earnest, but I enjoyed the windy effects this time, especially the soaring cow. For those into false peril, the back row really rocks. *"Believe" at SeaWorld Orlando. This Shamu show takes the New Age cake. I'm all for a good back story, but this one is too precious for me. Bring out the whale and call it a day. I prefer the occasional "Shamu Rocks" show. *Rafiki's Planet Watch at Disney's Animal Kingdom. My one previous foray to this area was time-consuming, rocky and boring. I recall the train ride being extra rough and for little payoff. My recent trip was better. On the way to the outpost between Africa and Asia, you are able to see "backstage" areas -- or are those just built to look that way? Planet Watch is good for nature walking and animal interaction. I was happy to see prominent hand-washing stations at the petting area. The ride back is less scenic -- it's more foliage-in-your-face. One bonus is that only foldable strollers are allowed on the train. Translation: no Disney double-wides. *"Voyage of the Little Mermaid" at Disney-MGM Studios. My previous regard for this show was OK, but I'm not really the target audience and the line frequently seemed packed. But the show -- a mix of puppetry, people and projections -- is better than I remembered. (Sitting near the back of the house helps the overall illusion, I think.) I like the misty atmosphere, the big, bad Ursula, and the sudden, startling, now-she-has-fins, now-she-doesn't moment, even for adults. *"Reflections of China" at Epcot. I'm a fool for Circle-Vision 360, but I've hit the wall at the recently revamped O, Canada. The China film is fine; starting off with a Great Wall shot is a winner and sets visitors spinning from the top. Also worth a peak is the pre-show exhibit of "tomb warriors," downright educational. Visually spectacular is the ceiling. Look up as you enter the Temple of Heaven. *The Hall of Presidents at Magic Kingdom. The hall is a forgotten Disney classic -- open since the park debuted in 1971 -- tucked away in Liberty Square. The pre-show displays presidential paraphernalia, including Bill Clinton's saxophone, Abraham Lincoln's mailbox, a love letter from Harry S Truman to his wife and Richard Nixon's 8th-grade homework (an "autobiography"). The film inside is a shout-out to the Declaration of Independence and rights, although if I were from South Carolina, I wouldn't be comfortable during the Civil War segment. The sight of the Audio-Animatronic lineup of presidents is stirring. I felt as if we should be standing during "Hail to the Chief." I like watching the figures fidget and react to others. Even as a kid, I appreciated the way the presidents moved their heads to face the man listed during the roll call. Memorable to many people is when Lincoln stands to speak, but I am drawn more to his dialogue in the film during the Lincoln-Douglas debates. The subject is "all men are equal." Lincoln: "If that declaration is not the truth, let us get the statute book, in which we find it and tear it out! Who is so bold as to do it? If it is not true let us tear it out! [Others yell "No!"] Let us stick to it then, let us stand firmly by it then." Makes you want to caucus, doesn't it? ------------- Copyright =A9 2008, Orlando Sentinel From josh.wozny@gmail.com Fri Jan 04 10:14:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 85735 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 18:14:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 18:14:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.180) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 18:14:17 -0000 X-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v53so2578685pyh.33 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 10:14:17 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.214.2 with SMTP id r2mr35567708qbq.2.1199470456641; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 10:14:16 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.135.14 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 10:14:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0801041014o19133b10ydea0132f13a18c52@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 13:14:16 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <477E5170.3070401@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <477E5170.3070401@earthlink.net> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.180 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=fimZusy-1PFWI5veMILtoFJ4lg4pDj2lKDHO3GW_-UL5BBWLKg X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, CF already has rights to the name "Maverick" - if you reeeealllly want to stay movie related. ;) -Josh On Jan 4, 2008 10:32 AM, george burnash wrote: > Mike Gallagher wrote: > > > > > However I do agree that Flight Deck is a bad uncreative name for a > > roller > > > coaster. > > > > "FLIGHT DECK" is the name of a comic strip I like. Top Gun:The Jet > > Coaster is my favorite coaster of it's type. I still wouldn't put the > > two together. I like mayonnaise and I like peanut butter, but I > > wouldn't eat them on the same sandwich. > > I dunno, I don't mind Flight Deck. I'll agree that it's not the most > creative name in the world, and I can think of others that, in my > opinion, might have worked better. But what they're naming it does have > relevance to what it was called before. > > Personally I might have liked something named after one of the planes > from the movie- e.g. Tomcat, or something else that sounds a little more > exciting. But it's far from the worst name I've ever heard (such as the > discussed Scream, or X, etc.) > > keep on ridin' > George > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cameron@buzzneon.com Fri Jan 04 10:17:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: cameron@buzzneon.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 68228 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 18:17:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 18:17:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.9) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 18:17:53 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 6165 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 18:17:52 -0000 X-Received: from 74-94-116-170-chicago201-il.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (HELO [192.168.1.48]) (buzzneon@[74.94.116.170]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Jan 2008 18:17:52 -0000 Message-ID: <477E784D.2070806@buzzneon.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:17:49 -0600 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: <477E5170.3070401@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <477E5170.3070401@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Cameron Silver Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=54528050; y=dpV70hE-Dac4UDU2M1mpknKI4MaK98nNZiD3WjL8JbEnbpjY X-Yahoo-Profile: buzz_neon > exciting. But it's far from the worst name I've ever heard (such as the > discussed Scream, or X, etc.) Ok .. I'll grant you that X is a pretty uninspired name, but "Scream"? I actually think it's quite cool for a device that is supposed to elicit screams! Cameron. From lance@screamscape.com Fri Jan 04 11:48:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 77610 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 19:48:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 19:48:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta14.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 19:48:43 -0000 X-Received: from sj1-dm04.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta14.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976E341495 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:48:38 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: sj1-dm04 X-Received: by sj1-dm04.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id sj1-dm04.4774535f.43f696 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:47:51 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHfo1nR5znDQIAAAAB,d76d5305c1a846468f9eecfd089b0b61 Message-ID: To: References: <477E5170.3070401@earthlink.net> <76e1ec0a0801041014o19133b10ydea0132f13a18c52@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <76e1ec0a0801041014o19133b10ydea0132f13a18c52@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:48:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=ZQjKkOTioZWTFGNoR3JoTw_BOPkG8_X7CsBBElQNNvGgLxdQDJOybzd-2w X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit True... though they may run into a copyright problem by trying to use the name Maverick in a ride with a Top Gun style setting, even without using the name. I believe the big issue with copyright infringement is if they believe the issue to be serious enough to cause confusion about if the product is really connected to the copyright. Maverick would cause some confusion if it were really Top Gun or not I suppose, especially since the ride was Top Gun... ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh W To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds Hey, CF already has rights to the name "Maverick" - if you reeeealllly want to stay movie related. ;) -Josh On Jan 4, 2008 10:32 AM, george burnash wrote: > Mike Gallagher wrote: > > > > > However I do agree that Flight Deck is a bad uncreative name for a > > roller > > > coaster. > > > > "FLIGHT DECK" is the name of a comic strip I like. Top Gun:The Jet > > Coaster is my favorite coaster of it's type. I still wouldn't put the > > two together. I like mayonnaise and I like peanut butter, but I > > wouldn't eat them on the same sandwich. > > I dunno, I don't mind Flight Deck. I'll agree that it's not the most > creative name in the world, and I can think of others that, in my > opinion, might have worked better. But what they're naming it does have > relevance to what it was called before. > > Personally I might have liked something named after one of the planes > from the movie- e.g. Tomcat, or something else that sounds a little more > exciting. But it's far from the worst name I've ever heard (such as the > discussed Scream, or X, etc.) > > keep on ridin' > George > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tommytheduck@yahoo.com Fri Jan 04 15:08:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: tommytheduck@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60420 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 23:08:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 23:08:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n48a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.142) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 23:08:50 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n48.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 23:08:50 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 23:08:50 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.75] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jan 2008 23:08:50 -0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:08:49 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.142 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 64.233.202.90 From: "tommytheduck" Subject: Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64391012; y=U6QIa222e2KOD2O53QI76ZdhQ7XujORUuOyuCY2xUfHrrpzDlnIH X-Yahoo-Profile: tommytheduck Who cares? Top Gun is an old, played out movie that no one even cares=20 about anymore. While Top Gun is a great name for a ride, Maverick is=20 not. Why? Even if you've never seen Top Gun, you still know what it=20 means. But you won't know who Maverick is unless you have seen it.=20=20 Big tall rollercoasters are aimed at teens. "The movie keeps getting=20 older, but they stay the saaaaame age."=20=20 As for the name "Flight deck," eh... I would prefer if they used the=20 original term, but it's not P.C. anymore. I won't repeat it here to=20 risk offending anyone, but it contains the words "pit" and "cock." Not=20 nessecarilly in that order. Quackin' Chicken, -Brian F. From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Fri Jan 04 16:22:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18180 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2008 00:22:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2008 00:22:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.102.100) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2008 00:22:34 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n17.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 00:22:33 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 00:22:33 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 00:22:33 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:22:32 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.102.100 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 138.89.128.156 From: "Mike Gallagher" Subject: Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=-6_22GTdPDmvvYNvLyXcoEaaqMcgcAMsFGx0w8XaUKW1xfTAQ32p X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Lance" wrote: > > True... though they may run into a copyright problem by trying to use=20 the name Maverick in a ride with a Top Gun style setting, even without=20 using the name. I believe the big issue with copyright infringement is=20 if they believe the issue to be serious enough to cause confusion about=20 if the product is really connected to the copyright. >=20 > Maverick would cause some confusion if it were really Top Gun or not=20 I suppose, especially since the ride was Top Gun...=20 James Garner and Mel Gibson might get upset, too! Mike=20 From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Fri Jan 04 16:25:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 36448 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2008 00:25:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2008 00:25:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n4.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.131) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2008 00:25:54 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n4.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 00:25:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 00:25:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.73] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 00:25:53 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:25:53 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.131 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 138.89.128.156 From: "Mike Gallagher" Subject: Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=JLUKAm0LLDG1RncCbAbXzHOWhILEy-Cm2cJjIgQyQ3ySfh9yVuIf X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 > As for the name "Flight deck," eh... I would prefer if they used the=20 > original term, but it's not P.C. anymore. I won't repeat it here to=20 > risk offending anyone, but it contains the words "pit" and "cock."=20=20 Not=20 > nessecarilly in that order. >=20 > Quackin' Chicken, > -Brian F. > I may be off on this, but I don't believe the flight deck and the=20 cockpit(P.C. I'm not) are the same thing. Mike From josh.wozny@gmail.com Fri Jan 04 18:49:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 25211 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2008 02:49:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2008 02:49:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.177) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2008 02:49:10 -0000 X-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so12287815pyb.5 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:49:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.64.150.18 with SMTP id x18mr36540177qbd.0.1199501349537; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:49:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.135.14 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 18:49:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0801041849n466bce60p19b370ccdff340b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 21:49:09 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.177 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=J_mzbFlLIwhTeXVxrAW7_s2FELxWlSccboZzLkBRQzTF_BueMA X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah... and if there's one thing Brian has never spent time in before, it's a cockpit of a plane. :-D -Josh On Jan 4, 2008 7:25 PM, Mike Gallagher wrote: > > As for the name "Flight deck," eh... I would prefer if they used the > > original term, but it's not P.C. anymore. I won't repeat it here to > > risk offending anyone, but it contains the words "pit" and "cock." > Not > > nessecarilly in that order. > > > > Quackin' Chicken, > > -Brian F. > > > I may be off on this, but I don't believe the flight deck and the > cockpit(P.C. I'm not) are the same thing. > > Mike > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Jan 05 07:29:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 24840 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2008 15:29:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2008 15:29:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.128) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2008 15:29:08 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 15:29:08 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 15:29:08 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.82] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 15:29:08 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:29:07 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.128 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Ride sales generate millions for park X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=7sOuREmm8HAXjiiC727BUO7Ii5h-3jYMUjMClhvLRAxE8Zg X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 05, 2008 The Wichita Eagle http://www.kansas.com/101/story/272483.html By Bill Wilson PARK CITY, KS -- Bankrupt theme park Wild West World (WWW) ended November with about $3.2 million in the bank, according to operating reports filed this week with U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wichita. Court documents show that much of that revenue -- in 6 court-authorized bank accounts operated by park owner Thomas Etheredge's bankruptcy attorney, Ed Nazar -- was generated from ride sales. It's money Etheredge won't see. It will go toward WWW's bankruptcy expenses and secured debt. WWW closed and filed for bankruptcy July 9, claiming insolvency 2 months after the $30 million theme park opened. 23 of the park's 24 rides have been sold, 2 of them on consignment by Chance Rides, Nazar said. The Fiesta Mexicana is the only one that remains, Nazar said. It isn't clear whether sale proceeds approach the appraised value of the rides, Nazar said. Sources close to the bankruptcy say there's been no significant interest in the land from potential park operators. Plans to sell WWW's metal buildings and offer the land to developers were delayed late last year when Realtors Grant and Bradley Tidemann of J.P. Weigand & Sons mounted an e-mail campaign to find a buyer. Bradley Tidemann said Friday that the campaign has yielded "a couple of prospects" with "mild to serious" interest. "I wouldn't say that anything definite has been set, but I think some folks would like to have this resolved by spring," he said. Park City Mayor Dee Stuart, whose city owns WWW's parking lot, bridge and man-made lake after joining Etheredge's elaborate financing package, said she was undaunted by the ongoing search. "There's still time," she said. "Theme park operators don't grow on trees, and if anyone can find a buyer for the whole thing it's the Tidemanns." If the land remains unsold this spring, Bradley Tidemann said it likely will be auctioned as development ground. Meanwhile, auctions of park contents will resume at 9:30 a.m. Tuesday. Items to be auctioned will include maintenance tractors, passenger trailers, mowers, a pickup and other related items. ----------- Copyright 2008 The Wichita Eagle From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Jan 05 07:38:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45697 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2008 15:38:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2008 15:38:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.147) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2008 15:38:59 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 15:38:59 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 15:38:59 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2008 15:38:59 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:38:59 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.147 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Florida Residents Save on Disney Park Visits X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=kLmW6UJfQHJs6SQlmw7JPhsgo1d2mKWlXRDA_GcJKeyE-dw X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 03, 2008 The Centre Daily Times http://www.centredaily.com/living/travel/story/308185.html LAKE BUENA VISTA, FL -=97 Florida residents whose dream is to save money on Disney theme park visits can have it come true in early 2008. Walt Disney World Resort has kicked off the new year with a limited-time special offer that saves guests more than 20% off the price of a Florida Resident Disney Play 4 Days Pass (P4DP) -- a ticket that is a good deal even when normally priced. During January and February, Floridians can purchase a P4DP for $125 plus tax (the pass costs $105 +tax for children ages 3-9). Then, for 6 months from first use, they can visit a Disney theme park on any 4 days. On each day of use, the guest can choose to visit either Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Disney's Animal Kingdom or Disney's Hollywood Studios. "What better way to begin 2008 than to give FL residents a special ticket to come enjoy the kickoff of the 'Year of a Million Dreams' celebration," said Jim Alessandro, senior VP of marketing at WDW Resort. "And with new entertainment premiering throughout the spring and into the summer, this pass can become Floridians' ticket to be among the first to experience our new fun." The special price is available through Feb. 29. Thereafter, the FL Resident P4DP will be $159 -- still less than $40 a day to enjoy a Disney theme park experience. The Disney P4DP is available for purchase by calling 407/WDW-4DAYS (939-4329). FL Resident tickets are also available at WDW theme park ticket windows and Resort hotel locations, FL AAA offices and FL Disney Stores. Proof of FL residency is required. ----------- Copyright 2008 The Centre Daily Times From buzzgok@verizon.net Sat Jan 05 08:39:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: buzzgok@verizon.net X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 69983 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2008 16:39:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2008 16:39:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web84301.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.74.180) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2008 16:39:26 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 15211 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jan 2008 16:39:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 5QZ3Sr8VM1m9dVh8nsnVP0ckw0Zgxa8IdZBFgHqt8Ad8hZvt39ZM5W4gIHtv3qy7tyKksduzy3RPGe79IvPDbzHfKeI.mab_9wSBjQBz55qgDEv.DQ-- X-Received: from [76.99.150.166] by web84301.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:39:25 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.158.1 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 08:39:25 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <909458.13152.qm@web84301.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 69.147.74.180 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: SCOTT Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=275879843; y=4GP7T0Gp9A9K9fXLiEL0CLbRObSi4X1PSX24vJTyqgUfdTD1O-juYpkL7oN5Dg X-Yahoo-Profile: westshore82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why the beef about the name Maverick? Cedar Point built a coaster last year and what did they name it? Maverick. TEC #3802 ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike Gallagher To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 4, 2008 7:22:32 PM Subject: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds --- In RollerCoasterTalk@ yahoogroups. com, "Lance" wrote: > > True... though they may run into a copyright problem by trying to use the name Maverick in a ride with a Top Gun style setting, even without using the name. I believe the big issue with copyright infringement is if they believe the issue to be serious enough to cause confusion about if the product is really connected to the copyright. > > Maverick would cause some confusion if it were really Top Gun or not I suppose, especially since the ride was Top Gun... James Garner and Mel Gibson might get upset, too! Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mindbenderzzz@comcast.net Sat Jan 05 14:20:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: mindbenderzzz@comcast.net X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 99479 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2008 22:20:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2008 22:20:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.30.48) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2008 22:20:55 -0000 X-Received: from OMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZVEN1Y00E16AWCU0A0J500; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:20:55 +0000 X-Received: from DDCGZ941 ([66.31.2.248]) by OMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZaLX1Y0055M3NQ28S00000; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:20:39 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=a2PGiEQu-YQA:10 a=lWk7mi2_AAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=aWz3NaQfQtW-LVvEF0wA:9 a=v4j1B9WvFZlJ-_fg5dgA:7 a=RTARmuN_MXqB7LZqXo3IpPpT0UkA:4 a=Wrm7mFK44-cA:10 a=ao4RW71Vw8YA:10 a=IZhyctVdLesA:10 a=KPV7Ys48g1UA:10 a=8_FUVj4FAAAA:8 a=TdlxYXZ4AAAA:8 a=R7wXaFQ1AAAA:8 a=G_5s8neSAAAA:8 a=F45K5uvYJW4uhDHcIR4A:9 a=BEKcv891jDAljIi18gEA:7 a=KKwFGsS0D5gLG6-rUcWHoEDoRu8A:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=NDnIziN1gFQA:10 a=WD2S8eiFAUIA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <000c01c84fe8$fee77dd0$0501a8c0@DDCGZ941> To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:19:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Originating-IP: 76.96.30.48 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "mindbenderzzz" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Florida Residents Save on Disney Park Visits X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=160577448; y=InQ-DTLQ8c5ucb6Uz6GE8-S9uuUu6D0z3RTqfEKRTFPbY3YVpTic5fWd X-Yahoo-Profile: gdterrapinflyer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit can a florida resident buy tickets for non residents or are they only to be used by residents ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Florida Residents Save on Disney Park Visits Jan. 03, 2008 The Centre Daily Times http://www.centredaily.com/living/travel/story/308185.html LAKE BUENA VISTA, FL -- Florida residents whose dream is to save money on Disney theme park visits can have it come true in early 2008. Walt Disney World Resort has kicked off the new year with a limited-time special offer that saves guests more than 20% off the price of a Florida Resident Disney Play 4 Days Pass (P4DP) -- a ticket that is a good deal even when normally priced. During January and February, Floridians can purchase a P4DP for $125 plus tax (the pass costs $105 +tax for children ages 3-9). Then, for 6 months from first use, they can visit a Disney theme park on any 4 days. On each day of use, the guest can choose to visit either Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Disney's Animal Kingdom or Disney's Hollywood Studios. "What better way to begin 2008 than to give FL residents a special ticket to come enjoy the kickoff of the 'Year of a Million Dreams' celebration," said Jim Alessandro, senior VP of marketing at WDW Resort. "And with new entertainment premiering throughout the spring and into the summer, this pass can become Floridians' ticket to be among the first to experience our new fun." The special price is available through Feb. 29. Thereafter, the FL Resident P4DP will be $159 -- still less than $40 a day to enjoy a Disney theme park experience. The Disney P4DP is available for purchase by calling 407/WDW-4DAYS (939-4329). FL Resident tickets are also available at WDW theme park ticket windows and Resort hotel locations, FL AAA offices and FL Disney Stores. Proof of FL residency is required. ----------- Copyright 2008 The Centre Daily Times [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From josh.wozny@gmail.com Sat Jan 05 15:23:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 34853 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2008 23:23:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2008 23:23:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.180) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2008 23:23:38 -0000 X-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so12574362pyb.5 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:23:38 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.96.6 with SMTP id y6mr38513410qbl.24.1199575417121; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:23:37 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.191.10 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:23:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0801051523n35562844se2356c2bc94e5f3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:23:37 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <909458.13152.qm@web84301.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <909458.13152.qm@web84301.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.180 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=7KGQArLqh4inOeJZ_ojrkzGPj8ajGwUcN2v0K_Df1F0anjk1mw X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, that was the joke. On Jan 5, 2008 11:39 AM, SCOTT wrote: > Why the beef about the name Maverick? Cedar Point built a coaster last > year and what did they name it? Maverick. > > TEC > #3802 > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mike Gallagher > > To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, January 4, 2008 7:22:32 PM > Subject: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at > Carowinds > > --- In RollerCoasterTalk@ yahoogroups. com, "Lance" wrote: > > > > True... though they may run into a copyright problem by trying to use > the name Maverick in a ride with a Top Gun style setting, even without > using the name. I believe the big issue with copyright infringement is > if they believe the issue to be serious enough to cause confusion about > if the product is really connected to the copyright. > > > > Maverick would cause some confusion if it were really Top Gun or not > I suppose, especially since the ride was Top Gun... > > James Garner and Mel Gibson might get upset, too! > > Mike > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Sat Jan 05 18:30:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 90498 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2008 02:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2008 02:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2008 02:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 02:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 02:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 02:30:44 -0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:30:44 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.70.241.148 From: "jay_ducharme" Subject: MISC: The new Geocities site X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=vSkBoyITdNEL4FDbwGELfI5uaK6i6Qia2ysAunGX_0HuBNWvLzPb X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Hi folks. I've been tinkering with the old Geocities site for RollerCoasterTalk, trying to spruce it up a bit. It's got a ways to go yet, but you can check out the progress here: Jay From adamf.sandy@gmail.com Sun Jan 06 08:10:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: adamf.sandy@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14109 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2008 16:10:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2008 16:10:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO an-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.132.250) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2008 16:10:42 -0000 X-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c38so1654825ana.82 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:10:38 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.100.57.6 with SMTP id f6mr27420442ana.113.1199635838580; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:10:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: X-Received: from VALUED3253602F ( [76.100.102.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b18sm24884260ana.14.2008.01.06.08.10.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:10:37 -0800 (PST) To: Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:10:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 11.0.5207 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-index: AchQfq2vlvvddVNZRm+qoEHHF7T2Cg== Message-ID: <4780fd7d.1235640a.5823.ffff8ddf@mx.google.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.85.132.250 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Adam Sandy" Subject: MISC: MOA Webcam X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=256330587; y=U1FkXonEX6ceCM-_uvWgsfxGzm7pK6vsp2qZ_ere1Lleq3w X-Yahoo-Profile: afrsandy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those who have not seen it, MOA has a webcam up for the new Gerstlauer Euro-Fighter. You can see it at: http://info.theparkatmoa.com/Hours/RockPlunge.htm Right now the magnetic reducing brakes, storage track, station drives, and the base of the lift are all that can be seen. The stand-alone columns are for the track leading into the block brake. Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Jan 06 08:22:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 89808 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2008 16:22:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2008 16:22:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n30a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.33) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2008 16:22:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n30.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 16:22:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 16:22:07 -0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:22:07 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.33 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Future of Conneaut Lake Park Unknown X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=ack1vUcvy4Zpz7so9DmHbaHfu0ex6FHHGcvwbDUDw-7XjLo X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan 4, 2008 YourErie.com http://yourerie.com/content/fulltext/?cid=3D6185 by: Sarah Arbogast CONNEAUT LAKE, PA -- Conneaut Lake Park officials say they don't know whether or not the park will reopen this summer. The 116-y.o. amusement park still has a debt of nearly 3 million dollars. Officials say they're currently looking at their options.=20 Local business owners say if the park isn't up and running, the entire community will take a major hit. Stable Pit & Pub owner, Wanda Ramaley, says although she's hopeful the gates will be open, she doesn't think its likely. ------------ Copyright (c) 1998- 2007 Nexstar Broadcasting, Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Jan 06 08:30:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12941 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2008 16:30:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2008 16:30:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n36d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.190) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2008 16:30:57 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 16:30:57 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 16:30:57 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 16:30:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:30:56 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.190 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: OP-ED: Six Flags alcohol license not amusing X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=pvC9ZINHJJCxp2xCkLrYPOw5_84ndKi24Xkk7kOreunzLG0 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 4, 2008 The Frisco Enterprise Star http://www.friscoenterprise.com/articles/2008/01/06/frisco_enterprise/news/= a-newsfri76.txt By Rebecca Messmann ARLINGTON, TX -- Recently it came to everyone's attention that our favorite local amusement park, Six Flags Over Texas (6FOT), had applied for a liquor license in order to serve adult beverages at 6FOT and Hurricane Harbor. To be fair, I say "adult beverages" but they are reporting that while the license would allow them to serve any type of alcohol, their intentions are to only serve beer. I don't go to 6FOT as often as my husband does and I am not a big fan of roller coasters so he is the designated amusement park parent=1E but even so, it is a favorite place for my family and close enough to make a Saturday really fun and exciting without the hassle of a long drive added to the long lines. So, it is a place that I keep on my radar screen and when changes come along have to decide whether I like them or not and whether the latest change will keep my family away. This is one of those changes that could affect whether we keep going to 6FOT. Now I have to admit, there is nothing like a cold Coors in an ice cold bottle on a hot Texas day to bring a smile to my face. But, that's in my back yard n not in a public place that is frequented in the vast majority by children. And, I can handle 1 beer not 2-3. And, even after one I am not too sure that I could handle a roller coaster or that you would want to be sitting behind me through the first loop. See, it is more than someone getting a little drunk and causing a scene. It's the logistics of what happens if they lose it, both literally and figuratively. The 6FOT folks have held up examples such as Schlitterbahn, in New Braunfels, TX, and even Disney as good examples of parks that have served alcohol for a while now with no apparent problems. Well, that's all well and good. But, I won't jump off a bridge just because someone else does it. And, I don't in particularly like the idea of keeping up with the Joneses. So, that's not a really good argument in my book. Those places are not in my back yard and not a place that is most likely to be filled with my friends, family and neighbors who may pay the consequences if someone has a few too many to drink. But, again to be fair, other people's friends, family and neighbors are going to those places and everything seems to be OK. What is it about selling a little beer that has us all in an uproar? I am sure there will be a process through which adults will go through to purchase it and yes I am sure some teens will try and succeed in getting served, too. But is that any different than going to the Taste of Addison or most any 4th of July event? I am also sure that there will be security measures in place if someone has one too many. And, pretty sure you won't see folks wandering around with open beer bottles guzzling like there is no tomorrow. Still, I cringe at the thought. For some reason it just does not feel like the right thing to do. Why do you need alcohol at an amusement park? Shoot, doesn't riding one of those blasted roller coasters get your adrenaline going more than any beer ever could? Don't you get a sense of detachment when flung to the outer corners of the rail as if you might just be flung off into Never Never Land? And, I am sure, whether you admit it or not, sometimes when you get off one of those loop-de-loop thingamajigs you feel a little bit like you do the morning after a good binge. So, if you can get the same feeling by standing in line for a while to ride a coaster why do you need to buy a drink to do it? Nope, it just does not feel like the right thing to do. Unfortunately, my opinion as always counts only in this column which I control, and in this case yours probably does, too. While, we don't really get a vote on whether 6FOT will be granted the ability to serve alcohol, we can at least voice our opinion. You can check out the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission's Web site at www.tabc.state.tx to find out how. For once, I would just like the Dallas area to be a little different and not do something just because it could affect the bottom line, but because it is the right thing to do. ------------- Copyright =A9 2008 Star Community Newspapers From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Jan 06 08:36:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 37431 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2008 16:36:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2008 16:36:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n13a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.112) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2008 16:36:25 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n13.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 16:36:23 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 16:36:23 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 16:36:23 -0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:36:23 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.112 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Cedar Point jobs open X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=TyxFBH8a3YjkJyDbiGb_7IDa--T3edp86CayPQm3_Vamb38 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 5, 2008 The Detroit News http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20080105/BIZ/801050362 SANDUSKY, OH -- Cedar Point amusement park/resort, home of the world's largest collection of rides and roller coasters, is hiring for its 139th summer. More than 4,000 jobs are available at the Sandusky, OH, park voted the "Best Amusement Park in the World" for 10 consecutive years by the readers of the Amusement Today newspaper. For details, call (800) 668-JOBS or visit cedarpoint.com. ------------- =A9 Copyright 2008 The Detroit News From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Jan 06 08:43:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 74609 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2008 16:43:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2008 16:43:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n36d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.190) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2008 16:43:27 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 16:43:27 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 16:43:27 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 16:43:27 -0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:43:27 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.190 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Six Flags considers alcohol sales X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=_APJfvXtI7Go_XZ5j-eriEF0b48AD-vXwnXYXn-DVlf2zeo X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan 4, 2008 The Associated Press KETK-NBC http://www.ketknbc.com/news/local/13067442.html ARLINGTON, TX -- After officials at Six Flags Over Texas (6FOT) revealed their intention to sell alcohol at the amusement park, about 60 people showed up at a meeting last night in Arlington to find out how to protest the decision. 6FOT and Six Flags Hurricane Harbor posted notification last month that the parks were applying for liquor licenses. Following that posting, the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission got more than 600 phone calls, so yesterday's information meeting was scheduled. The intent of the meeting was to tell the public how to formally protest the applications, but residents spent most of the time expressing displeasure that a mixed-beverage permit could be issued for the parks. That's according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. A TABC official says dozens of written protests have already been received and he expects there will be a public hearing on the 6FOT applications. 6FOT officials, who say that "moms and dads" are the ones who have asked 6FOT to offer beer, said that the company will have controls in place to sell beer responsibly. -------- Copyright =A9 2008 KETK-TV Copyright 2006 ComCorp of Tyler Inc. From tommytheduck@yahoo.com Sun Jan 06 10:27:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: tommytheduck@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61899 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2008 18:26:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2008 18:26:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n9.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.136) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2008 18:26:58 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n9.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 18:26:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 18:26:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 18:26:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:26:57 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 64.233.202.90 From: "tommytheduck" Subject: Re: NEWS: Six Flags considers alcohol sales X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64391012; y=hIpjDB-sS0nCB-2JaKCqOF0uLFBlT40myzVbVQAJt4ptBiLFLiFZ X-Yahoo-Profile: tommytheduck =20 > 6FOT officials, who say that "moms and dads" are the ones who have > asked 6FOT to offer beer, said that the company will have controls in > place to sell beer responsibly. Yeah, the same controls they have in place now to make sure that lines=20 move smoothly, food is served fast and hot, and rides are operated=20 safely. Namely, the wonderful group of employees that 6F already has... yeah... I love beer and all, but I don't really think serving it at a theme=20 park is a good idea. That's all I need is some drunk asshole throwing=20 up on me and the 28 people behind him on Titan. Quackin chicken, -Brian F. From tommytheduck@yahoo.com Sun Jan 06 10:36:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: tommytheduck@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12164 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2008 18:36:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2008 18:36:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n25c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.216) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2008 18:36:03 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n25.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 18:36:03 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.77] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 18:36:03 -0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:36:02 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <76e1ec0a0801041849n466bce60p19b370ccdff340b1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.216 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 64.233.202.90 From: "tommytheduck" Subject: Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64391012; y=kBi6og_VGbVVOwkEMoNAH3hfDPLd9ABBD97FM3YQAK7TzRwXci2p X-Yahoo-Profile: tommytheduck > Yeah... and if there's one thing Brian has never spent time in=20 before, it's > a cockpit of a plane. :-D >=20=20 > -Josh > > I may be off on this, but I don't believe the flight deck and the > > cockpit(P.C. I'm not) are the same thing. > > > > Mike Shh... don't tell anyone... everyone here still thinks I'm a flight=20 attendant. (P.C. for "galley wench") At least according to that=20 little argument with that Eric Giesel guy. (Is that who that guy=20 was? I can't remember.) Quackin chicken, -Brian F. P.S. I'm only kidding about that galley wench thing... P.P.S. What's the difference between a flight attendant and a=20 washing machine? From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Sun Jan 06 12:17:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 68990 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2008 20:17:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jan 2008 20:17:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.137) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2008 20:17:18 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 20:17:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 20:17:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2008 20:17:17 -0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:17:17 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.70.241.148 From: "jay_ducharme" Subject: MISC: Another backyard coaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=LzV6wiRBxNvgiLPuz-71CtoNhtAkMduMw6nSjt_cFZJEgOdhSQSK X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Not many hills on this one, and that car looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen. But it shows another resourceful coaster lover: Jay From lance@screamscape.com Sun Jan 06 17:25:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17787 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2008 01:25:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2008 01:25:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta16.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2008 01:25:24 -0000 X-Received: from sj1-dm04.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta16.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72613FD3A for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:25:23 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: sj1-dm04 X-Received: by sj1-dm04.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id sj1-dm04.4774535f.578369 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:25:23 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHgX+DA0hdHwIAAAAB,7e8d4a02fd3a20a8225ff4247711b9ff Message-ID: <8E6F2623A3C647C8BA70DE24D58F7876@ScreamscapeHP> To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 20:25:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Six Flags considers alcohol sales X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=LXhBaTEVFLEhRexhr2VvcsQo81l73qV8o7PLm-z7VKCFbKnQDk5ftJI1GQ X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance >> 6FOT officials, who say that "moms and dads" are the ones who have >> asked 6FOT to offer beer, said that the company will have controls in >> place to sell beer responsibly. > >I love beer and all, but I don't really think serving it at a theme >park is a good idea. That's all I need is some drunk asshole throwing >up on me and the 28 people behind him on Titan. Boy, and all this time I thought Texans knew how to handle their beer! :-) Who would have thought such a fight over the right to sell beer in a theme park would have come from Texas when the sale of beer is fairly common at a great number of theme parks across the country, including Disney. In fact, I believe the only Disney parks that do not sell alchohol at all are the origional Disneyland (unless you can get into Club 33...) and the Magic Kingdom in Florida, otherwise every other park and nearby Disney resort sells it. From coastermanokc@cox.net Sun Jan 06 18:04:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: coastermanokc@cox.net X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 87273 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2008 02:04:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2008 02:04:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO eastrmmtao106.cox.net) (68.230.240.48) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2008 02:04:09 -0000 X-Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080107020409.EXPH476.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 21:04:09 -0500 X-Received: from MYCOMPUTER ([68.229.223.145]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id a23X1Y00438qQsL0000000; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:03:32 -0500 To: References: <8E6F2623A3C647C8BA70DE24D58F7876@ScreamscapeHP> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 20:04:02 -0600 Message-ID: <003001c850d1$93d8b920$91dfe544@MYCOMPUTER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <8E6F2623A3C647C8BA70DE24D58F7876@ScreamscapeHP> Thread-index: AchQzDAQqmq4naSjTf6V/6y2zUYvGQABQQeg X-Originating-IP: 68.230.240.48 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Michael" Subject: RE: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Six Flags considers alcohol sales X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=272325397; y=ixq35bsu2vo0IaL5RttoDrShtYTTxfbWYeoYVJhfB7b-a0LZDOe7uQ X-Yahoo-Profile: coastermanokc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And I think SFOT may be one of the only Six Flags parks NOT to sell alcohol. I wouldn't buy it because it would cost me a couple of arms and legs anyway. Michael Lopez _____ From: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lance Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:26 PM To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Six Flags considers alcohol sales >> 6FOT officials, who say that "moms and dads" are the ones who have >> asked 6FOT to offer beer, said that the company will have controls in >> place to sell beer responsibly. > >I love beer and all, but I don't really think serving it at a theme >park is a good idea. That's all I need is some drunk asshole throwing >up on me and the 28 people behind him on Titan. Boy, and all this time I thought Texans knew how to handle their beer! :-) Who would have thought such a fight over the right to sell beer in a theme park would have come from Texas when the sale of beer is fairly common at a great number of theme parks across the country, including Disney. In fact, I believe the only Disney parks that do not sell alchohol at all are the origional Disneyland (unless you can get into Club 33...) and the Magic Kingdom in Florida, otherwise every other park and nearby Disney resort sells it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From munkye1972@yahoo.com Mon Jan 07 04:09:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: munkye1972@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 81015 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2008 12:09:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2008 12:09:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.180) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2008 12:09:20 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2008 12:09:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2008 12:09:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.92] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2008 12:09:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:09:18 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <76e1ec0a0801041849n466bce60p19b370ccdff340b1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.180 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.162.44.4 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: NEWS: Top Gun and Borg get new names at Carowinds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=124743306; y=qcKpuiXZRm6Ud-cP1HwdSCy56ut4N26JVKV-8K30aw0e9z5Xcg X-Yahoo-Profile: munkye1972 I agree. The Flight Deck is the place on an aircraft carrier where=20 planes land and take off.=20 Chris --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Josh W" =20 wrote: > > Yeah... and if there's one thing Brian has never spent time in=20 before, it's > a cockpit of a plane. :-D >=20 >=20 > -Josh >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jan 4, 2008 7:25 PM, Mike Gallagher wrote: >=20 > > > As for the name "Flight deck," eh... I would prefer if they=20 used the > > > original term, but it's not P.C. anymore. I won't repeat it=20 here to > > > risk offending anyone, but it contains the words "pit"=20 and "cock." > > Not > > > nessecarilly in that order. > > > > > > Quackin' Chicken, > > > -Brian F. > > > > > I may be off on this, but I don't believe the flight deck and the > > cockpit(P.C. I'm not) are the same thing. > > > > Mike > > > >=20=20 > > >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From gburnash@earthlink.net Mon Jan 07 05:28:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: gburnash@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 84116 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2008 13:28:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2008 13:28:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (209.86.89.70) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2008 13:28:57 -0000 X-Received: from pool-71-122-138-187.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.122.138.187] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JBs2C-0008C6-NW for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 08:28:56 -0500 Message-ID: <47822882.2080503@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 08:26:26 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: <8E6F2623A3C647C8BA70DE24D58F7876@ScreamscapeHP> In-Reply-To: <8E6F2623A3C647C8BA70DE24D58F7876@ScreamscapeHP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95f3a1acbbcf5638846e115e3e8cf45574bf435c0eb9d47850561ff51fa964bb4c0ccecab69d1469d817c6d8370ce082350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.89.70 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: george burnash Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Six Flags considers alcohol sales X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=115345197; y=nopBjTMgw9FBpwvgFYqWXt8Q_qWVIDf1Sj1fINP3jOuCsew X-Yahoo-Profile: gburnash Lance wrote: > > > >> 6FOT officials, who say that "moms and dads" are the ones who have > >> asked 6FOT to offer beer, said that the company will have controls in > >> place to sell beer responsibly. > > > >I love beer and all, but I don't really think serving it at a theme > >park is a good idea. That's all I need is some drunk asshole throwing > >up on me and the 28 people behind him on Titan. > > Boy, and all this time I thought Texans knew how to handle their beer! :-) Actually, doesn't shock me at all that Texas would be the place to fight over it- especially in light of how much of Texas is still "dry". I want to guess that half of TX doesn't allow alcohol sales within their county, including the couple that we lived in during the 2 years we were there. Of course that just meant that people drove over to the next county to buy their booze, and bought more at once so they wouldn't have to go as often... > > Who would have thought such a fight over the right to sell beer in a theme > park would have come from Texas when the sale of beer is fairly common > at a great number of theme parks across the country, including Disney. > In fact, I believe the only Disney parks that do not sell alchohol at all > are > the origional Disneyland (unless you can get into Club 33...) and the Magic > Kingdom in Florida, otherwise every other park and nearby Disney resort > sells it. > I'm pretty sure you're right. And generally people aren't going to get drunk at the parks- at least not with the very high prices they charge for the drinks. Although it does happen. There were times that I had to deal with drunks when I was a driver on Rhino Rally- most of the time not bad but there were a couple of moments there. And of course there are those that think that "drinking around the world" at Epcot is great fun, though handling them at the end of the day isn't. But they're the rare exception. In my experience I found the worst drinkers and drunks over at Universal, especially during the beer festival (ughhh) But even then it wasn't that bad in the parks. keep on ridin George From lance@screamscape.com Mon Jan 07 06:10:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98663 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2008 14:10:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2008 14:10:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta14.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2008 14:10:27 -0000 X-Received: from sj1-dm04.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta14.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7747F427EA for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:10:27 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: sj1-dm04 X-Received: by sj1-dm04.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id sj1-dm04.4774535f.5d61e5 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:10:26 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHgjLSY8wl7wIAAAAB,54372e7c9891ce320f4549df08a208db Message-ID: To: References: <8E6F2623A3C647C8BA70DE24D58F7876@ScreamscapeHP> <47822882.2080503@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <47822882.2080503@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:10:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Six Flags considers alcohol sales X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=0Mp62c5wYnIeQnOk7FUwx-moBQpN2yFZwLf1tX5BNnzid5gBoGp5Nuaobw X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance ----- Original Message ----- From: george burnash Lance wrote: > Boy, and all this time I thought Texans knew how to handle their beer! :-) Actually, doesn't shock me at all that Texas would be the place to fight over it- especially in light of how much of Texas is still "dry". I want to guess that half of TX doesn't allow alcohol sales within their county, including the couple that we lived in during the 2 years we were there. ------ Wow... shows how much I know. I had no idea there were "dry" sections in Texas. To here the people I've known from San Antonio and Dallas talk, you can practicly buy beer through the drive-thrus. My bad... Of course, I'm semi-sheltered... I didn't know any "dry counties" still existed until I moved to North Carolina. As I recall growing up in SoCal, the only times you can't buy is between 2am and 6am and in Vegas it's legal 24 hours. Florida had some more restrictive timelines to buy beer... and I'm still not over the fact that you can't just buy your hard booze in the grocery stores or at Costcos in Florida or North Carolina. Of course, I guess that's why people often drive to South Carolina to pick up the cheaper booze from general liquor stores instead of these state controlled "ABC Stores" here in NC. We had one ABC Store in San Diego that I recall growing up, but it was just a nasty little beach area liquor store that got a rep for selling booze to underage kids. ;-) Okay... now I've gone way off topic. I'll stop... sorry. From srhnewburn@yahoo.com Mon Jan 07 06:26:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: srhnewburn@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 95811 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2008 14:26:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2008 14:26:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web58214.mail.re3.yahoo.com) (68.142.236.152) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2008 14:26:02 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 40655 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2008 14:25:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: IBF5eG0VM1loRgJdI2MU5vH.9gb4Q6PEMHGfnXkY9KCDXuPz8TzbbeqPSKvyllkoGOdBkY9CeK_.9R2tqq_5MOWis4oSjIpYpVOwqFlH1k7Vif3dgNc- X-Received: from [79.67.43.203] by web58214.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:25:58 PST Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:25:58 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <512994.36934.qm@web58214.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.236.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: sarah newburn Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Six Flags considers alcohol sales X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=305426101; y=7GK4DFPbfO-DjNOiaZ9Jq82-zfF7Jkufzzyw3ddUKcDFRvxyBw X-Yahoo-Profile: srhnewburn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi Lance wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: george burnash Lance wrote: > Boy, and all this time I thought Texans knew how to handle their beer! :-) Actually, doesn't shock me at all that Texas would be the place to fight over it- especially in light of how much of Texas is still "dry". I want to guess that half of TX doesn't allow alcohol sales within their county, including the couple that we lived in during the 2 years we were there. ------ Wow... shows how much I know. I had no idea there were "dry" sections in Texas. To here the people I've known from San Antonio and Dallas talk, you can practicly buy beer through the drive-thrus. My bad... Of course, I'm semi-sheltered... I didn't know any "dry counties" still existed until I moved to North Carolina. As I recall growing up in SoCal, the only times you can't buy is between 2am and 6am and in Vegas it's legal 24 hours. Florida had some more restrictive timelines to buy beer... and I'm still not over the fact that you can't just buy your hard booze in the grocery stores or at Costcos in Florida or North Carolina. Of course, I guess that's why people often drive to South Carolina to pick up the cheaper booze from general liquor stores instead of these state controlled "ABC Stores" here in NC. We had one ABC Store in San Diego that I recall growing up, but it was just a nasty little beach area liquor store that got a rep for selling booze to underage kids. ;-) Okay... now I've gone way off topic. I'll stop... sorry. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sampathphd2007@yahoo.com Mon Jan 07 08:34:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: sampathphd2007@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 74277 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2008 16:34:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2008 16:34:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n31c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.8) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2008 16:34:31 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n31.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2008 16:34:31 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.201] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2008 16:34:31 -0000 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:34:29 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 141.225.144.153 From: "sampathphd2007" Subject: Research on Disney X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=332175590; y=sSl87zlRAwfR6Qxs2HQLubMVdoE0BOTeoDUApcROoQqUT4sNmr36_Tw X-Yahoo-Profile: sampathphd2007 Hi all, I am new to this group.I am posting this message with the permission=20 of the group owner. I am a doctoral student in marketing at University of Memphis,TN.I=20 am doing my doctoral research on customer loyalty towards amusement=20 parks. I thought that it might be a good idea to share relevant=20 details about it here. =20 Firms usually come up with strategies like frequent flier miles and=20 loyalty cards to build customer loyalty. While such strategies bring=20 in short term sales, they are not effective in winning customers'=20 minds.Many customers are loyal to such firms as long as the deal=20 isgood.So it is not surprising that defection rate in such companies'=20 is around 70-90%. =20 The idea of my dissertation is that you cannot but loyalty,but have=20 to earn it.Loyalty is not just behavior,but also has an emotional=20 dimension.Loyalty built on emotion endures longer than loyalty built=20 on loyalty cards.For example customer loyalty for firms like Disney=20 is based on emotions.So it will last longer than customer loyalty for=20 a firm like Macy's. =20 It is easy to hypothesize this, but proving it is an altogether=20 different task .To prove this I have to measure customer loyalty and=20 emotional bonds in Disney and Macy's and find out whether emotional=20 bonds and loyalty for disney is relatively higher than that of Macy's. =20 I have hosted my questionnaire on survey monkey, the research=20 website.If you want to have a look at my questionnaire on Disney and=20 how I measure loyalty,emotional bonds,service quality of Disney you=20 are more than welcome to do so. =20 Survey URl: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=3DLp8UyCKrrrdor9_2fszrOCrA_3d_3d =20 If you want to participate in this survey, you are most welcome to do=20 so.None of your personal details are collected(except age,=20 gender).Further from research funds,for every 75 respondents, one=20 lucky winner will get $50.If 75 respondents come from=20 RollerCoasterTalk group,I will run a seperate raffle for this group. (Maximum of 5 winners) =20 I would like to thank the moderators of RollerCoasterTalk group for=20 permiting me to post this message in the group.Your participation in=20 this survey will help this research to a great extent. =20 Regards Sampath Ranganathan Doctoral Student in Marketing A320 Fogelman College of Business and Economics University of Memphis TN-38152 USA Email: sampathphd2007@yahoo.com From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Mon Jan 07 13:14:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 90414 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2008 21:14:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2008 21:14:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.60) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2008 21:14:08 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 81172 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2008 21:14:08 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: UmV3cdkVM1kFZCQsIXJ1QQ7gSJqIr4n0_koAlwPCtX5iQGm2wQFsCwr8eo0FaLE6oV_mvT8FaPRZFN0TQmGIMg4n2kIK5ng3hh8.f6EBPlaCE.QUXgs- X-Received: from [72.70.241.148] by web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:14:08 PST Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:14:08 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <242806.5320.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.60 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: MISC: Whalom in Nigeria X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=BifFYuQfEQTumFmd2gSOnPkGw28ToDT-1dUIdbde_2Tv4PQA89kb X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It looks like Scott Lanciani's e-mail address has been co-opted by a Nigerian spammer. So if any of you are with the New Whalom Park Ownership Program, beware. I wrote back to Scott about his "emergency" e-mail I received and got this as a reply: Hello, I want you to know that i really need your help and i want you to know that you are the person that can help me out of the situation and i want you to know that i have contact the Embassy and i was told that i will be given another Document with passport,So that i can come back to the country and i was told by them that i must pay the hotel fees myself and i want you to help me with $800,So that i can use it to pay the hotel fees and i want you to know that i promise you that when i get back to the country and i will pay you back the money immidately,I want you to know that you will have to sent the money to my name that i email to you via western union and get back to me immidately you sent the money,So that i can confirm it and pay the hotel fees.I want you to get back to me as soon as you sent the money today. Senders Name:::::::::: Recievers Name:::::::::Scott Lanciani Recievers Location::::::Lagos Nigeria Test Question:::: To Who Answer::::::::::: Scott Amount::::::::::::::::::$800 Mtcn Number::::::::::::: ? Thanks Scott Lanciani --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Mon Jan 07 13:24:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60676 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2008 21:24:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2008 21:24:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.61) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2008 21:24:36 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 76654 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2008 21:24:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: _dx8JMkVM1n9jTKa0p5KX8WE2dRgCqelm.4XcBhnsAkYwlsTqgXw2dyi41UhxIs9XrvUpoVa2o_2SLYjks3TUqp13a8M7ye0hGGSsIwxt__OYNQISypsEqVD8avbGGms_R1IiLWggyUXRbE- X-Received: from [72.70.241.148] by web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:24:32 PST Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:24:32 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1199722703.132.43337.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <452951.76381.qm@web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.61 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: NEWS: Six Flags considers alcohol sales X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=_YP9YCR7C3q_hKrHY57gnC5MtruzOn3z0RTVEs_WxgdMA5hRuVh5 X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 6FOT officials, who say that "moms and dads" are the ones who have > asked 6FOT to offer beer, said that the company will have controls in > place to sell beer responsibly. < Whatever. I don't know what all the hoopla is about. Out of all the amusement parks I've been to, very few of them *didn't* sell beer. It's a good profit item for them. Yeah, there are always a few people who drink too much, but that's what park security is for. All parks are in a sense "family" parks. But there are lots of "family" restaurants that sell beer too. If the people of the great state of Texas are so against drinking, then let Six Flags sell beer. When the guests all turn out to be teetotalers then SIx Flags' experiment will go bust. Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Mon Jan 07 17:03:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59287 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2008 01:03:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2008 01:03:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web35713.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (66.163.179.167) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2008 01:03:16 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 50216 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jan 2008 01:03:16 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: av.AeqQVM1nqSGx304aLQRFWWyZkC3yc87Z1O9G1l.87A0Bdismv7RX8vhfzW9qFB9kPVfxsw_xzb9mpd.U1pfl3w9RHDDQRmvQLfmLJylPciEc- X-Received: from [138.89.128.156] by web35713.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:03:16 PST Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:03:16 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <148859.49568.qm@web35713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 66.163.179.167 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Michael Gallagher Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Research on Disney X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=q7wLLcV2KMX8nq1tiyK14qZf7TzVx0k73ZOo9v-hEBGfYx9Tjv57 X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I started to do this, but then I realized it was pointless and inane answering questions about my feelings toward Disneyland, a park I visited ONCE, 29 years ago. I've visited WDW more times, and much more recently, but I wasn't seeing any queries about that park. Maybe they were still to come. Also, typical marketing questions..same questions, different phrasing. Considering the number of typographical errors in your post, I'm glad your doctorate is not in English. Mike sampathphd2007 wrote: Hi all, I am new to this group.I am posting this message with the permission of the group owner. I am a doctoral student in marketing at University of Memphis,TN.I am doing my doctoral research on customer loyalty towards amusement parks. I thought that it might be a good idea to share relevant details about it here. Firms usually come up with strategies like frequent flier miles and loyalty cards to build customer loyalty. While such strategies bring in short term sales, they are not effective in winning customers' minds.Many customers are loyal to such firms as long as the deal isgood.So it is not surprising that defection rate in such companies' is around 70-90%. The idea of my dissertation is that you cannot but loyalty,but have to earn it.Loyalty is not just behavior,but also has an emotional dimension.Loyalty built on emotion endures longer than loyalty built on loyalty cards.For example customer loyalty for firms like Disney is based on emotions.So it will last longer than customer loyalty for a firm like Macy's. It is easy to hypothesize this, but proving it is an altogether different task .To prove this I have to measure customer loyalty and emotional bonds in Disney and Macy's and find out whether emotional bonds and loyalty for disney is relatively higher than that of Macy's. I have hosted my questionnaire on survey monkey, the research website.If you want to have a look at my questionnaire on Disney and how I measure loyalty,emotional bonds,service quality of Disney you are more than welcome to do so. Survey URl: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Lp8UyCKrrrdor9_2fszrOCrA_3d_3d If you want to participate in this survey, you are most welcome to do so.None of your personal details are collected(except age, gender).Further from research funds,for every 75 respondents, one lucky winner will get $50.If 75 respondents come from RollerCoasterTalk group,I will run a seperate raffle for this group. (Maximum of 5 winners) I would like to thank the moderators of RollerCoasterTalk group for permiting me to post this message in the group.Your participation in this survey will help this research to a great extent. Regards Sampath Ranganathan Doctoral Student in Marketing A320 Fogelman College of Business and Economics University of Memphis TN-38152 USA Email: sampathphd2007@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From josh.wozny@gmail.com Mon Jan 07 17:17:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45273 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2008 01:17:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2008 01:17:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.183) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2008 01:17:35 -0000 X-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so11186909pyb.6 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:17:34 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.64.149.15 with SMTP id w15mr43667951qbd.59.1199755050431; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:17:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.191.10 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:17:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0801071717ge9a1e98v11e700b051cdad09@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:17:30 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <148859.49568.qm@web35713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <148859.49568.qm@web35713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.183 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Research on Disney X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=auz0MTHhatf51p8myZDTEadPuS98PoCy9RBjvPufUxCEQvp9uA X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just completed it, and it felt like a lot of the same question over and over, with slightly different wording. IE. Disneyland is a good value, Disneyland offers a lot for the price, Disneyland is comparable in price to others around it, etc... Josh On Jan 7, 2008 8:03 PM, Michael Gallagher wrote: > I started to do this, but then I realized it was pointless and inane > answering questions about my feelings toward Disneyland, a park I visited > ONCE, 29 years ago. I've visited WDW more times, and much more recently, but > I wasn't seeing any queries about that park. Maybe they were still to come. > Also, typical marketing questions..same questions, different phrasing. > > Considering the number of typographical errors in your post, I'm glad your > doctorate is not in English. > > Mike > > sampathphd2007 > > wrote: > Hi all, > > I am new to this group.I am posting this message with the permission > of the group owner. > > I am a doctoral student in marketing at University of Memphis,TN.I > am doing my doctoral research on customer loyalty towards amusement > parks. I thought that it might be a good idea to share relevant > details about it here. > > Firms usually come up with strategies like frequent flier miles and > loyalty cards to build customer loyalty. While such strategies bring > in short term sales, they are not effective in winning customers' > minds.Many customers are loyal to such firms as long as the deal > isgood.So it is not surprising that defection rate in such companies' > is around 70-90%. > > The idea of my dissertation is that you cannot but loyalty,but have > to earn it.Loyalty is not just behavior,but also has an emotional > dimension.Loyalty built on emotion endures longer than loyalty built > on loyalty cards.For example customer loyalty for firms like Disney > is based on emotions.So it will last longer than customer loyalty for > a firm like Macy's. > > It is easy to hypothesize this, but proving it is an altogether > different task .To prove this I have to measure customer loyalty and > emotional bonds in Disney and Macy's and find out whether emotional > bonds and loyalty for disney is relatively higher than that of Macy's. > > I have hosted my questionnaire on survey monkey, the research > website.If you want to have a look at my questionnaire on Disney and > how I measure loyalty,emotional bonds,service quality of Disney you > are more than welcome to do so. > > Survey URl: > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Lp8UyCKrrrdor9_2fszrOCrA_3d_3d > > If you want to participate in this survey, you are most welcome to do > so.None of your personal details are collected(except age, > gender).Further from research funds,for every 75 respondents, one > lucky winner will get $50.If 75 respondents come from > RollerCoasterTalk group,I will run a seperate raffle for this group. > (Maximum of 5 winners) > > I would like to thank the moderators of RollerCoasterTalk group for > permiting me to post this message in the group.Your participation in > this survey will help this research to a great extent. > > Regards > Sampath Ranganathan > Doctoral Student in Marketing > A320 Fogelman College of Business and Economics > University of Memphis > TN-38152 > USA > Email: sampathphd2007@yahoo.com > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 08 08:48:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 37766 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2008 16:48:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2008 16:48:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n22a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.51) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2008 16:48:31 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n22.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2008 16:48:31 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2008 16:48:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:48:29 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Disney Announces Big Change at Theme Park X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=2fKYuj0JFkCHUC7drGKecXJqNbViQcpojIVAe0SbL3SdaxQ X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 7, 2008 WESH-2 News Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/wesh/20080107/lo_wesh/14991059 LAKE BUENA VISTA, FL -- Disney is making a major change to one of its Orlando theme parks. Beginning on Monday, Disney-MGM Studios will change its name to Disney's Hollywood Studios. Disney officials said the name change reflects the theme park's celebration of the golden age of movies, as well as the new entertainment that today's Hollywood offers in music, television, movies and theater. Some new attractions will open at the theme park in 2008, including a cutting-edge interactive attraction, a live-action stage show and a parade. Officials said the name change also puts an end to a legal dispute with the MGM film company. ---------- Copyright =A9 2008 WESH NewsChannel2000.com Copyright =A9 2008 Yahoo! Inc From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 08 08:54:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 95615 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2008 16:54:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2008 16:54:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.46) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2008 16:54:41 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by n17.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2008 16:54:40 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2008 16:54:40 -0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:54:40 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.46 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Area grows as hub for park operations X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=9xURDih-tBbkhVeYfTWP2F6R2ATwZKDiD8eOahUJ-8Zp_To X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 7, 2008 Orlando Sentinel http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/custom/tourism/orl-parksrail0708jan= 07,0,6604539.story?track=3Drss By Scott Powers ORLANDO, FL -- Orlando gains more credence as the world's theme park center this summer when Busch Entertainment Corp. (BEC) transfers its headquarters and several dozen executive jobs from St. Louis. With that operational shift, plus the worldwide headquarters of Universal Parks & Resorts, many of the top executives for Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, and 7 of the world's 17 busiest theme parks, Orlando is becoming a place where the industry's top managers are likely to bump into each other at the supermarket. That's one reason BEC is leaving St. Louis for Orlando, VP Joseph Couceiro said. "What it does is allow all our corporate staff to be immersed in this community and this industry. Having done it myself -- I've lived in St. Louis and Orlando -- it's not just about being able to walk into the parks, it's being able to ... go to Publix and run into somebody else in the industry," he said. "Let's face it, Orlando is already the hub of tourism in the US, and will become more so." The move by BEC -- a wholly owned subsidiary of Anheuser-Busch Cos., one of the world's largest beer makers -- should be competed by mid-summer, bringing as many as 55 executives and other staff. The move was preceded by the elevation of several SeaWorld executives to corporate positions, including Couceiro and former SeaWorld GM Jim Atchison, now BEC's president and COO. The company has 10 theme parks and water parks, 26,000 employees, and is expected to generate about $1.3 billion in revenue in the next fiscal year. ------------ Copyright =A9 2008, Orlando Sentinel From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 08 09:01:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 80736 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2008 17:01:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2008 17:01:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.157) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2008 17:01:34 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2008 17:01:34 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2008 17:01:34 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.86] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2008 17:01:34 -0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:01:33 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.157 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Hundreds queue for 2,000 free tickets X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=z9NAsipKQYibjBKIjVilzzX9stlbZJ8DiSxjqCu_44x9siY X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 2008/01/08 The New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Tuesday/National/2126753/Article/ind= ex_html MALACCA, MALAYSIA -- The queue outside the New Straits Times office in Taman Melaka Raya stretched for as far as 50m as hundreds of Berita Harian readers lined up to redeem free tickets for the Genting Highlands outdoor theme park. http://www.genting.com.my/en/themepark/ All they had to do to be eligible for the free tickets was to collect 31 Berita Harian mastheads from Dec 1 to 31. Many of them had travelled great distances and waited in line for hours to get the tickets for the outdoor theme park treat. NSTP tele-add representative Alice Quake, who was in charge of the redemption counter yesterday, said all 2,000 tickets were given out within 2 hours. "The counter only opened at 10am, but the crowd had started to gather in front of the office as early as 8am," she said. She added that all the tickets were snapped up by noon. Aziz Abdul Rahman said he had travelled more than 50km from his home in Muar, Johor, and waited in line for more than 2 hours to collect 5 tickets. "My relatives helped me collect the mastheads," said the 43-y.o. Public Works Department technician. Mohd Noh Yaakop, 26, who works the night shift in a factory said he came straight from work to redeem 17 tickets. "I haven't slept a wink the whole night as I was eager to grab a few tickets ," he said. -------------- Copyright =A9 2007 NST Online From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 08 09:05:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 93435 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2008 17:05:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2008 17:05:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.177) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2008 17:05:32 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2008 17:05:32 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2008 17:05:32 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2008 17:05:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:05:32 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.177 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Disney bans children from fanciest park restaurant X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=JQ1_8oHXM4f8wO-UfGtheHCmYoH9tWoiy7LMKuVIzovk6ts X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 6th January 2008 The West Australian http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=3D27&ContentID=3D53321 LAKE BUENA VISTA, FL -- Walt Disney World has banned young children from its fanciest restaurant. Starting this week, children under 10 are no longer welcome at Victoria & Albert's in the Grand Floridian Resort & Spa at the Florida theme park. "We want to be the restaurant that's available for that adult experience," said GM Israel Perez. Disney is responding to guests' desires, Rosemary Rose, Disney's VP for food, beverage and merchandise operations, told the Orlando Sentinel newspaper. Rose said only about 3 families a month ever brought young children to Victoria & Albert's, where men are required to wear jackets, and women must wear dresses or pantsuits. Prices start at $US125. It is not the first time Disney has banned children from establishments. Disney has periodically barred children who are not with adults from its Pleasure Island entertainment district and from individual nightclubs. It also has an adults-only restaurant on its 2 cruise ships. -------------- Copyright 2008 West Australian Newspapers Limited From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Tue Jan 08 17:39:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 95147 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2008 01:39:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jan 2008 01:39:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.145) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2008 01:39:12 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 01:39:12 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 01:39:12 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.75] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 01:39:12 -0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:39:10 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.145 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 138.89.128.156 From: "Mike Gallagher" Subject: Re: UPDATE: Disney Announces Big Change at Theme Park X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=Jg758c6rRUXSpOJcjUAbaNpfnp6e4UJ_akJtvKoDRdLGAJJdWtIV X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 > Disney officials said the name change reflects the theme park's > celebration of the golden age of movies, as well as the new > entertainment that today's Hollywood offers in music, television, > movies and theater. That's a nice example of "corporate speak" for.....(see below) >=20 >=20 > Officials said the name change also puts an end to a legal dispute > with the MGM film company. That couldn't be the PRIMARY reason for the name change now, could it? Mike > ---------- > Copyright =A9 2008 WESH NewsChannel2000.com > Copyright =A9 2008 Yahoo! Inc > From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Wed Jan 09 07:42:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40130 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2008 15:42:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jan 2008 15:42:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.53) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2008 15:42:15 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 96887 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jan 2008 15:42:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: .eQCfPkVM1mSdTFWJK6dzWqEFlMhXDPvWw9rNVflM8DndX7.TPEqey0i_T1cGcuE1Q-- X-Received: from [134.241.135.70] by web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:42:14 PST Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 07:42:14 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk , Dave Anderson , Rich Boehmer MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <694447.96296.qm@web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.53 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: MISC: Ultimate Immelman X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=BPMZ3n3234aO3CQrUeduoB2dusskeo9Lk-6Pzqey3vVhHN0aaJ6s X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is the story of Steve, a journalist who wanted to ride with the Blue Angels. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lance@screamscape.com Wed Jan 09 09:31:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60948 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2008 17:31:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jan 2008 17:31:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta14.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2008 17:31:27 -0000 X-Received: from dm07.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta14.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C549F422BF for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2008 09:31:21 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm07 X-Received: by dm07.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id dm07.476ab11c.b8850b for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2008 09:31:10 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHhQTew72hUAIAAAAB,ba57529df04c14430b65f9e2a35fd7c5 Message-ID: <97E5EF7F37734D5480A70A46B47A1ECF@ScreamscapeHP> To: References: <694447.96296.qm@web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <694447.96296.qm@web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:31:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] MISC: Ultimate Immelman X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=vGhDXcY4kFGpDJ9AfgZweAfqjAypmWtypkTTRCUFp167eVZGaxVnexVq4w X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Those videos are great! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay Ducharme To: RollerCoasterTalk ; Dave Anderson ; Rich Boehmer Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: [RollerCoasterTalk] MISC: Ultimate Immelman This is the story of Steve, a journalist who wanted to ride with the Blue Angels. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Jan 09 10:03:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 27431 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2008 18:03:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jan 2008 18:03:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n50c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.184) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2008 18:03:35 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n50.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:03:35 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:03:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:03:35 -0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:03:33 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.184 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: MISC: On Stage now - Paradise Park X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=ErRXJFoYnZhmvLNr_GiuXMW63e856Yf30Man36qXPXtPhBg X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 "Paradise Park" BEGINS FEBRUARY 12! http://www.signaturetheatre.org/onstage.htm CAST: Vanessa Aspillaga, Satya Bhabha, Veanne Cox, Gian-Murray Gianino, William Jackson Harper, Christopher McCann, Paul Mullins, Alan Semok, Laurie Williams Welcome to Paradise Park, an amusement park that opens up into all of America and beyond. Meet the inhabitants of this bizarre carnival of life, including a ventriloquist, his dummy, and a teenage girl on the run. From Futureworld to Londonland, the Grand Canyon to Fred's Polynesian Dive Shop, step right up to this wild ride of fruit cake tosses, underwater ballets, square dances, and star gazing, too. Performance Schedule: February 12 - April 6, 2008 Tuesday at 7pm, Wednesday - Saturday at 8pm, Matinees Saturday & Sunday at 2pm No Performance February 24th in association with True Love Productions By Charles Mee Directed by Daniel Fish Choreography by Peter Pucci ------------- =A9 2006 - 2008 Signature Theatre Company From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Jan 09 10:21:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 20697 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2008 18:21:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jan 2008 18:21:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n24a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.234) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2008 18:21:09 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n24.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:21:09 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:21:09 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.92] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:21:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:21:06 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.234 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Water park slated to make big splash X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=a4LHGPuHyQLuTihPEOqUYrgtKq2Ix8Os8IKU3DRxUFOSbCs X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 9, 2008 The Ottawa Sun http://ottawasun.com/News/OttawaAndRegion/2008/01/09/4759729-sun.html By Terri Saunders OTTAWA, ONTERIO, CA -- The country's largest water park -- covering 460 acres along Hwy. 417 about 20 minutes east of Ottawa -- is slated to open in the summer of 2009. Sunnyland Amusement Resort is expected to boast more than 2-dozen water slides, a large wave pool and a 700-site campground. The project has been costed at $50 million and is expected to dump $75 million a year into the local economy. "I had the privilege of being one of the first people (the developers) approached when they were exploring different locations," said Jean-Marc Lalonde, MPP for Glengarry-Prescott-Russell. "I wasn't prepared to let them out of my sight once they described their plan." That plan calls for Le Groupe Village Vacances Valcartier to construct the massive complex just north of Hwy. 417, east of the Limoges Rd. exit in Nation Twp. The park is expected to draw 300,000 visitors in its first year and could peak at 12,000 per day when fully operational. -------------- Copyright =A9 2007, Canoe Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Jan 09 10:25:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71580 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2008 18:25:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jan 2008 18:25:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.128) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2008 18:25:37 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:25:37 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:25:37 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.201] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:25:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:25:36 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.128 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Six Flags 4Q Revenue Rises 7% X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=hrzIeDNmAbXl_s--AKUrlj_koQudFq0n20lof__iUODRDg4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 8, 2008 The Associated Press Yahoo! Finance http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080108/six_flags_revenue.html?.v=3D1 NEW YORK, NY -- Amusement-park operator Six Flags Inc. (6F) expects to slightly exceed its previous financial forecasts after reporting Tuesday that 4th-quarter revenue rose 7%, aided by a 4% increase in attendance. 6F said quarterly revenue climbed to about $111 million from $104 million last year, and attendance rose to 2.8 million from 2.7 million. Analysts expected revenue of $109 million, according to Thomson Financial. In November, 6F said it anticipates 2007 revenue between $965 million and $970 million. The company reported 2006 revenue of $945.7 million. 6F also said sales of season passes for 2008 through the end of December had "increased by a significant double-digit percentage." 6F shares rose 11 cents to $2.02 in premarket trading. ---------- Copyright =A9 2008 Yahoo! Inc. Copyright =A9 2008 The Associated Press From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Jan 09 10:29:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 20252 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2008 18:29:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jan 2008 18:29:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2008 18:29:45 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:29:45 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:29:45 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.195] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2008 18:29:45 -0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:29:45 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Website Shows Pyramid Proposal X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=jNw0TRfN8KB7RJTU8xPFXmCwQR6wIx_U9xncb16S9EQGQN4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 08 Jan 2008 Fox 13 News http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=3D5430510&ver= sion=3D1&locale=3DEN-US&layoutCode=3DTSTY&pageId=3D3.2.1 MEMPHIS, TN -- A new website shows off the plans for an amusement park at the Pyramid. http://pyramidharbor.com/index.htm It's a plan by a local group that wants a shot at redeveloping the Downtown landmark. The future of the Pyramid has been in limbo for a while now. The Greg Erikson Group wants to change that by developing the Pyramid Harbor. The online project features two major areas with themes called "Pyramid Resorts" and "Harbor Island." =20=20=20=20=20 The plan calls for a year-round theme park, upscale retail and dining locations. The website plans boasts of an outdoor amphitheater and 2 hotels. =20=20=20 Right now the city is waiting to see if Bass Pro Shops will ink a deal that will put them in the empty Tomb of Doom. ------------- TM and (c) 2007 Fox Television Stations, Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 10 07:42:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 77083 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2008 15:42:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2008 15:42:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n9.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.136) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2008 15:42:08 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n9.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2008 15:42:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2008 15:42:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.195] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2008 15:42:07 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:42:05 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Tokyo Disneyland cancels parades X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=illoF9oaidGtC7nlDT5_x6Gq52fgj59TZFzBhw0tVFvMFng X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan 9, 2008 The Associated Press Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080109/ap_on_re_as/disneyland_parade_canceled_= 1 By Hiroko Tabuchi URAYASU, CHIBA, JP -- Tokyo Disneyland (TDL) canceled its popular parades for the first time in its 25-year history Wednesday after a 660-pound steel pillar adorned with colorful planets tumbled from a Buzz Lightyear float. The pillar on the float, part of its popular Disney Dreams On Parade, crashed to the ground Tuesday afternoon =97 just yards away from children lined up to watch the twice-daily extravaganza at the theme park. There were screams but no injuries among visitors and the characters on the float, including Buzz, the hero from the 1995 Disney movie "Toy Story," according to the park's operator, Oriental Land Co. (OLC). But TDL is canceling its 2 daily parades while it carries out safety checks, the first time both events have been canceled since the park opened in 1983, according to OLc spokesman Tsutomu Kato. "We'd like to apologize for causing panic," Kato said. The accident came after visitors were evacuated after a small fire broke out on the roof of the Swiss Family Tree House attraction at TDL last week. Nobody was injured, and firefighters extinguished the flames an hour later. The park is investigating both accidents but doesn't yet know what caused them, according to Kato. TDL, the first Disney park to be built outside of the U.S., is one of 2 hugely popular theme parks OLC operates just outside of Tokyo. In 2007, 25.4 million people flocked to TDL and its sister attraction, Disneysea, both just outside the Japanese capital. ------------- Copyright =A9 2008 The Associated Press Copyright =A9 2008 Yahoo! Inc. From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Thu Jan 10 19:01:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65893 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2008 03:01:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jan 2008 03:01:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.60) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2008 03:01:47 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 58467 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2008 03:01:47 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: aVob6O0VM1nBTXgsIJHPZa5oz9bQds7HbMf6y3qi_6XImZS_Y3sPQzCOUUDV3X.OI9MmPSM2vJV29pN8KO96x5L.KaG1Uv0AbIqmW1yYQz1ifG.vCvIw9KX.6_DeT.Y9.IxzT6E6P7aXd40- X-Received: from [72.70.241.148] by web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:01:47 PST Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:01:47 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1199979726.2320.61898.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <259650.56636.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.60 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: NEWS: Six Flags 4Q Revenue Rises 7% X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=5XTaaIsEXsrbrrwdTzIuWZBILSJ9N9xeK9ucQ3TGGAuOU7BtGU7x X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 6F said quarterly revenue climbed to about $111 million from $104 million last year, and attendance rose to 2.8 million from 2.7 million. < I'm confused -- is this for the quarter or the entire year? 2,8 million people for an entire year seems pathetic for the chain. The Magic Kingdom alone does about 14 million visitors a year. > 6F shares rose 11 cents to $2.02 in premarket trading. < Yeehaw! Cash in those stocks! Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bethtoons@gmail.com Thu Jan 10 19:32:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: bethtoons@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 52713 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2008 03:32:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jan 2008 03:32:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO wa-out-1112.google.com) (209.85.146.181) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2008 03:32:01 -0000 X-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v33so1526910wah.2 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:32:01 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.114.176.1 with SMTP id y1mr3125698wae.86.1200022321105; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:32:01 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.114.205.10 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:32:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <74b0c9f30801101932w5a5075bt3a7ce902f23dd5ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:32:01 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <259650.56636.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1199979726.2320.61898.m45@yahoogroups.com> <259650.56636.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.85.146.181 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Beth Aslakson" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Six Flags 4Q Revenue Rises 7% X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=189987440; y=11aWLOuLCu9JqzIUV2zEvACtyNKJUnMxqe67Ty3RvJamk2ar X-Yahoo-Profile: bethtoons It's for the quarter On Jan 10, 2008 10:01 PM, Jay Ducharme wrote: > > 6F said quarterly revenue climbed to about $111 million from $104 > million last year, and attendance rose to 2.8 million from 2.7 million. < > > I'm confused -- is this for the quarter or the entire year? 2,8 million people for an entire year seems pathetic for the chain. The Magic Kingdom alone does about 14 million visitors a year. > > > 6F shares rose 11 cents to $2.02 in premarket trading. < > > Yeehaw! Cash in those stocks! > > Jay > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Don't forget our group site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RollerCoasterTalk > bookmarks, files, and more are all found there. > > Six years at Yahoo Groups, and many more before that! Spread the word about Roller Coaster Talk and help us to keep growing! > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 17:18:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 22631 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 01:18:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2008 01:18:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.53) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 01:18:24 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 29784 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2008 01:18:21 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: HjTuA5gVM1n1fpwoJf6HqwOVIHMqhvj4K9mIIraFQWMxyidU2NmVf3TS6qRUazLwIYZ2LGOZv5ZilDrbhDJe9aKQXUgBpbugRnV_m6q8qHS2i1vDzQ1MV8GIZXAlo2xr8R54kgRT6kKU7SU- X-Received: from [72.70.241.148] by web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:18:21 PST Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:18:21 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1200066530.2345.98171.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <151585.28830.qm@web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.53 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: NEWS: Six Flags 4Q Revenue Rises 7% X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=R9VvJONf7yr3hE5iA0XK41N-sQHu0ZnPBkXEUhRs0z7dzlaQZ-r7 X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It's for the quarter < Yeah, I figured it had to be. But I wouldn't put anything past Six Flags. :-) The big question of course is whether they'll be able to finally eat away at their huge debt load. Maybe once they pull themselves out of that mess, they'll actually start making money. Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. 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--YCalReminder=NzRLE3YSOj1CQQ1200120609-1-- From mathew_mcguire@yahoo.com Sat Jan 12 07:47:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: mathew_mcguire@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 85211 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 15:47:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2008 15:47:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n53c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.187) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 15:47:53 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n53.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2008 15:47:53 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2008 15:47:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2008 15:47:53 -0000 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:47:52 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.187 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 65.40.70.116 From: "Matt" Subject: Cedar Point plans Planet Snoopy X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=230130204; y=b0k8KGO3xulC8kCiQY8iQtX6lggnQZEpthCU2bZVu8Wr_0djThXceRo X-Yahoo-Profile: mathew_mcguire Cedar Point plans Planet Snoopy SANDUSKY -Part of $5.2 million in improvements this year for Cedar=20 Point amusement park are a new children's area called Planet Snoopy=20 and an extreme sports show in the former dolphin tank site, the=20 company said yesterday. Cedar Fair LP is making $88 million in improvements this year in its=20 Lake Erie park and other amusement and water parks nationwide. Some=20 of the projects were announcement in November, with few details. Planet Snoopy will occupy the former Berenstain Bears Country site=20 and feature seven rides that were at the former Geauga Lake park=20 near Cleveland. The new children's area will have games, a family center with=20 changing areas, and private areas where new mothers can feed their=20 infants. A new Peanuts restaurant featuring a children's only menu=20 will be added. The All Wheels Extreme show in the former aquatic stadium will=20 feature stunt bikers, skateboarders, and inline skaters performing=20 flips and other stunts. Cedar Point also said its Sandcastle Suites hotel will undergo a $3=20 million renovation over the next two years. Toledo Blade From buzzgok@verizon.net Sat Jan 12 08:33:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: buzzgok@verizon.net X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 77027 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 16:33:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2008 16:33:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web84311.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.74.190) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 16:33:54 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 33931 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2008 16:33:53 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 8va6yXkVM1mr07w85SiMCj9VsL5ufBkAlFrBnhgXLyvxfX_uHzY7cDYs82v1tOzRQQ-- X-Received: from [76.99.150.166] by web84311.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:33:53 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.158.1 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:33:53 -0800 (PST) To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <523692.30714.qm@web84311.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 69.147.74.190 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: SCOTT Subject: DorneyPark X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=275879843; y=A3c9cdKjHJHOi3jgDMFjfhUOtTv7ZUg577mV9Rg_rHFHY20G0Hlh_K-IYBWp3A X-Yahoo-Profile: westshore82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just went past DorneyPark yesterday and saw pieces of a rollercoaster laying in the parking lot. I didn't hear any announcements from Dorney as to what new ride they are putting in this year. Has anyone else heard something that I might have missed? Also, being that I work in Hershey, I go past the park everyday. The first pieces of the new coaster, Farenheit arrived this week. TEC #3802 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Briguy7568@aol.com Sat Jan 12 08:36:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Briguy7568@aol.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 72028 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 16:36:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2008 16:36:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m11.mail.aol.com) (64.12.143.99) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 16:36:40 -0000 X-Received: from Briguy7568@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.c66.26160f15 (41812) for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:36:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:36:09 EST To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.143.99 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Briguy7568@aol.com Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] DorneyPark X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3522502; y=seHa_pUR1i3FfuZOTwSIiSeKbwP1nZtUQflzw_I5g2HcJCA-7g X-Yahoo-Profile: briguy7568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's Voodoo, the new Intamin Impulse coaster. It's the old Steel Venom from Geauga Lake. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Sat Jan 12 12:46:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14860 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 20:46:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2008 20:46:22 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.156) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 20:46:22 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2008 20:46:22 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2008 20:46:22 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2008 20:46:22 -0000 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:46:19 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <523692.30714.qm@web84311.mail.re1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 138.89.128.156 From: "Mike Gallagher" Subject: Re: DorneyPark X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=vzAQW4NiCJTQfEzM7AubMAHVXDLPeL7jOgVtVfJXw-3H2p3QTZGR X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 Just to expand on Briguy's response..VOODOO will be located on the=20 midway between Laser and Monster, down by the kiddie rides. I already=20 have a VOODOO T-shirt! What color was the track? I wonder if it's been painted yet, or if the=20 color scheme will be the same as it was at Geauga...which I remember as=20 blah...I rode in '05, and I barely remember the color...I think black=20 and purple would be a nice combo.=20 Mike From josh.wozny@gmail.com Sat Jan 12 14:41:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 47873 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2008 22:41:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Jan 2008 22:41:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.182) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2008 22:41:41 -0000 X-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id x19so1963470pyg.24 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:41:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.139.9 with SMTP id r9mr10660918qbn.32.1200177700801; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:41:40 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.191.10 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:41:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0801121441x38d59c52iab09cd983464a1b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:41:40 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <523692.30714.qm@web84311.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.182 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: DorneyPark X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=KOPETkbDMbEG1k_cZvhFoEDt1ty10-DpqQyA2o5nVMNHRIsd5g X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Painting has commenced. It is Wicked Twister colors, with pink/yellow trains. Based on what a couple of people have said, they are traditional Mardi Gras colors symbolizing voodoo or something of that nature, I'm not entirely family so don't hold me to it. -Josh http://www.dorneypark.com/public/inside_park/rides/thrill_rides/voodoo/gallery/index.cfm?gallery_directory=voodoo&startRow=1&maxRow=111 My apologies if that link breaks. On Jan 12, 2008 3:46 PM, Mike Gallagher wrote: > Just to expand on Briguy's response..VOODOO will be located on the > midway between Laser and Monster, down by the kiddie rides. I already > have a VOODOO T-shirt! > > What color was the track? I wonder if it's been painted yet, or if the > color scheme will be the same as it was at Geauga...which I remember as > blah...I rode in '05, and I barely remember the color...I think black > and purple would be a nice combo. > > Mike > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Jan 14 08:35:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61020 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2008 16:35:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2008 16:35:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n25c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.216) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2008 16:35:07 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by n25.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2008 16:35:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.92] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2008 16:35:07 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:35:07 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <76e1ec0a0801121441x38d59c52iab09cd983464a1b9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.216 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: DorneyPark X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=GJNcpkFsCZiyvIZ9OIfDJgR3AlMrqQxFva59oW0uleRHlaQ X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Actually, Traditional Mardi Gras colors are Purple, Green & Gold. However, anything gaudi would probably work! -Alan --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Josh W" wrote: > > Painting has commenced. It is Wicked Twister colors, with pink/yellow > trains. Based on what a couple of people have said, they are traditional > Mardi Gras colors symbolizing voodoo or something of that nature, I'm not > entirely family so don't hold me to it. >=20 > -Josh From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Jan 14 08:42:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 34466 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2008 16:42:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2008 16:42:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.206) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2008 16:42:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n18.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2008 16:42:16 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.91] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2008 16:42:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:42:16 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.206 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: RUMOR: Hotel with integrated theme park planned for KK X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=dVEOtTyN02ppFqBf7ImQD4921kAaFmBIkvBfFMyVk82lY6o X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 14th, 2008 The Borneo Post http://www.theborneopost.com/?p=3D29704 By Joseph Sipalan KOTA KINABALU, SABAH, MALAYSIA -- The company that established the newly-opened KK Box entertainment outlet at Karamunsing Complex here is planning to build a hotel with an integrated theme park here. Rashid Kayum Khan, group director of Kuala Lumpur-based Total Metro Group, said they were currently discussing with the Tourism, Culture and Environment Ministry to build the ambitious project. "We believe the tourism potential here is very great. We are still in discussion with the ministry. Once that is settled, I think together we will start building this hotel within one year," he said at a press conference after the official opening of KK Box by Tourism, Culture and Environment Minister Datuk Masidi Manjun. Rashid, however, declined to reveal the location or the projected budget for the project, citing "strategic" considerations. He noted that the Group was also planning to open up two new hotels in the city to cater to the growing number of tourist arrivals here. "We have great confidence in the tourism industry here because the ministry has shown that it is very keen (to develop the industry)," he said. Masidi said that there was a ready market in Kota Kinabalu to support more entertainment outlets, on top of the spending power of the growing number of foreign tourists. "We have a large number in Kota Kinabalu that can afford to patronise entertainment outlets. "More often then not, you have people going out to places like Kuala Lumpur to patronise entertainment outlets, but if we can provide these services in Kota Kinabalu I don't see why they have to go out of the city," he said. Rashid meanwhile said that the Group expected to be able to recover its RM3.8 million investment in the KK Box outlet within 6 months. "We initially set the target to recover our cost within 8 months, but from the looks of things we may be able to do that in just 6 months. "Prior to the official opening we had our soft opening and over the 3 weeks our earnings had been beyond our expectations, so we are quite confident," he said. Rashid said that their target demographic breakdown would include 40% foreign tourists and 60% local patrons. ----------- Copyright 2008 =A9 The Borneo Post Sdn Bhd. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Jan 14 08:50:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94231 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2008 16:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2008 16:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n30a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.252) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2008 16:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n30.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2008 16:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2008 16:50:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2008 16:50:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:50:18 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.252 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Hong Kong wants Disney to bail out struggling park X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=1V0-scI2OdWBfT5gssKLDqzzrl2pXAOdToQIFT-wTCUVi6E X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 14 Jan 2008 Earth Times http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/173228,hong-kong-wants-disney-to-ba= il-out-struggling-park.html By DPA HONG KONG, CHINA -- 70% of Hong Kong (HK) residents believe that the city's troubled Disneyland (HKDL) theme park should expand to draw more visitors, a survey found Monday. However, the same percentage believe that Disney and not the HK government should pay for the expansion of the park, which has had disappointing visitor numbers. The survey by the HK Polytechnic University comes after HKDL had only about 4 million visitors in its 2nd year, down from a below-target 5.2 million in its 1st year of operations. In December, a HK senior government official publicly criticized the 2-y.o. theme park, which cost 3.5 billion US dollars, saying its performance was "not satisfactory." Secretary for Commerce and Economic Development Frederick Ma told legislators the government wanted to see urgent improvements at the park, which was largely funded by public money. HKDL has refused to release attendance figures for the 120-hectare park, citing commercial secrecy, but has admitted to falling short of financing targets. HKDL, the first Disney theme park in China, has been criticized for being too expensive and for being short on attractions compared to sister parks in Paris, Tokyo and the United States. ----------- (c) 2008 Earthtimes.org From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Jan 14 08:53:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12550 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2008 16:53:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2008 16:53:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n11e.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.71) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2008 16:53:57 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n21.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2008 16:53:57 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.201] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2008 16:53:57 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:53:55 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.71 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Siam Park for sale at Bt5billion X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=OrANqH2BSKZaN1a2rYHK7OmJxDK67yvwvUAWwrVkRyIz04s X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 14, 2008 The Nation http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=3D30062091 BANGKOK, THAILAND -- The owner of Siam Park offered to sell this 26-year-old theme park at Bt5billion. The offer came after the park's Super Spiral waterslide partially collapsed and injured dozens of children on the National Children's Day. A few months ago, a ride at the Siam Park also killed a woman and injured some other victims. The Siam Park spans over 300 rai of land with water park and many garden zones. The Bt5billion sale price include the whole park and all rides there. ---------- (c) 2007 www.nationmultimedia.com From josh.wozny@gmail.com Mon Jan 14 09:13:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18066 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2008 17:13:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2008 17:13:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO nz-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.162.239) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2008 17:13:19 -0000 X-Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i11so1060869nzi.20 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:13:18 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.201.1 with SMTP id y1mr3932158rvf.246.1200330798543; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:13:18 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.191.10 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:13:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0801140913h4c89915cn7758e690f76fa600@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:13:18 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <76e1ec0a0801121441x38d59c52iab09cd983464a1b9@mail.gmail.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.162.239 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: DorneyPark X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=HRv84cAEd2w1QPXU57SKomj7OHBFvXiG8ai9Y66SdrR6eO6_zA X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, purple, teal and yellow, I guess, are pretty close to purple, teal and gold. :-D The trains are actually purple, with pink stripes at the top. -Josh On Jan 14, 2008 11:35 AM, Alan wrote: > Actually, > Traditional Mardi Gras colors are Purple, Green & Gold. However, > anything gaudi would probably work! > > -Alan > > > --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, > "Josh W" wrote: > > > > Painting has commenced. It is Wicked Twister colors, with pink/yellow > > trains. Based on what a couple of people have said, they are traditional > > Mardi Gras colors symbolizing voodoo or something of that nature, > I'm not > > entirely family so don't hold me to it. > > > > -Josh > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From m.e.cowan@gmail.com Mon Jan 14 11:45:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: m.e.cowan@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 15918 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2008 19:45:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2008 19:45:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.175) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2008 19:45:39 -0000 X-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so1185827ugf.13 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:45:38 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.248.5 with SMTP id v5mr4175203ugh.17.1200339938449; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:45:38 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.218.19 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:45:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ab4641f0801141145h5fcff0acw5f1a90291a681a14@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:45:38 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <76e1ec0a0801140913h4c89915cn7758e690f76fa600@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <76e1ec0a0801121441x38d59c52iab09cd983464a1b9@mail.gmail.com> <76e1ec0a0801140913h4c89915cn7758e690f76fa600@mail.gmail.com> X-Originating-IP: 66.249.92.175 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Michael Cowan" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: DorneyPark X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=284040117; y=oIZuqSmeY6jZCOZ3jTrhlBEQUwXiy-sqxT-ByWAG6COyru8 X-Yahoo-Profile: mike_ska Terrible color scheme for a ride named voodoo, I don't care what the reasoning behind it is. With a logo of that caliber I would expect slightly 'darker' colors. But hey, can't complain about a new ride! -mike From buzzgok@verizon.net Mon Jan 14 17:49:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: buzzgok@verizon.net X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94345 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2008 01:49:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2008 01:49:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web84312.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.74.191) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2008 01:49:03 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 55696 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2008 01:49:03 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 94zTG6sVM1kmggspS59Xod1NTfEbvzSqCk_EmCcX4qONl8inijnJit9ABtGzEA56Rg-- X-Received: from [76.99.150.166] by web84312.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:49:03 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.158.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:49:03 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <151733.54897.qm@web84312.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 69.147.74.191 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: SCOTT Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: DorneyPark X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=275879843; y=yTiVgUVTz-01DVLv92OMBDlDQqNZzDUc_Rphy0OxN63iFoLJFpjtZNa14PxCmw X-Yahoo-Profile: westshore82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The track sections that I saw, looked yellow. TEC #3802 ----- Original Message ---- From: Josh W To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:13:18 PM Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: DorneyPark Well, purple, teal and yellow, I guess, are pretty close to purple, teal and gold. :-D The trains are actually purple, with pink stripes at the top. -Josh On Jan 14, 2008 11:35 AM, Alan wrote: > Actually, > Traditional Mardi Gras colors are Purple, Green & Gold. However, > anything gaudi would probably work! > > -Alan > > > --- In RollerCoasterTalk@ yahoogroups. com, > "Josh W" wrote: > > > > Painting has commenced. It is Wicked Twister colors, with pink/yellow > > trains. Based on what a couple of people have said, they are traditional > > Mardi Gras colors symbolizing voodoo or something of that nature, > I'm not > > entirely family so don't hold me to it. > > > > -Josh > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From josh.wozny@gmail.com Mon Jan 14 19:32:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18126 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2008 03:32:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2008 03:32:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.178) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2008 03:31:59 -0000 X-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a73so2659996pye.22 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:31:59 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.156.2 with SMTP id i2mr16186350qbo.60.1200367918729; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:31:58 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.191.10 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:31:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0801141931n65bee89frba3a7d45873f98ac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:31:58 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <151733.54897.qm@web84312.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <151733.54897.qm@web84312.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.178 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: DorneyPark X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=aT7MlAZ92I8CUxJt5IU12IqgncpcyVI18TeOTsZydhwi_XWFPA X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, Wicked Twister colors. The track is yellow, the supports are teal-green. The only thing that's very different is the train, and that is purple, yellow and pink. -Josh On Jan 14, 2008 8:49 PM, SCOTT wrote: > The track sections that I saw, looked yellow. > > TEC > #3802 > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Josh W > > To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:13:18 PM > Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: DorneyPark > > Well, purple, teal and yellow, I guess, are pretty close to purple, teal > and > gold. :-D > > The trains are actually purple, with pink stripes at the top. > > -Josh > > On Jan 14, 2008 11:35 AM, Alan wrote: > > > Actually, > > Traditional Mardi Gras colors are Purple, Green & Gold. However, > > anything gaudi would probably work! > > > > -Alan > > > > > > --- In RollerCoasterTalk@ yahoogroups. com 40yahoogroups. com>, > > "Josh W" wrote: > > > > > > Painting has commenced. It is Wicked Twister colors, with pink/yellow > > > trains. Based on what a couple of people have said, they are > traditional > > > Mardi Gras colors symbolizing voodoo or something of that nature, > > I'm not > > > entirely family so don't hold me to it. > > > > > > -Josh > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From keek16@hotmail.com Mon Jan 14 23:18:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: keek16@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45803 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2008 07:18:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2008 07:18:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n52b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.166) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2008 07:18:55 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n52.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 07:18:55 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 07:18:55 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 07:18:55 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:18:52 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.166 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 58.64.89.100 From: "keekcontrast" Subject: Re: NEWS: Siam Park for sale at Bt5billion X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=161713400; y=bB3_jWnGx_rAvSdKU1xEfh88VYrUEFenhgkwOyzfo-N9rSmPLYQd X-Yahoo-Profile: keekcontrast --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" =20 wrote: > > January 14, 2008 > The Nation > http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php? newsid=3D30062091 >=20 >=20 > BANGKOK, THAILAND -- The owner of Siam Park offered to sell this > 26-year-old theme park at Bt5billion. The offer came after the park's > Super Spiral waterslide partially collapsed and injured dozens of > children on the National Children's Day. >=20 > A few months ago, a ride at the Siam Park also killed a woman and > injured some other victims. >=20 > The Siam Park spans over 300 rai of land with water park and many > garden zones. The Bt5billion sale price include the whole park and all > rides there. > ---------- > (c) 2007 www.nationmultimedia.com > here is web site of Siam park=20 http://www.siamparkcity.com Siam park city just operating VORTEX(Vekoma's SLC) for half year. i'm really pity that they sell. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 15 08:09:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 38187 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2008 16:09:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2008 16:09:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2008 16:09:05 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 16:09:05 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 16:09:05 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.75] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 16:09:05 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:09:04 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Chaiwat has several options for Siam Park X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=8zecpWEdvdDHDNhdyFqpcOCJTvTgEN-ZkP6ZZlVVTXkVQpE X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 15, 2008 The Bangkok Post http://www.bangkokpost.com/Business/15Jan2008_biz30.php By Pittsinee Jitpleecheep and Woranuj Maneerungsee BANGKOK, THAILAND -- Chaiwat Luangamornlert, the founder of the country's pioneering amusement park Siam Park, has confirmed his intentions to exit the business following last Saturday's accident that injured 28 children. Chaiwat announced over the weekend that he would sell the amusement park after a water slide broke, sending many children to the ground below. "In the entire 28 years (of running the park), I have confronted many obstacles but I never gave up," Chaiwat, 70, said with a quivering voice. One family member said Chaiwat burst into tears when he said he would sell the business on which he had built his family fortune. Chaiwat's dream of bringing joy to children has turned into a nightmare over the past year. Just last October, the Indiana Log ride malfunctioned, killing 1 person and injuring 5. "My time is over," he said. "Perhaps I am too old to carry on. I was successful in building Siam Park as Asia's largest amusement park, but failed to make the visitors happy." Chaiwat said some investors had expressed interest in buying the park, but no one had approached him officially. If the company can sell the property, he said, it would use the proceeds to buy investment funds that would go to help underprivileged children. The price tag for Siam Park is believed to be about 5.5 billion baht. Last year, the company's revenue was 300 million baht with 10 million in net profit. The park drew about 1.5 million visitors last year and has 300 staff. Chaiwat said he hoped to sell everything on the 300-rai land plot. But if the company can only sell the attractions, it would turn the land into a property development. Chaiwat has been involved in property development since he was 26 y.o. Some of his developments include the Chor Amornphand and Thiensuan housing projects. The property business would be left for Chaiwat's 4 children, while he would focus only on setting up a foundation to help children. "It is unnecessary for my children to run a business under the family. Now, they are free to do anything they wish," he said. The family has developed several projects in Bangkok. It previously planned to build a luxury hotel and villa project on a 30-rai plot land in Rayong, but now it will only sell individual land plots and offer house construction services. The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration has closed the park's water slide for 15 days for a safety inspection. The rest of the theme park would remain open to the public as usual. After last year's accidents at Siam Park, the company closely inspected the attractions and increased manpower during the holiday season to restore the confidence of visitors. Siam Park had 3rd-party liability insurance with Bangkok Insurance for 500,000 baht per accident per person. The insurance covers loss of life and medical expenses, but excluded coverage for equipment wreckage. Amphol Suthiphein, assistant managing director of Amusement Creation Co, the operator of the Dream World theme park, admitted that Dream World's owner was entering into talks with Chaiwat for the park. Negotiations would take a while to finalise because the deal was quite big with many details to work out. Amphon said he believed that Siam Park was quite an interesting business since it was the only large water park in Thailand. The stagnant economy caused visitor numbers at Siam Park to drop last year, but it was in the process of investing in new attractions costing about 280 million baht, in the hope that visitor numbers would return to the same level as in 2006, at about 2-million. ------------ =A9 Copyright The Post Publishing Public Co., Ltd. 2008 From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 15 08:17:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 77776 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2008 16:17:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2008 16:17:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n32b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.212) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2008 16:17:21 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n32.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 16:17:21 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 16:17:21 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.85] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 16:17:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:17:19 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.212 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Santa Clara council poised to OK talks on stadium X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=tsStsYD74v9zAjAvklmpG_x4fmFcHYZWAXduuxjuKatGaQQ X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 15, 2008 San Francisco Chronicle http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=3D/c/a/2008/01/15/BAR4UC5TC.DTL= &feed=3Drss.bayarea By John Cot=E9 SANTA CLARA, CA -- The Santa Clara City Council appears to be ready to approve formal negotiations with the San Francisco 49ers on building a stadium on city land now used as parking lots for the Great America (GA) amusement park. The vote, scheduled for Tuesday, would advance a $916 million stadium project that still faces significant hurdles. They include a $51 million gap between what the city says it can pay and what the 49ers would like it to contribute, and opposition from the company that owns GA. At least 2 City Council members are calling for the deal to go before voters, probably in June or November. City Manager Jennifer Sparacino has recommended moving forward with negotiations, while noting there are "many outstanding issues requiring resolution." At least 4 members of the 7-member council have indicated they will go ahead. "I think we need to take the next step," said Councilman Dominic Caserta, "which is looking at their proposal, getting a term sheet, putting things down in writing. ... The public can decide if this is a good move with public money. I think it is." City voters should have the final say, Caserta said. The City Council is scheduled to consider a possible initiative at its Jan. 22 meeting if members vote tonight to approve negotiations. "Whatever we decide to do, we need to take it to the voters," Caserta said. "This is a lot of public money." City officials put the total cost of the project at $916 million - $854 million to build a 68,000-seat stadium, plus $62 million to move an electricity substation at the site and build a garage for the stadium. The 49ers have asked the city to contribute $222 million. Of that, $160 million would go toward the stadium, and the rest would pay for the garage and for relocating the substation. A feasibility report on the project, drawn up by city staffers, says Santa Clara can come up with $136 million from money on hand and by taxing future development. An additional $35 million would be raised through a hotel tax, for a total of $171 million - or $51 million less than the team is asking. "That's it. That's all we can do," Deputy City Manager Carol McCarthy said. "Now we have to ask, can the 49ers do the project for less, or can they come up with alternate funding?" Peter Hillan, a 49ers spokesman, said it was premature to discuss those options before the City Council voted. "There is a gap there, but we think that it's close enough, given the scope of the project, that it's something we can work out in negotiations," Hillan said. "Presuming we get the approval." Councilwoman Jamie McCleod declined to say how she would vote. She said she is dissatisfied with the current proposal, including the expectation it would siphon $5 million from affordable housing funds and questioned whether it would produce quality jobs for Santa Clara residents. A city consultant predicts the project would create 515 jobs at the stadium and 710 more jobs in retail or entertainment at the site. "There are other projects that could have a much higher return on our investment and have much higher salaries," McCleod said. "These 515 jobs we're looking at creating pay an average of $33,000 a year, which is below the poverty line in our area. If we go forward creating those, we would be lacking foresight." City officials estimate the stadium would generate about $19 million for the city's general fund over the 30-year life of the stadium lease but would cost its redevelopment agency $90 million. "Is this the best investment?" McCleod said. "That argument hasn't been made to me at all." The proposed hotel tax increase would boost the levy for guests to 11.5% from the current 9.5%. So far, hotels have not objected. One neighbor, however, is not so keen on the stadium idea. Cedar Fair (CF), the company that owns GA, sent a letter to the City Council in December saying it opposed building a stadium on its main parking lot, which is on land leased from the city. That land is the 49ers' first choice for a stadium site. The team has said it would consider building the stadium on an adjacent parking lot that serves as GA's overflow lot. CF says if that happens, it wants unilateral control over stadium scheduling during GA's season. It also wants all parking revenue from the property, including that from stadium events. GA would also close on all 49ers home dates, and CF wants to be reimbursed for unearned revenue on those days. The cost estimates in Santa Clara's feasibility study don't appear to include the expense of meeting CF's demands, company spokesman David Hyams said. "We want to make sure the city is considering all the potential costs," he said. --------------- =A9 2008 Hearst Communications Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 15 08:30:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 82808 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2008 16:30:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2008 16:30:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n32b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.212) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2008 16:30:21 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n32.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 16:30:21 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 16:30:21 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.73] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2008 16:30:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:30:21 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.212 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Clementon Park gets a facelift X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=0th76_8fb_Ihj6puA0Y1QM6DpINk5Z66Ys6i1UXIG8NR_GA X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 13, 2008 Gloucester County Times New Jersey On-Line http://www.nj.com/news/gloucester/local/index.ssf?/base/news-8/120021272027= 7150.xml&coll=3D8 By John Barna CLEMENTON, NJ -- 7 decades ago, the operators of Clementon Lake Amusement Park bragged in newsprint ads they were the "largest" such facility in South Jersey. Clementon, today, is still the largest amusement park in South Jersey. It is also the only one. Where Clementon had approximately 20 local competitors including Alcyon Lake Park in Pitman and Riverview Beach Park in Pennsville Township back when it ran a 1938 advertising campaign, today the closest merry-go-round and roller coaster are 60 miles away at Six Flags (6F) and several parks dotting the Jersey shore. Entering its 2d century of existence, the park is undergoing a makeover at the hands of new owners. Adrenaline Family Entertainment 3 principals are veterans of the 6F company has acquired the Camden County park and is promising a new look when it opens Memorial Day weekend. Customers will see a new appearance "the minute they show up on the parking lot," promised David Dorman, the GM. The parking lot itself is being repaved. There will be a new entrance and a Victorian-themed main street area. The menus will be updated. The picnic pavilions adjacent to the signature J2 roller coaster already sport a new look. "First impressions are very important," Dorman suggested. A new attraction Laguna Kaguna will be added to the Splash World part of what officially will be known as Clementon Park and Splash World. The 1-acre expansion will include 10 slides, 8 water play platforms and some 125 sprays, jets, bubbles, streams and waterfalls. Look at the top of the 50' platform, Dorman suggested. "There will be a 422-gallon tipping bucket" that will dump its contents on guests every "4-5 minutes." Exactly when will be part of the fun, Dorman said. 2 older rides the Falling Star and Chaos have been removed and the arcade building demolished to make room for the new water attraction. A park staple the Jack Rabbit coaster was ripped out 3 weeks ago. The coaster was taken out of service in 2002 after it failed a state inspection. However, the tracks remained. "We will use that space for future expansion," Dorman said. Adrenaline is projecting "350-400,000" guests this season, compared to an average attendance in recent years of 250,000 under the Baker family. Dorman noted the park will be open 115 days this year 34 more than a year ago. The park will operate on weekends into the fall, with a Halloween theme common at many amusement parks. For Adrenaline, Clementon is its first investment. "There is a strategy of acquiring 10-12 parks in the next 3-4 years," said Dorman. The idea is to acquire "smaller parks with large potential located in major metropolitan markets." Dorman has 21 years in the amusement park business, including 15 at 6F. CEO Hugh Eichelberger was an executive VP for 6F. CFO Russell Kutman was a 6F VP of corporate finance. "I'm joining trusted former colleagues," Dorman observed. The GM will live on site. The park includes the Gibbs Mansion, one of the first houses to be built in town. When Clementon opened in 1907, it was not uncommon for a house to be part of the grounds, Dorman noted. Clementon's origins date to 1906 when a hand-operated aerial wave ride debuted, according to the book "Early South Jersey Amusement Parks," on file in the Gloucester County Historical Society. The park went full time in 1907 the same year a trolley line was extended 6 miles from Haddon Heights into Clementon. That gave residents of Philadelphia and Camden access to the park. A 40' diving tower was added in 1915. The Jack Rabbit it cost $80,000 arrived in 1919. A Pretzel Ride a dark attraction with sudden turns and built in Bridgeton debuted during the Depression. The Gibbs family operated the park until 1915 when the sons of Theodore Gibbs formed the Clementon Park Association with several businessmen. The Baker family acquired the park in 1977 a season after the park was threatened with closure. Dorman suggested while Clementon should be a haven for local families hopefully convinced by the value of a $50 season pass it will market itself to those living within up to a day's travel. --------------- =A9 2008 Gloucester County Times =A9 2008 New Jersey On-Line LLC. From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Tue Jan 15 17:52:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 74288 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2008 01:52:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jan 2008 01:52:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53106.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.56) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2008 01:52:55 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 26565 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jan 2008 01:52:49 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: XBffDagVM1mgq5PE1HW5dTIkJeX6XkbgI8SrBeqYMmdrgMf4W4usqXhd7jt3Rr1ehw-- X-Received: from [72.70.241.148] by web53106.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:52:49 PST Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:52:49 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1200418941.2610.92386.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <133961.25283.qm@web53106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.56 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: NEWS: Clementon Park gets a facelift X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=Eb8O2vVF_pvp6qtmTqbTeB3Q_B15YPrYjfgo5OW8B3swtTsNik1f X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > A park staple the Jack Rabbit coaster was ripped out 3 weeks ago. The coaster was taken out of service in 2002 after it failed a state inspection.< I don't understand this. A coaster doesn't need to be torn down if it fails a state inspection. It was the oldest Miller coaster in the U.S. I wish it had gotten a Historic Landmark status. Jay, who never went to Clementon, always wanted to and now never will. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Tue Jan 15 18:05:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 58581 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2008 02:05:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jan 2008 02:05:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n50c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.184) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2008 02:05:44 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n50.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2008 02:05:44 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2008 02:05:44 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2008 02:05:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:05:43 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <133961.25283.qm@web53106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.184 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 138.89.128.156 From: "Mike Gallagher" Subject: Re: NEWS: Clementon Park gets a facelift X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=EQbCoMq07xbhZMnktJt6lNyIn9rrqzClqdjeyrtKtCP4WgY9JGvW X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 -- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, Jay Ducharme=20 wrote: > > > A park staple the Jack Rabbit coaster was ripped out 3 weeks ago.=20 The coaster was taken out of service in 2002 after it failed a state > inspection.< >=20 > I don't understand this. A coaster doesn't need to be torn down if=20 it fails a state inspection. It was the oldest Miller coaster in the=20 U.S. I wish it had gotten a Historic Landmark status. >=20 > Jay, who never went to Clementon, always wanted to and now never=20 will. >=20 >I visited Clementon for the first and only time in '06. J2 was a=20 great ride, too short, but it was sad to wait on line for it and see=20 the sorry condition of the closed Jack Rabbit, overgrown with weeds,=20 boards loose, paint peeling. A ride op told me it might re-open, but=20 that never happened. I was surprised to read in this release that it=20 was out of service since '02, if I read it right. I didn't know it=20 was out of commission for 4 years at that point. I understand J2's=20 name will be changed to PUMA...definitely an animal everyone=20 associates with my home state(he said sarcastically.) I'm surprised=20 that fact wasn't mentioned in this release. I'd go back..it's a nice=20 atmosphere, a great flume ride, and the additions might enhance an=20 already better-than-average waterpark. Mike G.=20 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo!=20 Search. >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From Briguy7568@aol.com Wed Jan 16 12:30:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Briguy7568@aol.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3145 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2008 20:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jan 2008 20:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m22.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.3) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2008 20:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from Briguy7568@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.bd9.27f2c155 (29672) for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:30:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:30:26 EST To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Briguy7568@aol.com Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Clementon Park gets a facelift X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3522502; y=XbMu0hEuK0mdsGeBvr04hG_TDEyE00orDErW0zmYOxFaDzTE5Q X-Yahoo-Profile: briguy7568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/15/2008 9:05:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, sonbeast1964@yahoo.com writes: A park staple the Jack Rabbit coaster was ripped out 3 weeks ago. The coaster was taken out of service in 2002 after it failed a state > inspection.< > > I don't understand this. A coaster doesn't need to be torn down if it fails a state inspection. It was the oldest Miller coaster in the U.S. I wish it had gotten a Historic Landmark status. > I was hoping Dick Knoebel would have bought this classic coaster and moved it, like he did The Rocket from San Antonio. It wouldn't have had that far to go, really, in comparison to how far The Rocket traveled to get there. The Rocket was closed for a lot longer time frame than Jack Rabbit. If that coaster was able to be resurrected, I don't know why that one couldn't be. It's really sad to see all these wonderful old classic coasters that are a part of true American history being wiped away from America's landscape, and out of your lives. But, they will always be in our hearts and memories. 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--YCalReminder=PjgZOSfPvDXUeGKTYtG0mF6gBDmJX1200552607-1-- From gburnash@earthlink.net Thu Jan 17 05:17:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: gburnash@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 73154 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2008 13:17:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2008 13:17:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (209.86.89.63) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2008 13:17:41 -0000 X-Received: from pool-71-122-141-63.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.122.141.63] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JFUcj-0000W7-Jd for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:17:37 -0500 Message-ID: <478F54DA.4020207@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:15:06 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: <1200552611.9.63780.m56@yahoogroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1200552611.9.63780.m56@yahoogroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95f3a1acbbcf5638846e115e3e8cf45574bf435c0eb9d4782aa7e4ca26bfcccffccb98255e98484f2bd47b5706ebeb08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.89.63 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: george burnash Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Anniversary Reminder X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=115345197; y=yxWIFZWX8wgc5DAcaoPh8cQoSl5HaW9IjWuYJNhx__zoYF0 X-Yahoo-Profile: gburnash RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Title: Boardwalk and Baseball closed > > Date: Thursday January 17, 2008 > Time: All Day > Repeats: This event repeats every year. > Location: Haines City, Florida > Notes: On this date in 1990, Boardwalk and Baseball closed it's > doors for good, taking with it the Florida Hurricane and Zoomerang > roller coasters. Boardwalk and Baseball opened in 1974 as "Circus World > Showcase". In later years, it also took on the names "Ringling Brothers > Barnum & Bailey Circus World" and "Circus World". Just in case anyone is interested on this one, the site of the park is, literally, a mile and a half and just across the freeway from where I now live. The Target store there is set to open in March, with Best Buy, JC Penny's, Books a Million, and a bunch of other stores all following in the next couple of months after that. It's really sad to have lost the park, I would have liked to have seen it when it wasn't an abandoned dirt field (which it was when we arrived here), but as a local I can say that the shopping is desperately needed, as it's 20 miles to closest bookstore, and outside of a WalMart 10 miles away there's nothing else close to most of those in this area. keep on ridin' George From gburnash@earthlink.net Thu Jan 17 05:21:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: gburnash@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79288 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2008 13:21:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2008 13:21:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (209.86.89.65) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2008 13:21:04 -0000 X-Received: from pool-71-122-141-63.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.122.141.63] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JFUg2-000817-TB for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:21:03 -0500 Message-ID: <478F55A7.1040307@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:18:31 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95f3a1acbbcf5638846e115e3e8cf45574bf435c0eb9d4782aa7e4ca26bfcccfda0e6f34e1e689ff73f68fb83e2a8886350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.89.65 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: george burnash Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Clementon Park gets a facelift X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=115345197; y=Oc5i22Y8grCLvRE4LYmyTOnWUfkaMt6R0evQsG_WD8Tdmn4 X-Yahoo-Profile: gburnash Briguy7568@aol.com wrote: > A park staple the Jack Rabbit coaster was ripped out 3 weeks ago. > The coaster was taken out of service in 2002 after it failed a state > > inspection.< > > > > I don't understand this. A coaster doesn't need to be torn down if > it fails a state inspection. It was the oldest Miller coaster in the > U.S. I wish it had gotten a Historic Landmark status. > > > > I was hoping Dick Knoebel would have bought this classic coaster and moved > it, like he > did The Rocket from San Antonio. I'm obviously not a local or an expert, but from what I've heard from a couple of locals who were a little familiar with it, or rather what I read online, there really wasn't much to save, relocate, etc. I read that the vast majority of the coaster was rotted, falling apart, and generally an unsafe eyesore. The real tragedy happened years ago when they didn't give it the basic maintenance that it needed to ensure it's safe operation and existence, and allowed it to get into such a sorry state that it couldn't be fixed up or saved. keep on ridin' George From Cyclonic07@aol.com Thu Jan 17 05:39:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Cyclonic07@aol.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 52136 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2008 13:39:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2008 13:39:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d05.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.37) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2008 13:39:09 -0000 X-Received: from Cyclonic07@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.bb8.1d6bb4d8 (37224) for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:38:47 -0500 (EST) X-Received: from [192.168.1.101] (c-68-42-10-171.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.42.10.171]) by cia-ma06.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA063-9168478f5a6623c; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:38:46 -0500 Message-ID: <478F5A66.1030600@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:38:46 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 68.42.10.171 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.37 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Nathan Brown Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Clementon Park gets a facelift X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=169705679; y=n1BcjPUMey8FtxEeP5Qqov-WpG4iIPldX2JzT4Ra8dfveo5nlQ X-Yahoo-Profile: black7.geo Briguy7568@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/15/2008 9:05:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > sonbeast1964@yahoo.com writes: > > A park staple the Jack Rabbit coaster was ripped out 3 weeks ago. > The coaster was taken out of service in 2002 after it failed a state > >> inspection.< >> >> I don't understand this. A coaster doesn't need to be torn down if >> > it fails a state inspection. It was the oldest Miller coaster in the > U.S. I wish it had gotten a Historic Landmark status. > > > > > I was hoping Dick Knoebel would have bought this classic coaster and moved > it, like he > did The Rocket from San Antonio. It wouldn't have had that far to go, > really, in comparison to > how far The Rocket traveled to get there. The Rocket was closed for a lot > longer time frame than > Jack Rabbit. If that coaster was able to be resurrected, I don't know why > that one couldn't be. It's > really sad to see all these wonderful old classic coasters that are a part > of true American history > being wiped away from America's landscape, and out of your lives. But, they > will always be in our > hearts and memories. > > Brian, who says, Long live The Big Dipper and Screechin Eagle! > Actually, Lenny Adams did an inspection of the coaster a few years ago, though there was never talk of Knoebels or anyone else buying it. Larry Baker had offered the coaster to ACE if they would pay to move it, but the coaster was just in too bad of condition. The uprights, which are the most valuable pieces of wood when a coaster is moved, were all rotted out, they had been put directly in the ground, which was the way coasters were built at the time. The entire thing was a mess and there really was no saving it. -- Nathan Brown AKA Cyclonic Penncoasters.com The Insensitivity rolls on... Proud moral supporter of the Natty Bumppo Tahiti Letterboxing Project. McCarthy was RIGHT! From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 17 07:54:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 96314 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2008 15:53:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2008 15:53:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.59) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2008 15:53:59 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n18.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2008 15:53:59 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2008 15:53:59 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:53:58 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.59 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: MISC: Cypress Gardens landscape manager is in her element X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=nwezNUya-mUwRnXr43FIrMjuMjoUd6DBtU-8eK1TRDD_ffo X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 14, 2008 News Chief Polk Online http://www.polkonline.com/stories/011408/communitynews_landscape.shtml By Kelly Mitchell and Joe Braddy WINTER HAVEN, FL -- Cypress Gardens Adventure Park (CG), Florida's historic attraction, appeals to many people on many different levels and for many different reasons. There are the world-famous ski shows, which have been thrilling audiences since World War II. There are the genteel and hoop-skirted Southern Belles, who greet guests with friendly smiles and don't mind at all when they're asked to be included in a photograph. There are the millions of dollars worth of rollercoasters and other rides, which help put the "adventure" in Adventure Park. And then there are the flowers - lots and lots of colorful and assorted flowers - joining other plants and topiaries and trees that delight visitors daily. After all, CG started out in 1936 as and continues to be, first and foremost, a great big garden. That's where Jackie Braymiller comes in. As landscape manager for CG, Braymiller is in charge of designing the flower beds, ordering supplies, running the landscaping crew, organizing tours, setting up classes and "everything" associated with the natural look of the park. Her bosses, new park owners Rob Harper & Brian Philpot, call her a "perfectionist" and say it with the utmost respect and admiration for her knowledge, skill and creativity. The News Chief caught up with Braymiller for a brief interview Thursday evening. The following is what she had to say about the Gardens, its future and the new management. News Chief: So you've been with CG for a year? Jackie: Um-hmm. Yep. News Chief: Tell us where it came from and where you've taken it? Jackie: OK. The first thing we did was, we rebuilt the water park (landscaping) and then we did sections of the park - redid it. They were having everything done (by an outside contractor), then we slowly, after I was working on those projects, in May they switched it over to in-house and then I took over with the crew I had built from the other projects, you know, while they were still here. So then we just tried to work our way around the park cleaning it, and trimming things back, and fertilizing it and just trying to get it back to the way it used to be. And more maintained and more groomed and more fertilizer. That's mostly what we were trying to do. News Chief: What was the shape of CG when you came in, in January (2007)? Jackie: It was just ... I think it the difference in a contractor doing it is, that maybe they can't put as much time into it as with if you do it in-house. News Chief: So, a contractor was doing it before? Jackie: A contractor was doing it before and where you can do more - even for the money, you can do more things, buy more product, if you aren't outsourcing it - if you're doing it in-house. So, we could buy more flowers and stuff like that. News Chief: When you came in, did you have a plan of what you wanted CG to look like? Jackie: Mostly to look at pictures and get it back to the way it used to be and then play off that. But just ... increase the flowers. Get the topiaries back out because there's only like half of them out here. And just to get more topiaries out, that was always the goal. And just to have it look maintained all the time to its utmost. That is probably the goal. News Chief: When you say getting it back to where it used to be, what kind of time frame are you looking at. What was "used to be"? When was "used to be"? Jackie: What was used to be was probably about 20 (years ago), well, when Anheuser Busch used to have it (ownership of the park). They just had their own greenhouses and they had just acres and acres of flowers. And I don't know if we can go to that many flowers, but we need to enlarge in the beds and get it bigger. And just have it when you come here for its gardens and you're going to say "Wow!" You know? You've got something to look at. There's more color and that's what they had back then. News Chief: With the new management (Orlando-based Baker Leisure Group), have you talked about where you want to take CG? Jackie: Again, it's probably back to the way it was when Busch had it. The way people remember the park being when they came here instead of being disappointed. A lot come here and they are disappointed. Where are all the flowers? So, they just want more attention to detail, bigger beds, more flowers, more containers. Also, more classes, more tours, educational programs. That's what we're trying to get. And to be the place people come to if people have questions on gardening. Where would they go? They would go to CG to find the answers. We have the knowledge here to answer any questions. And we want to take what people see commercially and show them how to do it, buy the product, and how they can do it at home. News Chief: When do you offer classes? Jackie: The first time we're going to be offering tours and classes a lot more will be January, no, Feb. 22 is our Festival of Flowers that we're having. It's going to run for about 5 weeks and we will have classes on pruning, classes on topiaries and how you can make them at home, butterfly gardening, annuals and perennials. And so we'll have classes every day on those subjects, with handouts and showing people how to do it, like a demonstration. And then we'll be also increasing our tours. Those will run 7 days a week. All those things will be going, the tours and everything, increasing them in the botanical gardens. News Chief: Are there any big changes with the new management? Anything that affects you personally or your staff? Jackie: Their big thing is to make sure we have the tools that we need to do the job, so they're asking us "What do you need?" And then they're giving us the funds to buy our tools and they're giving us the funds for our materials, our labor, just the tools we need to do our job, and it's not such a struggle. News Chief: Was it a struggle before? Jackie: A big struggle. Big struggle. There just wasn't ... I think it was maybe because they knew they were going to sell the park. They just stopped the spending, so the 4 months before the park was sold we couldn't work on our topiaries, just about everything. News Chief: Before that? Before that 4-month period? Jackie: They tried to give us the funds and everything. News Chief: But now? Jackie: It's like night and day. It's just like night and day. They're giving it their all. They're going to do everything they can to make this go. They're cleaning up behind the scenes. Nothing can be a mess. They've hired a crew just to go behind the scenes and we have to "weed-eat" and clean anything that doesn't look good ... everything has to be cleaned up. News Chief: So, personal theory on the new management? Jackie: If they can't do it, nobody can? That's my feelings. That's the first thing I can think of. If they can't do it, nobody can, because they're giving it everything they've got. And also asking about employees. Focusing on the employees is what is going to get the word out, so they're starting off with this party tonight, introducing themselves and having not just pizza but a lovely meal cooked by our chef and prizes for the guys, and then they're asking us managers how we can make our employees happier. They want happy, smiling employees for the guests. News Chief: How do you think you can make your employees happier? Jackie: I think they're happy. Just tools to do their job and knowing that everybody is trying to make the park be better so that's just something that gets you pumped up to do. News Chief: How many people are on your staff? Jackie: Twenty-seven. News Chief: Who do you report to? Jackie: ... They've added a lot more directors and managers, a corporate structure. And I don't know the names of everybody yet, but there is a corporate structure, so it's organized and there are procedures, which makes everything a lot easier. ... The Baker Group came in (Jan. 2), gave us a structure and immediately we knew who we reported to (in) their structure and they figured out, you know, 5 days, they had it. News Chief: So, do you like the structure? Jackie: Yes. Being organized is nice. Anything that makes it easier so you can go faster is nice. News Chief: You came to CG from where? Jackie: Six Flags (6F). I redid the 6F park in New Jersey, 6F Great Adventure in New Jersey. And redid the landscaping of the 6F park in Buffalo ... News Chief: Are you here to stay? Jackie: Yes ... The 6F parks are more for the rides and that kind of thing, that's not their focus (flowers and landscaping). But there's no place in the U.S., I don't think, that you can focus on just flowers. - that people come to see it and CG. There couldn't be a better job. -------------- =A9 2008 News Chief From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 17 08:00:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46894 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2008 16:00:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2008 16:00:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.180) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2008 16:00:17 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2008 16:00:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2008 16:00:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2008 16:00:17 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:00:16 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.180 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: MISC: Job vacancy - Head Of Communications X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=I16SgPn6ZpiUY8cWbCfSTE2dfFFgQVIUYr9ORZPzjE4MTpY X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan 08, 2008 PublicTechnology.net http://www.publictechnology.net/article_avantgo.php?sid=3D13625 BLACKPOOL, LANCASHIRE, UK -- (Ref: TR286) From donkeys and rollercoasters to mirror balls, conferences and illuminations "Blackpool means different things to different people. 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Interview Date: 14th February 2008 --- For the detailed job vacancy description & application details see this link http://jobs.publictechnology.net/job/head-communications-tr286 ----------- Copyright =A9 2007 JGP Limited From jzucker@alpha-sys.com Thu Jan 17 10:37:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jzucker@alpha-sys.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18417 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2008 18:37:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2008 18:37:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n16.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.143) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2008 18:37:04 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n16.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2008 18:37:03 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2008 18:37:03 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2008 18:37:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:37:03 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 64.242.6.130 From: "zucker0615" Subject: Time wasting video X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=192106588; y=CrfMRJnO-iRWacQDJX0kPCHBoG51JpHrEc1_GW3Q5nK0nbFuAg X-Yahoo-Profile: zucker0615 While searching for the patch needed to install Roller Coaster=20 Tycoon, I came across this funny video. Don't blame me if you feel=20 like "there's two minutes of my life I'll never get back." http://controllercode.com/2007/07/01/rollercoaster-tycoon-slaughter/ Jon Z The First From rollercoasterpsycho67@yahoo.com Thu Jan 17 13:07:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: rollercoasterpsycho67@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64305 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2008 21:07:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2008 21:07:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53101.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.51) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2008 21:07:51 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 8066 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2008 21:07:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: vLkU9K0VM1kXSd8_wv5HUfX3z2XIPJUMSRWLoHlxU9xWSsWmAfEiuZ8u7wtBz6qcg39Lbozk8X07aOmylHkT4o97pclvOup7eF3OvP6m0v0sSwvfuG.xmvmfAu9A36_6JNsaEcCvWHHrD5o- X-Received: from [66.219.174.68] by web53101.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:07:50 PST Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:07:50 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <750562.8042.qm@web53101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "wiley reed jr." Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Time wasting video X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=271386421; y=FO3PaiXXUjISN_pmAjc29vf6hHcIlISSDYwzDV0Y_Gp91QYpfMP_N_hY8qL0kEuj X-Yahoo-Profile: rollercoasterpsycho67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That may be a waste of 2 minutes of my life, but with the kind of day i'm having that made me laugh so hard my ribs hurt. I've been playing that game for over a year now and never thought of that idea. zucker0615 wrote: While searching for the patch needed to install Roller Coaster Tycoon, I came across this funny video. Don't blame me if you feel like "there's two minutes of my life I'll never get back." http://controllercode.com/2007/07/01/rollercoaster-tycoon-slaughter/ Jon Z The First --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Thu Jan 17 17:07:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 49146 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2008 01:07:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Jan 2008 01:07:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.62) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2008 01:07:20 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 60520 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2008 01:07:17 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: OusfInMVM1mbOQCWXPa3f9EtXNjeJ7SoMHvX8l8YSTvnA2pmDQQhNRcDZ2SjnQTW7php.Xejo6dfxLclhdJsSuzcDMG.mCWPXlsDKCxdoQRFv31BPmiWtmQKgag49A-- X-Received: from [72.70.245.48] by web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:07:17 PST Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:07:17 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk In-Reply-To: <1200592996.4288.44812.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <288135.59660.qm@web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.62 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: NEWS: Clementon Park gets a facelift X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=jl-u2BbXPaQXKggpN4HZBQ7cx7qB45bzkLFXz7_1u0hX3JgHd0S6 X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The uprights, which are the most valuable pieces of wood when a coaster is moved, were all rotted out, they had been put directly in the ground, which was the way coasters were built at the time. < Interesting. I found out the same thing about Mountain Park's old Mountain Flyer. It too had the bents shoved directly into the dirt. But when the Collins family bought the park, Ed Leis and his crew jacked up every bent, poured a concrete footer underneath and then bolted the bent to it. So there was no reason Clementon couldn't have done the same thing if they wanted to keep the ride running. Jay --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thunder7nyfl@yahoo.com Fri Jan 18 17:37:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: thunder7nyfl@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 2748 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2008 01:37:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jan 2008 01:37:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com) (68.142.237.91) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2008 01:37:45 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2008 01:37:45 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2008 01:37:45 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.167] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2008 01:37:45 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp502.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2008 01:37:45 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 62666.42244.bm@omp502.mail.sp1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 61804 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jan 2008 01:37:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hW9OtWQVM1lcsy7JYjXWlDSwDitSeETJnIbxbDEkHH5wIljv9vMCmmu6QT.2PVGs2g5_PXit.00bAys3S0SiiOAMpLe_ANivlVK44dbhyYXAs5YXJjY- X-Received: from [70.127.135.104] by web45113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:37:44 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.160 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:37:44 -0800 (PST) To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <971244.51520.qm@web45113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.237.91 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: THUNDER Reply-To: THUNDER Subject: Opinion: SFI Rant, Stock, and Shapiro X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=173049580; y=G8JNYchdtWjLsgk4It5_BFM3ImLdb06q-xL6vYzsZ0lO1VV19Y1A X-Yahoo-Profile: thunder7nyfl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SIX&t=5y I know it's the off-season for theme parks, but has anyone checked SFI lately? Someone please tell me why we should believe in Mark Shapiro's plans for the business? In my opinion, he has destroyed the company. Check out the stock before and after Shapiro. If this was any other company in the world, the stock holders would be calling for Shapiro's head right now. The reason the stock is tanking is because (eventhough he's cutting expenses for 2008) the stock holders are seeing assets be destroyed. How many more coasters have to be lost at SFMM or the other parks? It is proven that when you go after a certain demographic (ex: Thomas Town, Wiggles World) it's a disaster. Current management has no clue how to run SFI, except into the ground. Can anyone say bankruptcy in a year or two? Is anyone else distrubed that pre-Kieran Burke the stock was close to $7.00/share, and now look at the graph (post-Kieran Burke). Thanks for listening to my rant, and as always I welcome any other rants and comments. Joe ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ioaspiderman@donkeyentertainment.com Fri Jan 18 19:52:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: ioaspiderman@donkeyentertainment.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60874 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2008 03:52:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jan 2008 03:52:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO outbound-mail-18.bluehost.com) (69.89.20.233) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2008 03:52:50 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 26477 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jan 2008 03:52:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO box24.bluehost.com) (69.89.18.24) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2008 03:52:50 -0000 X-Received: from c-75-75-28-162.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([75.75.28.162] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by box24.bluehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JG4lF-00043n-Rw for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:52:50 -0700 Message-Id: <5F70ED11-BB79-4A8F-81C4-CAED485ECCB2@donkeyentertainment.com> To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <971244.51520.qm@web45113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:52:48 -0500 References: <971244.51520.qm@web45113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Identified-User: {32346:box24.bluehost.com:donkeyen:donkeyentertainment.com} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 75.75.28.162 authed with donkeyentertainment.com} X-Originating-IP: 69.89.20.233 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Mike Filippone Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Opinion: SFI Rant, Stock, and Shapiro X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=197654127; y=oyysXAURLEHEDvmrpk-S3xphoLuImX4CYRRhfVkPtaxaZYxQ7mdN X-Yahoo-Profile: ioaspiderman > I know it's the off-season for theme parks, but has anyone checked > SFI lately? Someone please tell me why we should believe in Mark > Shapiro's plans for the business? In my opinion, he has destroyed > the company. Check out the stock before and after Shapiro. If this > was any other company in the world, the stock holders would be > calling for Shapiro's head right now. The reason the stock is > tanking is because (eventhough he's cutting expenses for 2008) the > stock holders are seeing assets be destroyed. How many more > coasters have to be lost at SFMM or the other parks? It is proven > that when you go after a certain demographic (ex: Thomas Town, > Wiggles World) it's a disaster. Current management has no clue how > to run SFI, except into the ground. Cedar fair isn't doing much better, and they have a pretty different strategy: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SIX&t=1y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=fun Perhaps its an industry thing... and it certainly doesn't help that prices of everything are through the roof. When you have a 70$ amusement park ticket per person, competing with 30$ for a bluray disc, $1500 for a lcd tv, 400$ for a hddvd player, $15,000 to take 2 people to disney world for 3 days, 1200$ a year for unlimited text messaging, 40$ in gas and tolls to get to an amusement park, etc. etc., something has to give. I know I didn't go to any amusement parks this year (besides Hershey, of course), partly because its just too expensive. Mike From m.e.cowan@gmail.com Sat Jan 19 12:29:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: m.e.cowan@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30536 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2008 20:28:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jan 2008 20:28:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.174) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2008 20:28:58 -0000 X-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so625451uge.22 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:28:57 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.243.4 with SMTP id q4mr2755323ugh.5.1200774537419; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:28:57 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.218.19 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:28:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ab4641f0801191228x5f43111ndd58631ebd5c698a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:28:57 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <5F70ED11-BB79-4A8F-81C4-CAED485ECCB2@donkeyentertainment.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <971244.51520.qm@web45113.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <5F70ED11-BB79-4A8F-81C4-CAED485ECCB2@donkeyentertainment.com> X-Originating-IP: 66.249.92.174 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Michael Cowan" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Opinion: SFI Rant, Stock, and Shapiro X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=284040117; y=u2RxeaRpA7mlSixSm19SvFe9WsYK8T302_h8g2QhfwaA5Og X-Yahoo-Profile: mike_ska or perhaps it's because of the impending depression that's causing every American stock to nose dive. I don't see SFI or CF doing much worse than the rest of the market lately. -Mike From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 16:32:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 76726 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2008 00:32:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2008 00:32:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53104.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.54) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2008 00:32:24 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 42945 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2008 00:32:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 67uMaJoVM1mj78Jyq2R5DcxnRI2SNl_wXb2a8mNUzjrsGa3jdNljaCmvr83ToKQW3YToj2ZOOacDId3XQVvYj97xFWTeAHSiO9g1c6ujB98I2Qw1fEu5yrp5SCaGow-- X-Received: from [72.70.245.48] by web53104.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:32:23 PST Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:32:23 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1200675027.2459.39839.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <559760.42082.qm@web53104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.54 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: Time wasting video X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=sUO0aS1ONTMvF1N2S3NgKI_tHM5_d0B7N4GjRpEiAJqfs9pEBf38 X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terrific soundtrack, too! I wish that all the balloons had been released at the crash, sort of like fireworks. And I was surprised the coaster kept flying after leaving the track; in the old RCT, the train would just immediately explode. Oh well, I certainly wouldn't say it was two minutes wasted. Jay --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 16:50:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 27683 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2008 00:50:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2008 00:50:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53109.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.59) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2008 00:50:10 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 9388 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2008 00:50:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: EUK_HcYVM1nGbqJhPaApPMPxbmhAjfAh.eiXQYoRjzyAnlMWWBPQYD0Ud9ddcOU23lKNYdY_pVTmW9ITau4tPaMqygw87Os2amiVyJh0tS1OoA0YmmM- X-Received: from [72.70.245.48] by web53109.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:50:10 PST Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:50:10 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <319275.8724.qm@web53109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.59 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: Opinion: SFI Rant, Stock, and Shapiro X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=AKwYj5a_5Zulaa09nl2Y7N0Z17Da9M4tbzgG3SsQ80z-vLYq7eqU X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Cedar fair isn't doing much better, [snip] Perhaps its an industry thing... < Remember that CF and SF both have something in common now (besides the big Fs in their names): they're both $2 billion in debt. CF was doing okay before the Paramount Parks acquisition. IMO, the debt load is going to drag them down like a boat anchor. The current economy isn't helping out, either, as was mentioned. The only big parks doing well are those who have a different industry to fall back on: Busch, Disney, MGM. And some of the smaller parks that don't have to answer to shareholders seem to be doing okay (Canobie Lake, Holiday World, Waldameer). I hope Shapiro and Snyder can turn things around. But time is running out. I'm thinking about the famous quote (via Steve Jobs) of an earlier Apple CEO: "This ship has a hole in the middle, and my job is to point the ship in the right direction." Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From scrunch17@yahoo.com Sun Jan 20 07:04:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: scrunch17@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42776 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2008 15:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2008 15:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web52807.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.48.250) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2008 15:04:04 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 33925 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2008 15:04:03 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: .uaJGWkVM1lJtEQdjc0BHldNLtvSyMclp2oikrGppVm9_2jD8BCRSfmO8zSKCLTHRlsVLHAf5X5Vhd7kQPDZv82u5gN1tCCf3ydPzcnac2kZLgoXxJX0bgItsfmPT2j367X4cn2UP2cFZRo- X-Received: from [68.100.189.165] by web52807.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:04:03 PST Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:04:03 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <5F70ED11-BB79-4A8F-81C4-CAED485ECCB2@donkeyentertainment.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <572890.33613.qm@web52807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.48.250 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jeremy Norris Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Opinion: SFI Rant, Stock, and Shapiro X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=64084290; y=DYinX4xpPI8ArG6wRx7KYEdEWg9homYkDaTryAJBFoQjhk4O X-Yahoo-Profile: scrunch17 --- Mike Filippone wrote: > Perhaps its an industry thing... and it certainly > doesn't help that > prices of everything are through the roof. When you > have a 70$ > amusement park ticket per person, competing with 30$ > for a bluray > disc, $1500 for a lcd tv, 400$ for a hddvd player, > $15,000 to take 2 > people to disney world for 3 days, 1200$ a year for > unlimited text > messaging, 40$ in gas and tolls to get to an > amusement park, etc. > etc., something has to give. I know I didn't go to > any amusement > parks this year (besides Hershey, of course), partly > because its just > too expensive. I dont know if you were using hyperbole or what seeing as your lcd and bluray prices were spot on, but $15,000 to go to Disney? From where, Australia? It's not remotely that expensive. Methinks you lost a decimal point ;) (1500 is still a little high but in the ballpark). Anyway, think about what SFI's biggest asset is: the land the parks sit on! With the complete devaluation of real estate in the country, it doenst suprise me a bit that SFI stock would take a wallop. Not to mention, as I'm sure a certain Australian SFGAm/IB regular on here would attest ;), Wall Street is astonishingly impatient and want *instant* results. However, there is/was no 'magic pill' that would miraculously resurrect SFI. It's going to be a slow gring back to profitability with that huge milstone of a debt around the company's neck. I still am generally pleased with the direction Shapiro has sent for the chain. lata, jeremy ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From ioaspiderman@donkeyentertainment.com Sun Jan 20 08:05:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: ioaspiderman@donkeyentertainment.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78949 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2008 16:05:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2008 16:05:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO outbound-mail-107.bluehost.com) (69.89.22.7) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2008 16:05:33 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 7761 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jan 2008 16:05:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO box24.bluehost.com) (69.89.18.24) by xmail.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2008 16:05:33 -0000 X-Received: from c-75-75-28-162.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([75.75.28.162] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by box24.bluehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JGcfs-0006sD-SY for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:05:33 -0700 Message-Id: <94FF287F-51B9-47E9-A451-7AEB26B08301@donkeyentertainment.com> To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <572890.33613.qm@web52807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:30 -0500 References: <572890.33613.qm@web52807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Identified-User: {32346:box24.bluehost.com:donkeyen:donkeyentertainment.com} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 75.75.28.162 authed with donkeyentertainment.com} X-Originating-IP: 69.89.22.7 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: Mike Filippone Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Opinion: SFI Rant, Stock, and Shapiro X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=197654127; y=wgBsw79JC5osKYv4Bm169H1Dkl9Ugo58Ptn1ex8uWuZE0j6erkkW X-Yahoo-Profile: ioaspiderman >> Perhaps its an industry thing... and it certainly >> doesn't help that >> prices of everything are through the roof. When you >> have a 70$ >> amusement park ticket per person, competing with 30$ >> for a bluray >> disc, $1500 for a lcd tv, 400$ for a hddvd player, >> $15,000 to take 2 >> people to disney world for 3 days, 1200$ a year for >> unlimited text >> messaging, 40$ in gas and tolls to get to an >> amusement park, etc. >> etc., something has to give. I know I didn't go to >> any amusement >> parks this year (besides Hershey, of course), partly >> because its just >> too expensive. > > I dont know if you were using hyperbole or what seeing > as your lcd and bluray prices were spot on, but > $15,000 to go to Disney? From where, Australia? It's > not remotely that expensive. Methinks you lost a > decimal point ;) (1500 is still a little high but in > the ballpark). I was exaggerating a little, but not too much. I'll be down in the Cape Canaveral area for a day coming up, and I was thinking about staying an extra two days to hit up IOA/Universal and Sea World. Between hotels, park admission (70-80$ for admission when the park is open from 10-6? are they out of their mind?), food, parking at the parks, long term parking at the airport, rental cars, rescheduling my flight, it all adds up... seemed like it would be an extra 600$, easy, for two days. I mean I wasn't looking at the cheapest ways to do everything, but 600$ for one person to visit amusement parks for 2 days is not something I'm about to fork over -- I have more important things I need to buy. And I'm guessing Disney isn't going to be much better, especially if you have a couple kids. > I still am generally pleased with the direction > Shapiro has sent for the chain. I agree, but I'm starting to wonder how accurate Jay's comment is (pointing a sinking ship in the right direction). On the bright side, with the real estate market not doing that great, at least they got rid of SFAW when they did. Mike From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Mon Jan 21 12:36:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 76031 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2008 20:36:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jan 2008 20:36:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53101.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.51) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2008 20:36:01 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 64951 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2008 20:36:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cXBEyVQVM1ltEMS7PENoytqB8IrHQpKoYWrJWr25 X-Received: from [72.70.245.48] by web53101.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:36:00 PST Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:36:00 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1200846669.3163.36655.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <612117.63696.qm@web53101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: Opinion: SFI Rant, Stock, and Shapiro X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=1olzdjMMhbcwYZoPq7pvgshhXBeg0OeAfD4P0VGIQU3Fpk-cRLr2 X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On the bright side, with the real estate market not doing that great, at least they got rid of SFAW when they did. < True. But real estate is a cyclical thing. Land is a finite resource and with time always becomes more valuable (unless it's a Superfund site :-) So all that property is probably the chain's greatest asset. I'm curious if the recent buying sprees by overseas investors will spill over into the amusement business. (It already has with Kennywood.) With the current "bargain" prices in the U.S. and so much property, SF and CF both might be worthy prospects for foreign entrepreneurs. Jay --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bringing_saxy_back@yahoo.com Tue Jan 22 14:08:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: bringing_saxy_back@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 83593 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2008 22:07:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2008 22:07:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.137) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2008 22:07:59 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2008 22:07:59 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2008 22:07:59 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2008 22:07:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:07:57 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.59.78.204 From: "bringing_saxy_back" Subject: Re: Time wasting video X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330369612; y=zP6K3t7Ia5p45MQbktKYr2E8ztyspGwFe3lzW5CbdU4R7IrloF9gkDzgzvAy X-Yahoo-Profile: bringing_saxy_back Just catching up on my e-mail and saw this message. 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Don't blame me if you feel=20 > like "there's two minutes of my life I'll never get back." >=20 > http://controllercode.com/2007/07/01/rollercoaster-tycoon-slaughter/ >=20 >=20 > Jon Z The First From RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Tue Jan 22 22:50:17 2008 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 92769 invoked by uid 7800); 23 Jan 2008 06:50:14 -0000 Date: 23 Jan 2008 06:50:14 -0000 Message-ID: <1201071014.10.92766.m56@yahoogroups.com> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system MIME-Version: 1.0 X-eGroups-Application: calendar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: system From: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Subject: IAAPA Euro Attractions Show, 1/23/2008, 12:00 am Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="YCalReminder=K3AYLStYHPCJTfLyQlVTeS1M5VU1201071010-1" --YCalReminder=K3AYLStYHPCJTfLyQlVTeS1M5VU1201071010-1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; Reminder from: RollerCoasterTalk Yahoo! 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--YCalReminder=K3AYLStYHPCJTfLyQlVTeS1M5VU1201071010-1-- From thunder7nyfl@yahoo.com Wed Jan 23 16:22:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: thunder7nyfl@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 53527 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 00:22:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2008 00:22:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com) (68.142.237.94) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2008 00:22:38 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.230.28] by n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2008 00:22:37 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by t1.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2008 00:22:37 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.157] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2008 00:22:37 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2008 00:22:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 462366.69143.bm@omp405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 37664 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jan 2008 00:22:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: DBknLakVM1nVfGxeZVP8iaUZljTJuq_OFy40QuJ0QUUyXrLukrNMOYPgwkfAfk7VKQ-- X-Received: from [70.127.135.104] by web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:22:37 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.160 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:22:37 -0800 (PST) To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <334508.36858.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 68.142.237.94 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: THUNDER Reply-To: THUNDER Subject: NEWS: SF OVER GEORGIA TOLD NOT TO OPEN WATER RIDES IN 2008 !!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=173049580; y=L5yPZi4a9aV2IqN3ViZEEr05LseWIy_TGAMrOKmq0JHZVAmvgb6G X-Yahoo-Profile: thunder7nyfl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As if SFI wasn't getting clobbered enough, more bad news came this morning from an unexpected place... THE WEATHER CHANNEL. Long story short, I work from 600am-300pm, and while getting ready for work this morning a report about the water shortages that plague the southeast ran at about 445am. Due to the water shortages here in the southeast, SFOG was ordered not to open their water rides this year, including the roaring rapids ride, flumes, and Skull Mountain. They all waste a tremendous amount of water. I wonder how SFI's going to survive, if they can if they get more bad news. Now, this is beyond Shapiro's scope of control when the state dictates something like this, but how much more bloodshed will stockholders allow before they call for Snyder and Shapiro's head? I wonder what Bill Gates is thinking right now since he owns a good chunk of SFI. Not the return they expected when they decided to launch a hostile takeover of the company... right? They were tasked with trying to do better than previous management, but it has turned into a major disaster. SFI needs someone with deep pockets to come in, pay off the debt, and have a working plan to repair the parks while working within a set capitalized budget every year. What a concept... right? If there's someone out there, contact Mr. Snyder and Mr. Shapiro at SFI Headquarters in NYC right away. Joe ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From josh.wozny@gmail.com Wed Jan 23 18:30:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78473 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 02:30:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2008 02:30:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.178) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2008 02:30:48 -0000 X-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so80877pyb.2 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:30:48 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.244.15 with SMTP id w15mr236388qbr.38.1201141847903; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:30:47 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.135.14 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:30:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0801231830y59fb440cp523811fb02cebd2d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:30:47 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <334508.36858.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <334508.36858.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.178 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: SF OVER GEORGIA TOLD NOT TO OPEN WATER RIDES IN 2008 !!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=3ki-vUkYFaRGVAHYhLpsf3M28bELawR4h1O0jMI0fsegmjjFaw X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure how a topic about a water shortage turned into SFI bashing so quickly, but I find it hard to believe that not being able to run their water rides, when there's water shortage in the area, is going to have any outcome on their business. It's not like people are going to show up and say "OH MAN, what a bunch of crap! I can't ride this water ride! Stupid Six Flags!", especially given that they're not allowed to wash their cars, water their lawns, etc.. Now, due to the water shortage, and other circumstances, people might not show up at SFOG, but I highly doubt that it will be because they can't ride Skull Mountain. On Jan 23, 2008 7:22 PM, THUNDER wrote: > As if SFI wasn't getting clobbered enough, more bad news came this > morning from an unexpected place... THE WEATHER CHANNEL. > > Long story short, I work from 600am-300pm, and while getting ready for > work this morning a report about the water shortages that plague the > southeast ran at about 445am. Due to the water shortages here in the > southeast, SFOG was ordered not to open their water rides this year, > including the roaring rapids ride, flumes, and Skull Mountain. They all > waste a tremendous amount of water. > > I wonder how SFI's going to survive, if they can if they get more bad > news. > > Now, this is beyond Shapiro's scope of control when the state dictates > something like this, but how much more bloodshed will stockholders allow > before they call for Snyder and Shapiro's head? I wonder what Bill Gates is > thinking right now since he owns a good chunk of SFI. > > Not the return they expected when they decided to launch a hostile > takeover of the company... right? They were tasked with trying to do better > than previous management, but it has turned into a major disaster. > > SFI needs someone with deep pockets to come in, pay off the debt, and have > a working plan to repair the parks while working within a set capitalized > budget every year. > > What a concept... right? If there's someone out there, contact Mr. Snyder > and Mr. Shapiro at SFI Headquarters in NYC right away. > > Joe > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Briguy7568@aol.com Wed Jan 23 18:40:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Briguy7568@aol.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 50309 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 02:40:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2008 02:40:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d21.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.207) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2008 02:40:45 -0000 X-Received: from Briguy7568@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.d07.24523943 (41811) for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:40:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:40:20 EST To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 205.188.144.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 From: Briguy7568@aol.com Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: SF OVER GEORGIA TOLD NOT TO OPEN WATER RIDES IN... X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3522502; y=or5GvUrY9TAHa_wl138p9i0roNG9P_GY62lj_ZUKUEE1WB22sw X-Yahoo-Profile: briguy7568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does this mean, Monster Plantation will also not run, since its a water ride? That would definitely be a shame. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lance@screamscape.com Wed Jan 23 20:16:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 11535 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 04:16:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2008 04:16:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta16.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2008 04:16:15 -0000 X-Received: from dm07.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta16.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752633FC32 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:16:15 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm07 X-Received: by dm07.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id dm07.4797abe0.3eb8f for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:16:09 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHmBEJ/kwkHAIAAAAB,2b9656c940c4093fe706629f9f4a9555 Message-ID: <5AF7A6DE5A9743ABA95B5BFC9B91DD96@ScreamscapeHP> To: References: <334508.36858.qm@web45116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <76e1ec0a0801231830y59fb440cp523811fb02cebd2d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <76e1ec0a0801231830y59fb440cp523811fb02cebd2d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:16:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: SF OVER GEORGIA TOLD NOT TO OPEN WATER RIDES IN 2008 !!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=XFLEbxTibuztMwtIo9hXYY8FdmAc3IgfeKOqp5y_yHH68RXbGwe4N-Xfpg X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has this been confirmed with any news reports (online) as well? While SFOG will still be able to run... in the end this could be a cost saver for the park since they wont have to run these water rides. Many water rides have intense power requirements (water pumps take a lot of juice...), plus the water bill, and the destructive nature of water rides means they require more maintence than your average ride as well. However... what is this going to do to the nearby but off-site Six Flags owned waterpark? Will they be allowed to open at all or because "water" is their primary business, will they be allowed to continute to run? Before you say no, remember that other business that use a lot of water will also be in the same boat... laundrymats, car washes, etc... and while it would make great sense to just shut them down for several months, these are still busineses with bills and staff to pay. So what happens then? Do their bank loan get put on hold until the drought is over? I know Stone Mountain was planning on opening a waterpark of their own in 2008, plans that were put on hold until at least 2009 or later because they were afraid this was going to happen in 2008 and they didn't want to be stuck with a brand new waterpark trying to open in these drough conditions. They also had to cancel their Snow Mountain winter plans to create fake snow tubing runs... no word on if they'll try again in 2008 until we know how much rain falls this year I suppose. ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh W To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: SF OVER GEORGIA TOLD NOT TO OPEN WATER RIDES IN 2008 !!! I'm not sure how a topic about a water shortage turned into SFI bashing so quickly, but I find it hard to believe that not being able to run their water rides, when there's water shortage in the area, is going to have any outcome on their business. It's not like people are going to show up and say "OH MAN, what a bunch of crap! I can't ride this water ride! Stupid Six Flags!", especially given that they're not allowed to wash their cars, water their lawns, etc.. Now, due to the water shortage, and other circumstances, people might not show up at SFOG, but I highly doubt that it will be because they can't ride Skull Mountain. On Jan 23, 2008 7:22 PM, THUNDER wrote: > As if SFI wasn't getting clobbered enough, more bad news came this > morning from an unexpected place... THE WEATHER CHANNEL. > > Long story short, I work from 600am-300pm, and while getting ready for > work this morning a report about the water shortages that plague the > southeast ran at about 445am. Due to the water shortages here in the > southeast, SFOG was ordered not to open their water rides this year, > including the roaring rapids ride, flumes, and Skull Mountain. They all > waste a tremendous amount of water. > > I wonder how SFI's going to survive, if they can if they get more bad > news. > > Now, this is beyond Shapiro's scope of control when the state dictates > something like this, but how much more bloodshed will stockholders allow > before they call for Snyder and Shapiro's head? I wonder what Bill Gates is > thinking right now since he owns a good chunk of SFI. > > Not the return they expected when they decided to launch a hostile > takeover of the company... right? They were tasked with trying to do better > than previous management, but it has turned into a major disaster. > > SFI needs someone with deep pockets to come in, pay off the debt, and have > a working plan to repair the parks while working within a set capitalized > budget every year. > > What a concept... right? If there's someone out there, contact Mr. Snyder > and Mr. Shapiro at SFI Headquarters in NYC right away. > > Joe > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. 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--YCalReminder=s3ABLStYHPKJTfLyQlVTeS1M5BD1201157406-1-- From adamf.sandy@gmail.com Thu Jan 24 04:32:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: adamf.sandy@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 63296 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 12:32:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2008 12:32:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO an-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.132.250) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2008 12:32:19 -0000 X-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d18so52822and.125 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:32:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.100.251.5 with SMTP id y5mr1336336anh.12.1201177939096; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:32:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: X-Received: from VALUED3253602F ( [76.100.102.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m30sm927676elf.17.2008.01.24.04.32.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:32:16 -0800 (PST) To: Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:32:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 11.0.5207 In-Reply-To: <5AF7A6DE5A9743ABA95B5BFC9B91DD96@ScreamscapeHP> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 thread-index: AcheP96QCs4RmmZ2QnG9g6pT19Y2FgARTlaw Message-ID: <4798854b.1ebd7e0a.0754.ffffa7d8@mx.google.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.85.132.250 From: "Adam Sandy" Subject: RE: NEWS: SF OVER GEORGIA TOLD NOT TO OPEN WATER RIDES IN 2008 !!! X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=256330587; y=l57hmyAhVm7Lr8cGIrK6Rdp8z7G3QW8cp5nHUyyP5oWUOuM X-Yahoo-Profile: afrsandy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yup. http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/01/24/sixflags0124.html Adam _____ From: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lance Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:16 PM To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: SF OVER GEORGIA TOLD NOT TO OPEN WATER RIDES IN 2008 !!! Has this been confirmed with any news reports (online) as well? While SFOG will still be able to run... in the end this could be a cost saver for the park since they wont have to run these water rides. Many water rides have intense power requirements (water pumps take a lot of juice...), plus the water bill, and the destructive nature of water rides means they require more maintence than your average ride as well. However... what is this going to do to the nearby but off-site Six Flags owned waterpark? Will they be allowed to open at all or because "water" is their primary business, will they be allowed to continute to run? Before you say no, remember that other business that use a lot of water will also be in the same boat... laundrymats, car washes, etc... and while it would make great sense to just shut them down for several months, these are still busineses with bills and staff to pay. So what happens then? Do their bank loan get put on hold until the drought is over? I know Stone Mountain was planning on opening a waterpark of their own in 2008, plans that were put on hold until at least 2009 or later because they were afraid this was going to happen in 2008 and they didn't want to be stuck with a brand new waterpark trying to open in these drough conditions. They also had to cancel their Snow Mountain winter plans to create fake snow tubing runs... no word on if they'll try again in 2008 until we know how much rain falls this year I suppose. ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh W To: RollerCoasterTalk@ yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: SF OVER GEORGIA TOLD NOT TO OPEN WATER RIDES IN 2008 !!! I'm not sure how a topic about a water shortage turned into SFI bashing so quickly, but I find it hard to believe that not being able to run their water rides, when there's water shortage in the area, is going to have any outcome on their business. It's not like people are going to show up and say "OH MAN, what a bunch of crap! I can't ride this water ride! Stupid Six Flags!", especially given that they're not allowed to wash their cars, water their lawns, etc.. Now, due to the water shortage, and other circumstances, people might not show up at SFOG, but I highly doubt that it will be because they can't ride Skull Mountain. On Jan 23, 2008 7:22 PM, THUNDER yahoo.com> wrote: > As if SFI wasn't getting clobbered enough, more bad news came this > morning from an unexpected place... THE WEATHER CHANNEL. > > Long story short, I work from 600am-300pm, and while getting ready for > work this morning a report about the water shortages that plague the > southeast ran at about 445am. Due to the water shortages here in the > southeast, SFOG was ordered not to open their water rides this year, > including the roaring rapids ride, flumes, and Skull Mountain. They all > waste a tremendous amount of water. > > I wonder how SFI's going to survive, if they can if they get more bad > news. > > Now, this is beyond Shapiro's scope of control when the state dictates > something like this, but how much more bloodshed will stockholders allow > before they call for Snyder and Shapiro's head? I wonder what Bill Gates is > thinking right now since he owns a good chunk of SFI. > > Not the return they expected when they decided to launch a hostile > takeover of the company... right? They were tasked with trying to do better > than previous management, but it has turned into a major disaster. > > SFI needs someone with deep pockets to come in, pay off the debt, and have > a working plan to repair the parks while working within a set capitalized > budget every year. > > What a concept... right? If there's someone out there, contact Mr. Snyder > and Mr. Shapiro at SFI Headquarters in NYC right away. > > Joe > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 24 07:11:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13889 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 15:11:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2008 15:11:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n51b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.165) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2008 15:11:16 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n51.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2008 15:11:16 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2008 15:11:16 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2008 15:11:16 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:11:14 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.165 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Hotel will rise on contested site near Disneyland X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=_S2P1oQ9W16B-_J7grndXi0x200R0sQKtW_d5pqZgQ7rDKE X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 18, 2008 Associated Press North County Times http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/01/19/news/state/15_55_501_18_08.txt ANAHEIM, CA -- A developer plans to build a hotel-retail complex on a 26-acre site near Disneyland. Renaissance Development Co. Inc. says a deal has been reached to buy the site, now mostly mobile home parks, from property owner Frank Family Partnership. It's the same site where developer SunCal planned to build about 1,500 homes, a project contested by Disney. SunCal attorney Skip Miller says the family reneged on a purchase agreement, but the property owner says SunCal failed to pay to extend its contract and a deal was made with Fort Worth, Texas-based Renaissance. The sale is expected to be finalized by June and construction could start mid-2009. The project includes hotels, timeshares and shops. ---------- =A9 1997-2007 North County Times =96 Lee Enterprises From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 24 07:27:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 36343 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 15:27:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2008 15:27:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.136) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2008 15:27:34 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2008 15:27:34 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2008 15:27:34 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2008 15:27:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:27:34 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Euro Disney Reports Revenues for the 1st Quarter X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=Z3qXe6_YMEp_d6Jehdo-GLOePyvfG_FuNdtrcUT3ahq-yYY X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 24, 2008 PRNewswire-FirstCall Yahoo! Finance http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080124/ukth008.html?.v=3D101 MARNE-LA-VALLEE, FR -- Euro Disney S.C.A. Fiscal Year 2008 1st Quarter Announcement - 1st Quarter Revenues Increased 20% to EUR 341 Million - Resort Revenues Increased 14% to EUR 316 Million, Driven by Theme Parks Attendance, Guest Spending and Hotel Occupancy - Real Estate Development Revenues Increased EUR 18 Million Euro Disney S.C.A. (the "Company"), parent company of Euro Disney Associes S.C.A., operator of Disneyland=AE Resort Paris (DLP), reported today revenues for its consolidated group (the "Group") for the 1st quarter of fiscal year 2008 which ended December 31, 2007 (the "1st Quarter"). Revenues for the 1st Quarter increased 20% to EUR 340.5 million, reflecting increases in theme parks, hotels and real estate revenues. Theme parks revenues increased 14% to EUR 175.1 million, driven by growth in attendance and average spending per guest. Hotels and Disney=AE Village revenues increased 17% to EUR 126.7 million, reflecting increases in average spending per room and hotel occupancy. Real estate revenues increased EUR 18.4 million to EUR 24.4 million, primarily resulting from EUR 12.5 million of revenue related to the sale of a property in Val d'Europe which had been subject to a long-term ground lease. Commenting on the results, Karl L. Holz, Chairman and CEO of Euro Disney S.A.S., said: "We are pleased with our 1st quarter results, with the growth in revenues reflecting increases in all our key business drivers. These revenue results show that our strategies, coupled with our team's solid execution, are delivering and we remain focused on driving the business towards profitability. Our 15th anniversary celebration, marked by the opening of the Crush's Coaster and Cars Race Rally attractions as well as the new Disney's Once Upon a Dream Parade, has created another level of emotional connections with our guests. In fiscal year 2008, the Celebration Continues, Big Time with the April grand opening of The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror(TM)(i) in the Walt Disney Studios=AE Park. This iconic Disney attraction will add to the high-quality experiences we offer visitors to our Resort - the place where dreams come true." Revenues by Operating Segment Revenues of the Group are detailed as follows: Quarter Ended December 31, EUR in millions, unaudited) 2007 2006 Amount % Theme parks 175.1 153.6 21.5 14.0% Hotels and Disney=AE Village 126.7 108.7 18.0 16.6% Other 14.3 15.8 (1.5) (9.5)% Resort operating segment 316.1 278.1 38.0 13.7% Real estate development 24.4 6.0 18.4 306.7% operating segment Total revenues 340.5 284.1 56.4 19.9% Resort operating segment revenues increased 14% to EUR 316.1 million from EUR 278.1 million in the prior-year quarter. Theme parks revenues increased 14% to EUR 175.1 million from EUR 153.6 million in the prior-year quarter, reflecting a 10% increase in attendance and a 3% increase in average spending per guest. The increase in theme parks attendance primarily reflects growth in the Spanish, Dutch and British markets. The increase in average spending per guest primarily reflects growth from admissions and food and beverage. Hotels and Disney Village revenues increased 17% to EUR 126.7 million from EUR 108.7 million in the prior-year quarter, reflecting an 11% increase in average spending per room and a 6.8% increase in hotel occupancy. The increase in average spending per room reflects increases in daily room rates at certain of our hotels. The increase in hotel occupancy resulted from an incremental 36,000 room nights compared to the prior-year quarter, primarily driven by more guests visiting from Spain and the U.K. Other revenues, which primarily include participant sponsorships, transportation and other travel services sold to guests, decreased EUR 1.5 million to EUR 14.3 million. Real estate development operating segment revenues increased EUR 18.4 million from the prior-year quarter, primarily resulting from EUR 12.5 million of revenue related to the sale of a property in Val d'Europe which had been subject to a long-term ground lease. This sale therefore resulted in higher real estate costs. Update on Recent and Upcoming Events On April 1, 2007, the Group launched the celebration of the 15th anniversary of DLP. In June, the Group opened 2 new attractions at the Walt Disney Studios=AE Park, Crush's Coaster and Cars Race Rally, inspired by the Disney/Pixar hit animated films Finding Nemo and Cars, respectively. The celebration continues in fiscal year 2008 with the addition of The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror(TM)(i), which opens in April and has been very popular in the U.S. Disney parks and Stitch Live, a new interactive experience. These attractions are designed to add to the appeal and capacity of DLP, further enhancing the guest experience to drive revenue growth. On November 8, 2007, the Company announced the implementation of a 100 to 1 consolidation of shares, commonly referred to as a reverse stock split, as authorized by the Company's shareholders. Effective consolidation took place on December 3, 2007 and currently 96% of the Company's shares have been consolidated. Next Scheduled Release: Half-year report on the liquidity contract in April 2008 Additional Financial Information can be found on the internet at http://corporate.disneylandparis.com Consolidated shares Unconsolidated shares Code ISIN: FR0010540740 Code ISIN: FR0000125874 Code Reuters: EDL.PA Code Reuters: EDLNR.P Code Bloomberg: EDL FP Code Bloomberg: EDLNR FP The Group operates DLP which includes: Disneyland=AE Park, Walt Disney Studios=AE Park, 7 themed hotels with approximately 5,800 rooms (excluding approximately 2,400 additional 3rd-party rooms located on the site), 2 convention centers, Disney=AE Village, a dining, shopping and entertainment centre, and a 27-hole golf course. The Group's operating activities also include the development of the 2,000-hectare site, half of which is yet developed. Euro Disney S.C.A.'s shares are listed and traded on Euronext Paris. --------------------------------- (i) Inspired by The Twilight Zone=AE, a registered trademark of CBS, Inc. 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--YCalReminder=F3ADLStYHPBJTfLyQlVTeS1M5DW1201243810-1-- From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Jan 25 07:41:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 33082 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2008 15:41:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2008 15:41:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n16.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.143) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2008 15:41:00 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n16.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 15:40:56 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 15:40:56 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 15:40:52 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:40:51 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Theme park adds new ride X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=go8qihKZGgnbd0WngC6SWMJQJPDuBQao49l8v3eYMbwG_QM X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan 23, 2008 The Coeur d'Alene Press http://www.cdapress.com/articles/2008/01/24/news/news02.txt By Lucy Dukes ATHOL, ID -- Silverwood Theme Park (SW) is adding the largest, most expensive roller coaster it has ever purchased: A 191' steel ride almost twice the height of the park's next highest roller coaster, Tremors. "It's going to make the Corkscrew look like a tinker toy," said Nancy DiGiammarco, marketing, sales and public relations director for SW. The ride -- to be named by the public through a contest -- will be assembled this spring. The park plans to open it in July, locating it behind Tremors. No exact date has been set for it to begin taking passengers. It will cost about $4 million, maybe more, including the price of installation. The giant, 2-towered inverted boomerang will pull riders up a 90-degree incline before dropping them 177' at speeds of more than 65 mph. Riders will experience the pull of 4.5 positive G forces, according to a press release. Riders will go through a cobra roll and loop at more than 100' in the air. Upon reaching the 2nd tower, the ride will hoist them again up a 90-degree incline to stare at the sky before they drop backward down the track. "It is not only going to turn your world upside down, but also turn you backward," DiGiammarco said Wednesday. 32 riders can go at once on the one and a half minute ride, which has a capacity of 750 people per hour. The ride is far more complex than anything SW has installed before, said SW founder Gary Norton. The roller coaster formerly resided at Six Flags Great America (6FGA) near Chicago, under the name Deja Vu. 4 of this kind of roller coaster were made by a Dutch company called Vekoma. Norton said SW found out about the opportunity to buy it in November. 6FGA is getting rid of it in the midst of financial trouble. "It just turned out we had the right spot," he said. The ride will fill 50 truckloads in the move to Idaho. DiGiammarco said that adding the roller coaster is "kind of the next leap" in SW's progression. The theme park has become a destination, she said, and the time is right to add the ride -- especially with exchange rates favorable to drawing Canadian tourists. "It will affect the whole tourist industry," she said. Coeur d'Alene Area Chamber of Commerce Executive Director Jonathan Coe said SW's announcement made at the Best Western Coeur d'Alene Inn was exciting. SW's continued investment is important to the area, he said. "The park just keeps getting better and better and better," Coe said. Competitive Edge Racing School owner Randy Koch was also enthusiastic. When dad comes to the area to learn race car driving, "this gives the whole family a reason to come," he said. "I think this is going to be a situation where our customers are going to spend more days." Sterling Bank employee and "roller coaster enthusiast" Mark Butera said the ride would "push the thrill ride envelope." He came to hear the announcement, he said, because Sterling would like to finance the ride. "A 200' roller coaster is a big deal," Butera said. It's difficult to say how many more people the ride will draw, Norton said. Last year the park had 550,000 visitors. A name for the new roller coaster will be chosen from entries by the public. 10 finalists will be chosen, and will be among the first to ride the roller coaster. The winner will get a 2008 gold season pass. More details will be released on SW's Web site, www.silverwoodthemepark.com. With the added attraction, the admission price for adults will go up to $36.99. Children and senior admission will remain $19.99. SW has more than 65 rides and attractions, and has maintained a continuous program of expansion and improvements. Its most recent project, at $5 million, doubled Boulder Beach last year. Other SW plans call for ongoing infrastructure improvements and beautification. Norton said his goal is to make SW approach the famed Butchart Gardens, on Canada's Vancouver Island. --------------- Copyright =A9 2008, The Coeur d'Alene Press From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Jan 25 07:47:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40528 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2008 15:47:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2008 15:47:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.136) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2008 15:47:20 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 15:47:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 15:47:15 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 15:47:15 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:47:14 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: TDOT offers hope for Bible Park access road X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=4bLjkvD8L40JSKnWMuTJ3iP8Bz5-D37AIpwrw3n-kpFW0v8 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 25, 2008 The Tennessean http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20080125/COUNTY07/80= 1250408 By Turner Hutchens MURFREESBORO, TN -=97 A concept for a new access road to a proposed Bible-based theme park has received tentative state approval, but developers say plans for the park still aren't ready. The Tennessee Department of Transportation has said it could permit the construction of a road for the proposed park, known at this stage as Bible Park USA, in the Blackman community on the northwest side of Murfreesboro. A Jan. 17 letter to Armon Bar-Tur, a partner in the project, states that a plan for the road as shown in a conceptual drawing could be permitted. The road would connect the new Beesley Rd just south of the SR-840 interchange, then cross SR-840 in the vicinity of Manson Pike, taking vehicles directly to the park, according to concept drawings submitted to TDOT. Bar-Tur said Wednesday that the design released by TDOT was only 1 of a few concepts being considered to allow access to the park. "We've been planning to minimize any impact to local traffic, and all of our plans that we've been working on do that," he said. TDOT spokeswoman B.J. Doughty said the process to approve an access road was just a beginning. No funds have been committed, and permitting for the road would require a detailed plan and consideration by TDOT's permitting department, she said. Park has drawn criticism Developers say the park would have nondenominational depictions of Bible stories. They introduced the idea for the park last April. Rutherford County business leaders see the park as a tourism boost. But many of its would-be neighbors strongly oppose it, saying the park would hurt property values and their community. Rafe Hyatt, who lives on Blackman Rd near the proposed park site, said he was concerned that the development may not be financially sound. "The developers should be required to present to the public =97 not just the commission =97 a business plan that says this thing will succeed," he said. He said any decisions on the park should be voted on in a countywide referendum. -------------- Copyright =A9 2008 The Tennessean From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Jan 25 07:53:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 52777 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2008 15:53:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2008 15:53:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.140) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2008 15:53:57 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 15:53:57 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 15:53:57 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 15:53:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.140 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Hard Rock Park months away from opening X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=6wlFSKJBRsSCuazkXPA6KFfJpOhJvK3e2UyNQpXVmwxxhr4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 24, 2008 WPDE - ABC 15 http://www.wpde.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=3D88516 By Amanda Kinseth MYRTLE BEACH, SC -- Anticipation continues to build with just 3 months left until the opening of the world's first rock-and-roll theme park located in Myrtle Beach. Construction crews have finished a major addition to Hard Rock Park (HRP): a giant guitar. HRP announced their partnership with Gibson Guitar Thursday, no doubt adding to the park's rock-n-roll image. The worlds largest Gibson Guitar is the centerpiece of the park at The Cinderella's Castle. "This is probably going to be the most photographed item in the park. As you come down the entry plaza you're going to see this guitar," Steven Goodwin, HRP CEO, said. You can't miss the 70' icon towering over the HRP lagoon. It represents the park's partnership with the worldwide instrument producer which, HRP's CEO says, will help with their worldwide reach. Goodwin said, "We think it just strengthens are ability to bring artists here and be relevant to the rock music industry as well as provide a great theme park experience." Officials say construction is on target. Crews continue to work on buildings, landscaping and rides. The front area is 99% complete and future park-goers can see the roller coaster- Led Zeppelin, the ride and now the Gibson guitar from the road. Which helps to building the anticipation. "Pretty excited. Should be real cool. The ride looks pretty amazing," said Ted Panaretos of Horry County. Felix Mussenden, HRP COO said, "I'm going to have one great evening when it comes down to finally seeing some smiling faces coming to the park and enjoying the rides and the entire facility." The guitar isn't just for looks. Park officials tell NewsChannel 15 it will actually be able to shoot fireworks and lasers. The grand opening is May 9th. We're still waiting to hear who will be the opening act. HRP says they'll announce that next month. -------------- Copyright 2008 Barrington Broadcasting Corporation From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Jan 25 08:04:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71379 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2008 16:04:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2008 16:04:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n35d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.189) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2008 16:04:01 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n35.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 16:04:01 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 16:03:40 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.75] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 16:03:29 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:03:27 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.189 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: RUMOR: DreamWorks to build theme park in Dubai X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=hJkhHtMyviB0i3JQyKU7kkep9fHNJLOJyl0ll9b6DCxduKw X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 23/01/2008 The Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=3D/news/2008/01/22/wdubai122= .xml By Catherine Elsworth DUBAI, UAE -- The Hollywood studio DreamWorks (DW) is planning to build its first theme park in the booming Persian Gulf state of Dubai. The project, which will include themed restaurants, hotels and shops, is expected to cover 5-million sq-ft and feature rides incorporating characters from the studio's animated blockbusters such as Shrek and its forthcoming release Kung Fu Panda. DW, headed by Jeffrey Katzenberg, has teamed up with state-owned property firm Tatweer for the project, which marks the latest in a series of deals between Hollywood production companies and United Arab Emirates developers. "We are thrilled to bring the first DW Animation-dedicated theme park to Dubai," said Katzenberg. The park will be built at Dubailand, an entertainment megaplex being constructed by Tatweer that is billed as the world's largest tourism, leisure and entertainment complex. Katzenberg said the partnership would "create an exciting destination where families and tourists will enjoy the unique opportunity to interact with DW characters and brands". DW is among a host of Hollywood studios that view the wealthy Western-oriented emirate as fertile territory for promoting their brands. Seen as the playground of the oil-rich Gulf, Dubai attracts millions of visitors - including many Britons - with its tax-free shopping, extravagant shopping malls and winter sunshine. Its booming economy and tax haven status have also drawn huge numbers of foreign businesses and workers, prompting a property boom that features some of the world's most lavish and ambitious developments - projects currently under way include the world's tallest building and largest indoor ski slope. British tourists are increasingly buying properties in Dubai as holiday homes or investments. Celebrities such as David and Victoria Beckham, Rod Stewart, Michael Schumacher and Michael Owen are among those to invest there. Dubai has also recently taken off as a service centre for high-tech and financial businesses. The DW announcement follows a deal struck in September under which Warner Brothers will establish a theme park in the UAE capital, Abu Dhabi. The development will include a hotel and several multiplex cinemas. Marvel Entertainment has unveiled plans for a theme park in Dubai featuring Spiderman, the X-Men and the Incredible Hulk. Nickelodeon signed up to the same project allowing its famous characters - SpongeBob Squarepants and Dora the Explorer - to join the comic book stars. Meanwhile, Paramount has signed a licensing deal for a series of Dubai-based parks and rides inspired by blockbusters such as Mission Impossible, Top Gun and The Godfather. In May, Tatweer announced a $2 billion deal with Universal Parks and Resorts to build Universal City Dubailand. The large theme park will feature rides similar those at its Florida and California attractions based on film hits such as Revenge of the Mummy and Jurassic Park. -------------- =A9 Copyright of Telegraph Media Group Limited 2008 From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Jan 25 08:10:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 15826 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2008 16:10:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2008 16:10:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n27c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.220) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2008 16:10:37 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n27.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 16:10:33 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 16:10:33 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:10:33 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.220 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Theme park's lenders split over low offer X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=syOpFZIVamBzO2MsgqgIWAiPcPF7Ph10w1sMkLfaeIUzgbo X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 23, 2008 The Wichita Eagle http://www.kansas.com/101/story/289128.html By Bill Wilson VALLEY CANTER, KS -- Thomas Etheredge's lenders reportedly are split over a new, low offer to buy Wild West World. That split and the lenders' decision last summer to turn down an offer to acquire and operate the park has upset Park City officials. It's time to strike a deal with the newest bidder, Park City officials say. The bidder's identity is unknown, but sources close to the bankruptcy call it a "legitimate amusement park operator." "I think (Etheredge's) bankers are crazy," Park City Mayor Dee Stuart said. "They're trying to cover their butts, and it's a huge mistake. Everybody comes out better if we find a park operator." The offer reportedly grew out of the last-ditch sales campaign mounted by Grant and Bradley Tidemann of J.P. Weigand & Sons. "I understand that the banks are trying to get out of this as best they can," Park City Administrator Jack Whitson said. "But I feel like they better get used to this, because this is what's coming down the pike." Also driving that frustration is the lenders' decision late last summer to turn down a risk assumption offer from the owners of Magic Springs, a Hot Springs, AR, theme park. The offer reportedly was an agreement to cooperate with Etheredge's lenders, with an agreement to pay the banks about $13 million -- well under the $24 million in debt on the park -- from future profits. However, Stuart and Whitson said the Arkansas park committed to an immediate $5 million down payment, with $15 million in capital improvements over the first 5 years. Magic Springs president Dan Aylward was out of town Tuesday and couldn't be reached for comment. Magic Springs isn't involved in the current round of talks, according to sources close to the bankruptcy. But Park City officials wish they were. "Hey, when you lend that kind of money to someone like Etheredge, you're taking a risk," Stuart said. "But now that these banks have taken a risk with someone who clearly didn't know what he was doing, they won't take a risk with a company that's done this kind of revival twice before. Makes no sense." Rex Reynolds, president of First National Bank of Southwest Kansas in Mount Hope, the lead bank in Etheredge's consortium of lenders, did not return calls Tuesday. The bank's Wichita attorney, Bill Sorensen, declined to comment. Park City has a vested interest in the park's revival -- a $1 million interest in the parking lot and bridge leading to the park's entrance and the Johnny Western Theatre. Without a sale to an amusement park operator, the city will be forced to market its property to developers, likely at a big loss. "We're just waiting and hoping," Whitson said. "It's frustrating for us, but the banks are the key players in this. They just need to realize that they're not going to get a lot of money out of the park unless they do a deal like the Arkansas deal. "It's a risk, still a sort of investment, but we've all got a better chance of getting our money back." ------------- Copyright 2008 Kansas.com From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Jan 25 08:18:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12824 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2008 16:18:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2008 16:18:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n51c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.185) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2008 16:18:46 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n51.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 16:18:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 16:18:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.201] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 16:17:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:17:38 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.185 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Disney May Raise Stake in Hong Kong X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=50kt6ABFNM6SCqxPL-m04CRwNZDnlEMvtRsXFbcerBzN7Xc X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 21, 2008 Bloomberg http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=3D20601080&sid=3Da8QItkeRBqjs By Le-Min Lim LANTAU ISLAND, HONG KONG, CHINA -- Walt Disney Co., the 2nd-largest U.S. media company, may increase its stake in its struggling Hong Kong Disneyland (HKDL) theme park as attendance figures falter. "We do anticipate an additional investment ourselves," said HKDL's managing director, Bill Ernest, in an interview in Hong Kong (HK) today. He didn't elaborate. Disney owns a 43% stake in HKDL with HK's government, which paid for land reclamation, roads and other supporting works, holding the balance. HKDL in November asked banks to allow it to delay debt repayments amid falling attendances, prompting some lawmakers to claim it wasn't designed to cater for local habits and culture. The Burbank, California-based company isn't in talks on opening a park in Shanghai, Ernest said today. "We are fully focused on our HK park," he said. HKDL attracted more than 4 million visitors in its 2nd year of operations, the city's Tourism Commission said in a paper to be discussed by lawmakers. In the 12 months after opening in September 2005, more than 5 million visitors arrived, which was less than forecast. "We expect to be busier this year than last year," Ernest said, declining to specify targets. HKDL agreed with lenders in November to remove debt covenants to help it focus on attracting more visitors. Disney will forgo royalties. ------------- Copyright 2008 Bloomburg L.P. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Jan 25 08:30:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30851 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2008 16:30:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2008 16:30:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.206) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2008 16:30:00 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n18.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 16:29:57 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2008 16:29:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:29:57 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.206 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RUMOR:_Yorkshire_mulls_=A3250m_theme_park_offer?= X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=TtvQsrul-nIQvutIFGgTqylLY_zeRBFLn31h48EK2ju_Zo8 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 18/01/08 ATE on-line http://www.ateonline.co.uk/60/74/79/articles/14104.php DONCASTER, SOUTH YORKSHIRE, UK -- Officials in South Yorkshire are mulling an offer to build a =A3250 million theme park based on the work of author Hans Christian Andersen in the district. Doncaster mayor Martin Winter has reportedly received a letter from the Hans Christian Andersen Theme Park Centre UK PLC inquiring about potential sites for the park, which will include a 300,000 sq ft theme park, with a 750-seater theatre and a concert hall for 3,500 people. News reports suggest the firm is looking to build in Britain because it regards Denmark as too small to attract the visitor numbers which would be needed. --------------- =A9 2007 Amusement Trades Limited From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Fri Jan 25 16:39:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18628 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2008 00:39:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Jan 2008 00:39:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53107.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.57) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2008 00:39:55 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 10279 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jan 2008 00:39:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Xg_I0IwVM1k.0cEuIB3ucFLqpttPTDAUeRQokrotKsA8HvIQ24RP2bE5FJ7XoKVfyQaSHSlLeSZoMaf9zhjy4g_BuuS5S2mGSkdVr6Tp_8F0o0Rlrp6yOQIjuqNV6R4lKwM9_eA9s9GGSV_shCc4SD.f X-Received: from [72.70.245.48] by web53107.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:39:54 PST Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:39:54 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1201282438.3244.46504.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <421623.17232.qm@web53107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.57 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: NEWS: Theme park adds new ride X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=uWrCD14DRwXzD1SfmfSLdemwBVRedHYQX_1CvPJooH4xbD8v7_Oh X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The ride is far more complex than anything SW has installed before < I hope the park realizes how true this is. If Six Flags couldn't make it work reliably with their budget, how can Silverwood? > A name for the new roller coaster will be chosen from entries by the public. < How about "Breakdown?" Jay --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From drounds@jvlnet.com Sat Jan 26 03:56:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: drounds@jvlnet.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 69846 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2008 11:56:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Jan 2008 11:56:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO nsmaster.badgerinternet.com) (207.170.26.132) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2008 11:56:04 -0000 X-SpamCatcher-Score: 50 [XX] X-Received: from emerald.jvlnet.com ([156.46.57.20] verified) by nsmaster.badgerinternet.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with SMTP id 1212438 for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:54:32 -0600 X-Received: (qmail 26400 invoked by uid 99); 26 Jan 2008 11:56:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20080126115603.26399.qmail@emerald.jvlnet.com> Date: 26 Jan 2008 05:56:03 -0600 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 75.42.232.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Originating-IP: 207.170.26.132 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "David R. Rounds" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Theme park adds new ride X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=59700077; y=PZryo-nfYF4IJou9SiGttZHwlJWhAojl-OC_dtZqdoW3xv0g X-Yahoo-Profile: drrounds2 I hope Silverwood has better luck keeping it operating than SFGAm did. And I also hope that the park does not get disappointed by the low rider throughtput. Dave > > Jan 23, 2008 > The Coeur d'Alene Press > http://www.cdapress.com/articles/2008/01/24/news/news02.txt > By Lucy Dukes > > > ATHOL, ID -- Silverwood Theme Park (SW) is adding the largest, most > expensive roller coaster it has ever purchased: A 191' steel ride > almost twice the height of the park's next highest roller coaster, > Tremors. "It's going to make the Corkscrew look like a tinker toy," > said Nancy DiGiammarco, marketing, sales and public relations director > for SW. > ... > > The roller coaster formerly resided at Six Flags Great America (6FGA) > near Chicago, under the name Deja Vu. 4 of this kind of roller coaster > were made by a Dutch company called Vekoma. Norton said SW found out > about the opportunity to buy it in November. 6FGA is getting rid of it > in the midst of financial trouble. "It just turned out we had the > right spot," he said. > > The ride will fill 50 truckloads in the move to Idaho. > > Copyright © 2008, The Coeur d'Alene Press > > > From munkye1972@yahoo.com Sat Jan 26 06:09:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: munkye1972@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79607 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2008 14:09:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Jan 2008 14:09:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n7.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.134) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2008 14:09:44 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n7.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2008 14:09:43 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2008 14:09:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2008 14:09:43 -0000 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:09:40 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080126115603.26399.qmail@emerald.jvlnet.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.162.44.4 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: NEWS: Theme park adds new ride X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=124743306; y=AWmVeb287dZoCHkyHspQV4DADYY5J64GRo2nM7d6SIHnndhELg X-Yahoo-Profile: munkye1972 Well, they did get the most reliable of the three in the US. Plus,=20 being a smaller park, with the smaller attendance, the throughput=20 should be less of a problem for them than it was at Great America.=20 I never had any lengthy downtimes when I was working at Deja Vu last=20 year that weren't weather related, or because the train hadn't come=20 out of rehab yet. (Granted, it wasn't my home unit, but I was there=20 at least a couple times each month.) Chris --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "David R. Rounds"=20 wrote: > > I hope Silverwood has better luck keeping it operating than SFGAm=20 did. > And I also hope that the park does not get disappointed by the low=20 > rider throughtput. > Dave >=20 > >=20 > > Jan 23, 2008 > > The Coeur d'Alene Press > > http://www.cdapress.com/articles/2008/01/24/news/news02.txt > > By Lucy Dukes > >=20 > >=20 > > ATHOL, ID -- Silverwood Theme Park (SW) is adding the largest,=20 most > > expensive roller coaster it has ever purchased: A 191' steel ride > > almost twice the height of the park's next highest roller coaster, > > Tremors. "It's going to make the Corkscrew look like a tinker=20 toy," > > said Nancy DiGiammarco, marketing, sales and public relations=20 > director > > for SW. > >=20 > ... > > > > The roller coaster formerly resided at Six Flags Great America=20 (6FGA) > > near Chicago, under the name Deja Vu. 4 of this kind of roller=20 > coaster > > were made by a Dutch company called Vekoma. Norton said SW found=20 out > > about the opportunity to buy it in November. 6FGA is getting rid=20 of=20 > it > > in the midst of financial trouble. "It just turned out we had the > > right spot," he said. > >=20 > > The ride will fill 50 truckloads in the move to Idaho. > >=20 > > Copyright =A9 2008, The Coeur d'Alene Press > >=20 > >=20 > > > From adamnvillani@yahoo.com Sat Jan 26 15:31:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: adamnvillani@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 62731 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2008 23:31:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Jan 2008 23:31:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n16a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.121) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2008 23:31:26 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n16.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2008 23:31:23 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2008 23:31:23 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2008 23:31:23 -0000 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:31:22 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.121 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.246.209.219 From: "adamnvillani" Subject: Re: NEWS: Theme park adds new ride X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=145821173; y=sJocQZs0YRej8Bb0BlkNwqAwfpZA5KsQ3musVI_zlpGgzD4ZbARp X-Yahoo-Profile: adamnvillani --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" wrote: > > Well, they did get the most reliable of the three in the US. Plus,=20 > being a smaller park, with the smaller attendance, the throughput=20 > should be less of a problem for them than it was at Great America.=20 I'd actually thougght a smaller park like Silverwood would be an ideal location for a Deja Vu for a while. In a big Six Flags, it's noteworthy only for being simple and lacking throughput, and is otherwise just redundant. For something like Silverwood, it'll be a star attraction. Adam http://blogbilongadam.blogspot.com From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 17:25:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 19900 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2008 01:25:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2008 01:25:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n16.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.143) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2008 01:25:08 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n16.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 01:25:08 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 01:25:08 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 01:25:08 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:25:08 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.70.245.48 From: "jay_ducharme" Subject: MISC: Thrill of the Ride X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=S7HWDqvKMUvLzQXsNhyWC8EmRs1Gmas1MtwecAavQvCJpBs050ah X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Karen and I received in the mail the other day a magazine from a realtor. The magazine is called American Lifestyle published by Digital Grapes. I guess it's a magazine designed to look as if it came directly from the realtor. I didn't pay much attention to it at first. It had a mish-mash of articles, from travel tips to recipes. But Karen started reading it and found an interesting and lengthy article called "For the Thrill of the Ride." It was written by Chris Gray of GCI, and details how he got into the coaster business. It also focuses on his work at Dollywood on Thunderhead. There are some great photos in it. I'm not sure where you could find a copy of this magazine (possibly by e-mailing Digital Grapes). So I've posted a a series of JPGs of the pages at our site: http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/RollerCoasterTalk/photos/browse/6f0b Jay From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Jan 28 06:53:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65959 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2008 14:53:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2008 14:53:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.178) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2008 14:53:03 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 14:53:03 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 14:53:03 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 14:53:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:53:03 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.178 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Lo-Q profits to jump 46% X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=nCw-VLDL9zewDzb7k8bMeM-RjYfUJ1Fq6Cs8_uIWD6EEU5Y X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 28, 2008 ShareCast Yahoo! Finance U.K. & Ireland http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/080128/214/hsbmm.html LONDON, UK -- Amusement park queuing systems supplier Lo-Q has forecast profits for 2007 will rise by at least 46%. Lo-Q anticipates a pre-tax profit for the year ended 31 December 2007 marginally in excess of =A3500,000, it said in a trading update. Cash balances at 31 December 07 are estimated at =A3620,000, it added. 3 theme parks installed the new VQ2020 guest queuing system during the spring of last year, including Dollywood, and the systems worked successfully during the whole season in their new operating environments, the statement said. An extension of its agreement with Six Flags provides for installation of the VQ2020 system into 4 more of the existing parks, as well as into a new park, Six Flags Fiesta Texas, for the 2008 operating season. The aim in 2008 is to win additional theme park operators as customers and expand the number of operators adopting the Text-Q system, Lo-Q added. ------------ Copyright =A9 2008 ShareCast From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Jan 28 06:58:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 36486 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2008 14:58:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2008 14:58:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n21a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.50) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2008 14:58:41 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n21.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 14:58:41 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 14:58:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:58:41 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.50 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Cedar Point to have new area of kids' rides in '08 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=hmgGqdMsmUKtbnArCg8stMd14Yo7hD29kWcClzUDpyYRwC8 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 28, 2008 The Associated Press Pittsburgh Post-Gazette http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08028/851201-37.stm?cmpid=3Dlifestyle.xml SANDUSKY, OH -- 7 kids' rides from the Geauga Lake amusement park in northeast Ohio are being given a new home on the other side of the state, at Cedar Point (CP). The park in Sandusky says the miniature train, mini-teacup-style ride and the others will be featured in a new children's area being assembled for the coming season. Planet Snoopy will replace the Peanuts Playground. CP's parent company also owned Geauga Lake but shut it down in September, citing low attendance. When CP opens for 2008 on May 10, other new attractions will include a restaurant with a kids' theme and an extreme sports show. -------------- Copyright 2007 Associated Press Copyright =A91997 - 2008 PG Publishing Co., Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Jan 28 07:04:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79059 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2008 15:04:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2008 15:04:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n52c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.186) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2008 15:04:03 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n52.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:04:03 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:04:03 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:04:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:04:02 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.186 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Bank forecloses on PiB amusement park X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=oT0AD7KuqGxmUlgxbcSa3Y_LtUN1KoeOoBzOg6TCOfaokAs X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 23, 2008 Port Clinton News-Herald http://www.portclintonnewsherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20080123/= UPDATES01/80123019 PORT CLINTON, OH -=97 Less than a year after an amusement park opened at Put-in-Bay, the bank that financed it is foreclosing on the property. But the owners of Tailfins Amusement Park said they are working with National Bank of Oak Harbor to pay back the $3.6 million they owe in loans, said co-owner Bill Neff of Put-in-Bay. He said he and his wife, fellow co-owner Lisa, are meeting with National Bank of Oak Harbor officials next week. "If everything works out, we should be open in the spring," he said. ------------ Copyright =A92008 News Herald From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Jan 28 07:08:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 4428 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2008 15:08:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2008 15:08:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n22a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.51) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2008 15:08:48 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n22.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:08:48 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:08:48 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:08:47 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Last stop for Celebration Station X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=-sS8PCfLO0v8jsKsU8VG_cYfRYmR9lk9GXoUP6_hABymSF0 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 27, 2008 KJRH-2 http://www.kjrh.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=3D0cfb9a60-1864-481c-9= 37c-a9149efad92d&rss=3D701 by: Prashanthi Musapet TULSA, OK -- Going once, going twice, SOLD! Celebration Station officially closed it's doors in December but it gave patrons the opportunity to own anything on site of the amusement park. Super Auctions helped organize and host the auction Saturday morning, placing hundreds of items up for bid. The public sale offered potential customers everything from arcade games and pool tables to batting cages and mini-golf courses. Some of those who came, like little Sabrina Rainbolt, brought memories with them as well. "I had my 9th birthday here and my cousin had a lot of his birthdays here. I think it's sad and I'm gonna miss it."=20 The family-themed entertainment center, located at 4518 E. Skelly Drive, opened in 1993 and covered more than 7 acres of property. Celebration Station still continues to operate in 5 other locations across the country, including one in Oklahoma City. -------------- =A9 2008 The E.W. Scripps Co. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Jan 28 07:15:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 92508 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2008 15:15:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2008 15:15:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.156) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2008 15:15:09 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:15:09 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:15:09 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.86] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:15:09 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:15:06 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Council members hear pitch for Pyramid amusement park X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=M7VPAxJTbasIotWIJ-khE127Pj2Yz7o3eGySFFnMVtpD-x4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan 22, 2008 WMC-TV 5 http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=3D7758349 by Kontji Anthony MEMPHIS, TN -- Investors pitched a plan to the Memphis City Council Tuesday that would place an amusement park in and around the Pyramid downtown. Memphian Greg Ericson introduced the council to his team, including Michael Burgess, a South African hotel financier, and Barry Funt, an attorney and commercial real estate financier. =20=20=20=20 Ericson pledged he wouldn't drop the ball and leave the city with the bill. "We'll put it right into the contract, steps that we'll take and benchmarks that we'll hit on the way of construction," he said. The entertainment marketing entrepreneur laid out a grand plan: to turn the Pyramid and Mud Island into 2 themed resorts: Pyramid Resorts and Harbor Island. In the plan, the Pyramid becomes an indoor amusement park with the fastest and tallest roller coaster in the world. Also included are a massive retail center and an enclosed path to the Cooke Convention Center. The unused portions of Mud Island would hold two 400-room hotels, with the historic Grand Carousel in one of them. Ericson said he planned to take on the historic Zippin' Pippin roller coaster, upgrade Mud Island Park and its monorail, add and renovate restaurants, and build a waterfront path to connect all the attractions. =20=20=20=20 Council members were hesitant to turn over prime real estate without assurance the Pyramid would come first. "Any deal is going to be contingent on solving the Pyramid problem," council member Shea Flinn said. "If it doesn't do that, it's not a deal I'm interested in." The team at Tuesday's presentation did not offer any documentation to prove they have the funding for the project. Afterwords, Burgess said initial funding was ready. "We're going to finance it initially with our own cash," he said. "The first 50%." Members of the group told council members said they would pay off the Pyramid's $12 million dollar debt, and the plan will not interfere with FedEx Forum's non-compete clause. Finally, they added, if Memphis does not move forward with the plan, someone near Tunica will. ------------ =A9 Copyright 2000 - 2008 WorldNow and WMCTV From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Jan 28 07:20:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 50426 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2008 15:20:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2008 15:20:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2008 15:20:19 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:20:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:20:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:20:19 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:20:18 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: MISC: Cedar Point 2008 live entertainment auditions X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=ML0u9kOX82lxwhJ2Fwoz2s5Qtk2UdoI1XB9Jhs0jbFxzPmA X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 26, 2008 NBC-24 http://www.nbc24.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=3D89086 SANDUSKY, OH -- Cedar Point (CP), the amusement park voted the "Best Amusement Park in the World" for a record 10 years in a row, is searching for talented entertainers and technicians during its 40th annual recruitment tour. Representatives from CP in Sandusky, OH, will be holding open interviews and auditions to fill more than 100 jobs in the park's Live Entertainment Division for the 2008 season.=20 Interested candidates can apply and audition on these upcoming sessions at the Cedar Point Live Entertainment Office: * Friday, Feb. 1 from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. * Friday, March 7 from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. * Friday, April 4 from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. With thrilling rides, live entertainment, special attractions and resort accommodations, CP is one of the most popular amusement parks in the country. It is located on a Lake Erie peninsula, midway between Cleveland and Toledo. CP's Live Entertainment Division has received 18 BIG-E Awards, presented by the IAAPA, for excellence in live entertainment. Representatives from the Live Entertainment Division will be looking for: * Performers =96 singers, singer/dancers and singer/musicians * Musicians =96 electric/bass guitar, drum set, tenor saxophone, keyboard and fiddle * Technicians =96 stage managers, ushers, sound and light technicians, stage crew, costume shop personnel and dressers * PEANUTS=99 characters =96 costumed characters and escorts Applicants must be at least 18 years of age by May 2008 to audition.=20 Each audition piece must be limited to 16 bars. Applicants should select music that is upbeat and shows off their personality and ability to interact with audience members. A CD player and piano will be available, but other instruments and amplifiers will not be provided. Interested applicants should bring a 1-page resume with references to the audition. Those who cannot audition in person can send audio and/or videotape along with a resume to: Cedar Point Live Entertainment, One Cedar Point Drive, Sandusky, OH, 44870-5259.=20 Reporting dates run from late April to mid-June, with shows running continuously through late August or early September. For more information, please contact the Live Entertainment Division at 419.627.2388, by e-mail at liveshows@cedarpoint.com or online at cedarpoint.com. -------------------- Copyright 2008 Barrington Broadcasting Corporation From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Jan 28 07:26:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 84631 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2008 15:26:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2008 15:26:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n16a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.121) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2008 15:26:03 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n16.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:26:03 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:26:03 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:26:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:26:01 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.121 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Luna Park probes ride breakdown X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=qF-EhHyDlP31JfokYHlxbwChTaGwD7kZyf2x8DlKccVD9wc X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 24, 2008 Australian Broadcasting Corporation Yahoo!7 News http://au.news.yahoo.com/080124/21/15mic.html MELBOURNE, VICTORIA, AU -- St Kilda's Luna Park, in Melbourne's south, is investigating a mechanical failure that left 7 people trapped on an amusement ride today. The teenagers were stranded in 2 cars on the 'Mad Mouse' when operators used the emergency brakes to stop the ride. The group was stuck 10 metres above the ground for about 15 minutes before the fire brigade rescued them. Kate Humphreys was on the ride. "We thought it was the person making it more scary, but then we realised we were stuck up there we ... got a bit scared," she said. The CEO of Luna Park, Mary Stuart, says the ride was stopped as a precautionary measure. "We train our people to act for safety and for caution and that is what we did today," she said. The ride has been closed to the public for the time being. ----------- Copyright =A9 2008 Yahoo!7 Pty Limited =A9 2008 ABC From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Mon Jan 28 07:39:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14074 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2008 15:39:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jan 2008 15:39:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.139) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2008 15:39:20 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:39:20 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:39:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2008 15:39:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:39:20 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.139 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 134.241.135.70 From: "jay_ducharme" Subject: NEWS: Coaster designer eschews loops X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=AcENjIWWuxegHzrd1hriV0A-7mZFGIAU1cR2Axc0RqwI_vXJAhpp X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme From the Onion Radio Network: Jay From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 07:49:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 75402 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 15:49:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 15:49:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.23) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 15:49:33 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n20.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 15:49:33 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 15:49:33 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:49:32 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.23 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: OP-ED: Frankly we'd rather go to Dollywood X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=7x0Hihq548zvdTYxgNYbwXY5N2S58uUaW1_5pV0IaDCt6Qo X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 27 2008 The Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2008/jan/27/usa.familyholidays?page=3Dall by Martin Love PIGEON FORGE, TN -- 'Go ahead,' says the grey-haired guide in a southern drawl so languorous it makes Deputy Dawg sound clipped. 'Ask hur anythung y'all waarnt...' I go blank, but fortunately my wife is less star-struck. 'Dolly,' she says, 'were you involved in the women's liberation movement?' 'Course I was,' comes the laughing reply. 'I remember when I burnt my bra - it took the firefighters 3 days to put out the blaze!' We are talking to Dolly Parton - not the real Dolly, you understand, but a computerised version of her that cleverly responds to all manner of questions with the appropriate pre-recorded soundbite. Actually, everyone we meet tells us that the tape is just like the real Dolly and that if we are lucky enough to meet her, she'll be just like our new best friend. 'She's just so natural,' says Jackie, who's showing us around. With Dolly's trademark white blonde wigs, painted face and astonishing 40" bust ('all bought and paid for'), 'natural' is not the first adjective you'd use to describe one of country music's most enduring and phenomenally popular stars. We are talking to 'Dolly' in the bowels of her Chasing Rainbows exhibition, just one of 7 theatres in Dolly's very own theme park, the brilliantly named Dollywood. It's not a private park, like Michael Jackson's Neverland; anyone can go - in fact more than 3-million thrill-seekers and music fans visit the 140-acre estate every year, many of them bringing their pets, who shack up at the nearby Doggywood kennels. What Dollywood is, though, is a monument to the diminutive singer's colourful life and her passion for all things connected with the nearby Great Smoky Mountains. And, like so many things in America, from drive-thru cashpoints to drop-in wedding chapels, the park confounds all your expectations. Gay men, embittered divorcees and hopeless romantics who are familiar with the Parton oeuvre, and fans of her outlandish, rhinestone-studded wardrobe, will probably think it would be illegal for a straight man and his family to visit Dollywood - unless we were kitted out in matching pink stetsons and knew the words to 'Jolene' by heart, but in fact (and this is truly something I never thought I'd write) her theme park isn't kitsch. In fact, it's rather tasteful. I realise that, to the legions of human magpies out there, this is sad news. But for anyone interested in genuine mountain music, authentic country cooking and the scariest wooden rollercoaster in America, it's a godsend. The park opened in 1961 as a small tourist attraction called Rebel Railroad. In 1986, against the express wishes of her business advisers, Dolly - who says she likes to 'do business like a man' - bought into the park, renamed it Dollywood, and jokingly admitted that she just needed somewhere where her extended family could be employed. Nestling in the foothills of the Smokies, it's one of the most unusual and attractive theme parks I've ever been to. Yes, it boasts extreme rides - the Mystery Mine drops you 85' down a disused shaft, while Thunderhead features 22 accelerated turns, 32 crossovers and plenty of 'hang time' - where your body defies gravity and your brain and stomach swap places. (Does Dolly herself ever ride, I asked an assistant? 'Er, no,' came the hesitant reply, 'due to certain, um, physical problems...') But in Dollywood you can also watch a fiddle being handcrafted, order an authentic wooden horse carriage, taste apple marmalade as it was made in the 1800s, sit in a 1-room schoolhouse or go to church. Then there are the 40 shops, the dozens of restaurants, the full-size steam engine... It's not your run-of-the-mill scare-you-and-fleece-you theme park. But what's really remarkable about Dollywood is the music. At a dozen theatres and locations across the park, there is a continuous programme of live music. From gospel to bluegrass and doo-wop to rock'n'roll, the place twangs with guitars and gravel-voiced singers. During the month before we visited, the National Gospel celebration was taking place, which featured more than 250 free concerts. We pick and choose our way from the glitzy Great American Country Show to the Smoky Mountain String Band and the Dreamland Drive-In. Our favourite is 'out on the back porch' with the Kinfolks, Dolly's own uncle and aunt. We cheer as the wizened but dapper Lewis Owens, who gave Dolly her first 'geetar', plays classics by Merle Haggard, George Jones, Willie Nelson and Elvis. 'Wasn't he the King of the Beatles?' whispers my 6-y.o. daughter. But for true Dolly fans, the only place to be is that Chasing Rainbows exhibition. Here you can try on the superstar's wigs, sing a duet with her on a TV screen and gawp at her cantilevered dresses. You can also hear about Dolly's extraordinary journey from rags to rhinestones. She was born to dirt-poor farmers, the 4th child of 12, and brought up in a dilapidated 2-room cabin on Locust Ridge in the Great Smoky Mountains, just a few miles from the park. Dolly still owns the shack and returns to it even now for inspiration. It has no electricity and no running water - 'unless you are prepared to run get some'. You can gain your own inspiration from the exact replica she's had built in Dollywood, complete with newspaper-covered walls, quilts made of off-cuts and the family-of-14's only bed. It was from Locust Ridge that the singer, aged just 18 and carrying 'nothing but her music and hairspray', chased her first rainbow to Nashville. Nashville is a 3-hour drive from Dollywood, so we didn't make it quite that far in our week in Tennessee. We did, however, manage to stumble out of the park gates and into the local town of Pigeon Forge. Anyone who has spent any time in a theme park knows that leaving is usually the best part of the day. But at Pigeon Forge, we found the stomach-churning ride was just beginning. While Dollywood presents a bucolic image of what America was like a century ago, Pigeon Forge presents a modern vision of the country that would give Hieronymus Bosch nightmares. The name Pigeon Forge comes from an iron forge built by Isaac Love (no relation) sometime around 1820 on the banks of the Little Pigeon River in an area that for centuries had been used by the Cherokee as a hunting ground. Today, the town unfurls itself for 6 gaudy miles on either side of a 6-lane road known, without apparent irony, as the Parkway. Along the Parkway there are at least a dozen crazy golf courses (we had plans to play a Pigeon Forge championship, but were defeated by the sheer number of courses). There are also at least a dozen multi-level go-kart tracks, plus ranks of malls, motels, pancake houses, donut drive-thrus and a 'Fudge, Knives, Swimwear & Leather' shop - just what every town needs. But even by Pigeon Forge's demanding standards, the winner of our 'Strangest Night of the Week' goes to the Dixie Stampede. Even if you were the adopted offspring of Louis Theroux and Borat, nothing would prepare you for the downright hooting'n'hollering weirdness of the stampede. It takes place in a vast barn right off the Parkway, and is what might be called, in another universe, a 'dinner and show'. About 1,500 people sit at long bench tables around an oval horsering. The show gets under way when 10 bison trot snorting into the ring, through clouds of smoke, to a thumping soundtrack. These are then chased off by yipping and yeehaa-ing women on horses, who do dangerous things while dressed in leather and spangly chaps. We then marvel as men dressed as Civil War soldiers perform headstands, dismounts, somersaults and swordfights - all at a gallop. Later, we pick our jaws off the floor as pigs race round the arena followed by running ostriches ridden by tight-trousered women, and finally a 40' screen appears showing Dolly singing her patriotic anthem 'Colour Me America' ('I see red when evil speaks/Spilling red blood on our streets...'). The good folk to our right all stand, their fists held to their hearts. While this has been happening, all 1,500 of us have been served dinner: corn, soup, potato and a chicken. That's right a whole chicken - each. Oh, and there's no cutlery. Or alcohol. But that's only because you can't really buy booze in Pigeon Forge; the town was completely dry until just 3 years ago. One night, my wife and I brave the taunts of our children ('you're alcoholics, you drink all the time') and drive 12 miles though the rain to buy a bottle of red in Gatlinburg, the next town. Just as you can leave a theme park, so you can leave Pigeon Forge, though 'escape' would be a better word. After 4 days of man-made thrills, we want to see what Mother Nature could offer. So we hire a car and, with the children looking longingly back at the bright lights and pancake parlours of their 'favourite ever town', we drive 10 miles to spend a few days in another park - the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. The park straddles the ridgeline of the Smokies, part of the Blue Ridge Mountains, which are the tail end of Appalachians. It was created in 1936, when the few European farmers who had put down roots were bought out. But their loss is our gain: the park encompasses 814 square miles of totally unspoilt deciduous forest. The Cherokee described these mountains as shaconage, which means 'blue, like smoke' and refers to the drifts of cloud that seem to linger in the vast creases of the steep-sided valleys. We hike to the 100'-high Alum Cave Bluffs, a source of saltpetre for Civil War gunpowder, and gaze, humbled, across miles and miles of soaring, tree-lined ridges. We keep an eye out for bears - the park has a thriving population of them. We heed signs that warn a 'fed bear is a dead bear' and take our picnic leavings home. We practise looking intimidating too - this is effective against an aggressive bear apparently, and a useful life skill for the school playground, I figure. Needless to say we don't see any bears, though when we take a horseback ride we do see wild geese and numerous deer. The following day, we head for Cades Cove, a stunningly picturesque valley first settled by Englishmen in the 1820s. It has been left exactly as it was when the park was formed in the 1930s. We peer into John Oliver's house, a 1-room log cabin, just like the one we are staying in - except that ours has a 48" plasma telly, a 6-person hot tub, underfloor heating and a full-size pool table, of course. We also sit for a moment in the area's Primitive Baptist church. While we pause, several groups of visiting Baptists get talking and decide on an impromptu hymn. The men sing out, the women weave their harmonies into every heartfelt line and the rough planks of the simple wooden room echo with their voices, just as they probably did each Sunday for John Oliver all those lifetimes ago. On our final day, we head back to Dollywood. The park is beginning to gear up for Christmas, and more than 3.5 million fairy lights are being readied. Rehearsals are also under way for this year's production of Dollywood's Babes in Toyland. Ah, a touch of kitsch at last... ------------ =A9 Guardian News and Media Limited 2008 From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 07:53:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 86358 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 15:53:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 15:53:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.178) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 15:53:13 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 15:53:13 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 15:53:13 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 15:53:13 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:53:12 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.178 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: MISC: 2007 Internet Steel Tracked Roller Coaster Poll X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=Lz2wPuhpHqksTcmKpb9nLOmtxkvFBNsJct6mMslSPBxb5eI X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 It's here, and it's ready for you! The deadline is February 20th - so hurry. http://www.ushsho.com/bestrollercoasterpoll.htm -Alan From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 08:09:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14958 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 16:09:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 16:09:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.205) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 16:09:03 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n17.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 16:09:03 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.77] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 16:09:03 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:09:02 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.205 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Six Flags considers selling more parks X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=rFXPgR02rpkUDOEzSVx8HaFWLpynY7fe088y3-cs4hxrVEk X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 28, 2008 San Antonio Business Journal St. Louis Business Journal http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2008/01/28/daily1.html?ana=3Dfro= m_rss by W. Scott Bailey NEW YORK, NY -- The financial roller coaster ride for Fiesta Texas' (6FFT) parent company Six Flags Inc. (6F) has taken another dramatic turn. Amid speculation from some industry observers that the deeply indebted 6F could be headed for bankruptcy, company executives have filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission a plan that calls for huge spending cuts and the possible sale of more parks. 6F operates an amusement park in Pacific, MO, along with 20 other parks around the nation. 6F CEO Mark Shapiro is leading the turnaround effort for the company, which owns 21 theme parks, including San Antonio's 6FFT. Some industry observers are skeptical, however, that Shapiro can overcome the hurdle of roughly $2 billion in debt inherited from previous 6F management. Dennis Speigel, president of Cincinnati-based International Theme Park Services Inc., says the debt load is a major issue. Last week he told the Business Journal: "You could bring back Walt Disney (to run 6F) and that company is still going to struggle." Shapiro, a former Disney executive who came to 6F from ESPN, remains undaunted. But he is preparing to make some more big changes. According to the company's SEC filing, 6F is prepared to slash media spending and trim personnel this year. The plan is to cut operating expenses by as much as $60 million in 2008. As much as half of that is expected to come from "marketing-related" cuts, SEC documents state. 6F officials, who want to cut loose one of the company's 3 advertising agencies, plan to reduce radio spending and concentrate more on Internet-driven opportunities that will attract more teens. Still more cuts are planned. 6F officials want to slash another $25 million to $30 million from operating costs by cutting personnel and getting rid of what they characterize as inefficient rides and attractions. The personnel move would result in a reduction of the company's "full-time (employee) headcount," primarily through an early retirement program, according to the SEC filing. An additional labor adjustment would come as a result of the implementation of what 6F officials refer to as a "real-time seasonal labor tracking system." The trimming may not end there. According to the SEC filing, 6F will consider selling off as many as 3 more theme parks if the price is right. Previous management shuttered 6F Astroworld. In June 2006, the Houston Business Journal reported that Angel/McIver Interests LP had finalized the purchase of the 104 acres where Astroworld was located. In 2007, 6F sold off 7 additional parks. The company still has not reopened its New Orleans theme park, which it claims suffered substantial damage caused by Hurricane Katrina in 2005. Scott Rothbort, a New Jersey-based investment adviser and professor of finance at Seton Hall University's Stillman School of Business, says 6F may indeed need to sell off some parks. "It's just a bad business model," Rothbort says, summing up 6F's ongoing struggles. "None of this surprises me," says Speigel about 6F's planned cuts. Nor would he be especially surprised if 6FFT or the real estate beneath it were eventually sold. Former 6FFT executive Paul Serff, now president and CEO of the Texas Travel Industry Association, says he has no idea what the future holds for 6F or its San Antonio theme park. "All I know is that 6FFT is a great park and an important asset to San Antonio," Serff says. Still optimistic, Shapiro took over as 6F CEO in January 2006. Early last year he announced plans to significantly increase ad spending and invest in new rides as part of an ongoing effort to try and steadily grow park attendance and revenues. In a March 27, 2007, presentation to Lehman Bros., Shapiro outlined an aggressive plan that included a hefty increase in marketing dollars -- from $59 million in 2006 to more than $84 million for 2007. That plan included a doubling of the amount of funds spent on domestic television and outdoor media. Despite Shapiro's spirited efforts and the increased ad spending, 6F experienced only a slight bump in attendance last year. The turnstile count was 24.8 million in 2006 and 24.9 million in 2007. For the 9 months ended Sept. 30, 2007, 6F reported a net loss of $142.7 million on revenues of $860.6 million. Full financial results for 2007 were not yet available at press time. What is clear at this time is that 6F stock price continues to fall. The 52-week high for 6F stock was $6.80 per share. At press time it had dropped to $1.55 per share -- in a market that has turned bear overall in recent weeks. Shapiro remains upbeat. He says 6F will continue to invest in its parks. And he notes that there were some 4h-quarter 2007 indicators -- modest gains in attendance and revenue and an increase in season pass sales versus the last quarter of 2006 -- that have helped create some reason for 6F management to remain optimistic. "We're looking forward to building on this momentum in 2008," Shapiro says. Says Speigel about 6F's future: "I don't know where this goes from here. But they've got to make some cuts and sell some properties." --------------- =A9 2008 American City Business Journals, Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 08:15:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64782 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 16:15:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 16:15:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.133) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 16:15:44 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n20.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 16:15:44 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 16:15:44 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.77] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 16:15:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:15:43 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.133 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: World's longest inverted roller coaster to run in Guangzhou X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=aUbksoXDgY4Ak3cUyEzjFSxXftkel2YDUfLHz5AWujV9Bm4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 2008-01-23 Xinhuanet China Economic Net http://en.ce.cn/National/Local/200801/23/t20080123_14332553.shtml GUANGZHOU, GUANGZHOU PROVINCE, CHINA -- The world's longest inverted roller coaster will start running during China's upcoming Spring Festival in an amusement park in this capital city of south China's Guangdong Province, offering the thrilling fun of falling 80 meters, the park said Tuesday. Xiong Xiaojie, assistant to the president of the Chimelong Paradise, told Xinhua on Tuesday that the one-km-long roller coaster, designed by Switzerland-based Bolliger and Mabillard for the park, will be safety tested on Jan. 28, and has a planned debut in China's most important festival, the Spring Festival, which falls on Feb. 7 this year. -------------- Copyright =A9 2006 China Economic Net From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 08:17:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 8628 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 16:17:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 16:17:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n52c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.186) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 16:17:09 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n52.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 16:17:09 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 16:17:09 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.82] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 16:17:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:17:08 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.186 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: NEWS: World's longest inverted roller coaster to run in Guangzhou X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=msiMtynB3PM516MHzgkdkME2tzSuDVrPxlgOHe3RVX9zj_Y X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Actually, if you look at the photos, it's a Floorless Diving Coaster. -Alan --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > 2008-01-23 > Xinhuanet > China Economic Net > http://en.ce.cn/National/Local/200801/23/t20080123_14332553.shtml >=20 >=20 > GUANGZHOU, GUANGZHOU PROVINCE, CHINA -- The world's longest inverted > roller coaster will start running during China's upcoming Spring > Festival in an amusement park in this capital city of south China's > Guangdong Province, offering the thrilling fun of falling 80 meters, > the park said Tuesday. >=20 > Xiong Xiaojie, assistant to the president of the Chimelong Paradise, > told Xinhua on Tuesday that the one-km-long roller coaster, designed > by Switzerland-based Bolliger and Mabillard for the park, will be > safety tested on Jan. 28, and has a planned debut in China's most > important festival, the Spring Festival, which falls on Feb. 7 this year. > -------------- > Copyright =A9 2006 China Economic Net From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 08:22:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 25811 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 16:22:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 16:22:41 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.145) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 16:22:41 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 16:22:41 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 16:22:41 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 16:22:41 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:22:41 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.145 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Carowinds finds a new home for Geauga Lake Yo Yo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=9p3H0r7ibI8fQAC91YWsCUx9lcJUQ1HTIMHAhkvommpU6yo X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 29th, 2008 Thrill Network.com http://www.thrillnetwork.com/stories_view.php/2141/carowinds_finds_home_gea= uga_lake_yo_yo.html CHARLOTTE, NC -- When it was announced that Geauga Lake's ride side was gone for good and that some of the flat rides and roller coasters would find new homes at other Cedar Fair properties, many enthusiasts started making their wish lists. Dominator found a new home at Kings Dominion, Thunderhawk headed north, the park's top spin found a new home out west among many ride moves and just this week Carowinds revealed that it has found a new home for the park's Chance Yo Yo. The ride originally debuted at Geauga Lake in 1978 and thrilled families for years. Carowinds will run Yo Yo (they kept the same name) in the County Fair section of the park. Rumors place it in the spot once home to the park's first swing ride The Whirling Dervish (wave swinger). Hopefully Yo Yo will be setup the same way as The Whirling Dervish, allowing riders to swing out over Flight Deck (formerly Top Gun =96 The Jet Coaster). Carowinds plans to debut Yo Yo in March. -------------- =A9 2001-2007 ThrillNetwork, LLC. Copyright 2008 Cedar Fair Entertainment Company From dougjnelson@gmail.com Tue Jan 29 11:01:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: dougjnelson@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 8457 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 19:01:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 19:01:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.246) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 19:01:39 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n20.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 19:01:39 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 19:01:39 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:01:38 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.246 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.98.250.92 From: "Doug Nelson" Subject: Re: NEWS: World's longest inverted roller coaster to run in Guangzhou X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=261787472; y=EMcoiVHRJg98JwkSua4qa9s45BrQXWLgvgoOsI63O4yj9TbMblctcXewMA X-Yahoo-Profile: fluffythegod3000 10-across seating at that!=20 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" =20 wrote: > > Actually, if you look at the photos, it's a Floorless Diving=20 Coaster. > -Alan >=20 >=20 > --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > > 2008-01-23 > > Xinhuanet > > China Economic Net > > http://en.ce.cn/National/Local/200801/23/t20080123_14332553.shtml > >=20 > >=20 > > GUANGZHOU, GUANGZHOU PROVINCE, CHINA -- The world's longest=20 inverted > > roller coaster will start running during China's upcoming Spring > > Festival in an amusement park in this capital city of south=20 China's > > Guangdong Province, offering the thrilling fun of falling 80=20 meters, > > the park said Tuesday. > >=20 > > Xiong Xiaojie, assistant to the president of the Chimelong=20 Paradise, > > told Xinhua on Tuesday that the one-km-long roller coaster,=20 designed > > by Switzerland-based Bolliger and Mabillard for the park, will be > > safety tested on Jan. 28, and has a planned debut in China's most > > important festival, the Spring Festival, which falls on Feb. 7=20 this > year. > > -------------- > > Copyright =A9 2006 China Economic Net > From dougjnelson@gmail.com Tue Jan 29 11:04:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: dougjnelson@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 85833 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 19:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 19:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n32a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.211) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 19:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n32.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 19:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 19:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 19:04:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:04:03 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.211 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.98.250.92 From: "Doug Nelson" Subject: Disney restaurants question X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=261787472; y=zUpXze52oxEfna_75-UfNVioMsCoOKmd4YBnYID_9c0JM3dRzqzlEJ9BOg X-Yahoo-Profile: fluffythegod3000 hey, this is to George or anyone else that knows Disney well.=20 we are going to Sea World with our 2 year old son on thursday, and we=20 were wondering if any of the restaurants on the Disney campuses you=20 could get to without having to pay to get into the actual parks. sort=20 of like the restaurants right outside Universal. specifically, one=20 that would be distracting and entertaining to a kid my son's age. any=20 suggestions would be great! From jason.asbury@gmail.com Tue Jan 29 11:05:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jason.asbury@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 68067 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 19:05:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 19:05:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO rn-out-0102.google.com) (64.233.170.185) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 19:05:31 -0000 X-Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id e23so414786rng.17 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.143.160.1 with SMTP id m1mr3565038wfo.90.1201633530880; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:05:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.110.10 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:05:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7e26cc900801291105o70564405w59cb718241991017@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:05:30 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Originating-IP: 64.233.170.185 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Jason Asbury" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Disney restaurants question X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=251299370; y=RYDGbmRqp5SSQr6W6Z4O-M2ElUkQSvDVjCZCmnVBHQn9blqo618 X-Yahoo-Profile: foxtrot1219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doug, The Rainforest Cafe jumps immediately to mind. They have a location in Downtown Disney and also a location at Animal Kingdom. Jason On Jan 29, 2008 2:04 PM, Doug Nelson wrote: > hey, > > this is to George or anyone else that knows Disney well. > > we are going to Sea World with our 2 year old son on thursday, and we > were wondering if any of the restaurants on the Disney campuses you > could get to without having to pay to get into the actual parks. sort > of like the restaurants right outside Universal. specifically, one > that would be distracting and entertaining to a kid my son's age. any > suggestions would be great! > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 12:10:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 6584 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 20:10:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 20:10:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n12b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.110) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 20:10:54 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n12.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 20:10:54 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 20:10:54 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 20:10:54 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:10:51 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7e26cc900801291105o70564405w59cb718241991017@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.110 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: Disney restaurants question X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=L7IouLRSKSdsNd4FrNv5L5ZWaz9JA_K0nLit1i9eoSI5TmA X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 I also think there's a bunch of stuff in Downtown Disney. -Alan --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Asbury" wrote: > > Doug, >=20 > The Rainforest Cafe jumps immediately to mind. They have a location in > Downtown Disney and also a location at Animal Kingdom. >=20 > Jason >=20 > On Jan 29, 2008 2:04 PM, Doug Nelson wrote: >=20 > > hey, > > > > this is to George or anyone else that knows Disney well. > > > > we are going to Sea World with our 2 year old son on thursday, and we > > were wondering if any of the restaurants on the Disney campuses you > > could get to without having to pay to get into the actual parks. sort > > of like the restaurants right outside Universal. specifically, one > > that would be distracting and entertaining to a kid my son's age. any > > suggestions would be great! > > > >=20 > > >=20 >=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From gburnash@earthlink.net Tue Jan 29 13:35:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: gburnash@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 35612 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 21:35:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 21:35:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (209.86.89.65) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 21:35:15 -0000 X-Received: from pool-71-122-141-63.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.122.141.63] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JJy6s-0005lP-RB for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:35:15 -0500 Message-ID: <479F9B77.4050809@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:32:39 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95f3a1acbbcf5638846e115e3e8cf45574bf435c0eb9d478f1589f7192fe2e2997f809760b0b2bb7ca0b2c0bc047c434350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.89.65 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: george burnash Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Disney restaurants question X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=115345197; y=EBuQ2YwP2kOTww_ryqENLBSLQu-K2Cb3B4a9gUDk5Zymweg X-Yahoo-Profile: gburnash Doug Nelson wrote: > > > hey, > > this is to George or anyone else that knows Disney well. > > we are going to Sea World with our 2 year old son on thursday, and we > were wondering if any of the restaurants on the Disney campuses you > could get to without having to pay to get into the actual parks. sort > of like the restaurants right outside Universal. specifically, one > that would be distracting and entertaining to a kid my son's age. any > suggestions would be great! > You can't go to any of the restaurants in the parks themselves, obviously, but everything else is fair game. That includes anything at any of the resort hotels (e.g. Chef Mickey's at the Contemporary or ESPN Zone at the Boardwalk). All you have to do is tell te parking people you're going in for dinner. Also all of Downtown Disney is open, and has free parking and open access. Rainforest Cafe is there, along with Fultons, House of Blues, and many others. The one thing I would strongly suggest, regardless of where you go, is to make sure you have reservations ahead of time. Keep on ridin' George From josh.wozny@gmail.com Tue Jan 29 14:16:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43797 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 22:16:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 22:16:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.181) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 22:16:30 -0000 X-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f31so2654655pyh.17 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:16:29 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.231.20 with SMTP id i20mr15537827qbr.35.1201644989182; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:16:29 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.135.14 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:16:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0801291416uf043e89ybb5695a406f353c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:16:29 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <479F9B77.4050809@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <479F9B77.4050809@earthlink.net> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.181 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Disney restaurants question X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=TMHU9Int1Iy_qMt2isUSWPuKtbR07BXHV6chQUMs4eFk6ojB5g X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not really making this as a kid-friendly suggestion so much as that you guys made me really hungry for the Earl of Sandwich. :) -Josh On Jan 29, 2008 4:32 PM, george burnash wrote: > > > Doug Nelson wrote: > > > > > > hey, > > > > this is to George or anyone else that knows Disney well. > > > > we are going to Sea World with our 2 year old son on thursday, and we > > were wondering if any of the restaurants on the Disney campuses you > > could get to without having to pay to get into the actual parks. sort > > of like the restaurants right outside Universal. specifically, one > > that would be distracting and entertaining to a kid my son's age. any > > suggestions would be great! > > > > You can't go to any of the restaurants in the parks themselves, > obviously, but everything else is fair game. > > That includes anything at any of the resort hotels (e.g. Chef Mickey's > at the Contemporary or ESPN Zone at the Boardwalk). All you have to do > is tell te parking people you're going in for dinner. > > Also all of Downtown Disney is open, and has free parking and open > access. Rainforest Cafe is there, along with Fultons, House of Blues, > and many others. > > The one thing I would strongly suggest, regardless of where you go, is > to make sure you have reservations ahead of time. > > Keep on ridin' > George > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From josh.wozny@gmail.com Tue Jan 29 15:15:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 86591 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 23:15:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 23:15:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.176) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 23:15:38 -0000 X-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f47so9095pye.8 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:15:38 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.64.243.10 with SMTP id q10mr64252qbh.15.1201648537793; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:15:37 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.135.14 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:15:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0801291515s2b969327ha6f7e947ff101e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:15:37 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.176 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Carowinds finds a new home for Geauga Lake Yo Yo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=-E8ekH0NJ_q9LkVp09j51vyRldn8GlQ6CYFczVKcY1uc5sH_wA X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now, this is a ride I remember riding as a little kid. It was always in the front area of the park (where the Starfish was in recent years, next to Steel Venom), and at night it was covered in bright yellow light bulbs. Man, the more I see about GL being closed, the more I miss the good ol' days. To be truthful, I wasn't too impressed with the place since the SFO days, it just lost a lot of the memories, anyway. Needless to say, I was no= t in the least bit surprised to see it closing down, and actually I kind of see it as being slightly overdue, given the state of the place in recent years. :( -Josh On Jan 29, 2008 11:22 AM, Alan wrote: > Jan. 29th, 2008 > Thrill Network.com > > http://www.thrillnetwork.com/stories_view.php/2141/carowinds_finds_home_g= eauga_lake_yo_yo.html > > CHARLOTTE, NC -- When it was announced that Geauga Lake's ride side > was gone for good and that some of the flat rides and roller coasters > would find new homes at other Cedar Fair properties, many enthusiasts > started making their wish lists. > > Dominator found a new home at Kings Dominion, Thunderhawk headed > north, the park's top spin found a new home out west among many ride > moves and just this week Carowinds revealed that it has found a new > home for the park's Chance Yo Yo. > > The ride originally debuted at Geauga Lake in 1978 and thrilled > families for years. > > Carowinds will run Yo Yo (they kept the same name) in the County Fair > section of the park. Rumors place it in the spot once home to the > park's first swing ride The Whirling Dervish (wave swinger). > > Hopefully Yo Yo will be setup the same way as The Whirling Dervish, > allowing riders to swing out over Flight Deck (formerly Top Gun =96 The > Jet Coaster). > > Carowinds plans to debut Yo Yo in March. > -------------- > (c) 2001-2007 ThrillNetwork, LLC. > Copyright 2008 Cedar Fair Entertainment Company > >=20=20 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bringing_saxy_back@yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 15:28:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: bringing_saxy_back@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 16016 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2008 23:28:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2008 23:28:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n3.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.130) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2008 23:28:27 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n3.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 23:28:27 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 23:28:27 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2008 23:28:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:28:26 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.130 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.59.78.204 From: "bringing_saxy_back" Subject: Re: NEWS: World's longest inverted roller coaster to run in Guangzhou X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=330369612; y=-JbRVs4Uq5szUcqK9P6LAYnPqYq2IqD6vuXfByqTa_dP5BxjQl5JPKMW6fUy X-Yahoo-Profile: bringing_saxy_back Wow.. At first I didn't think the pictures were supposed to be of the new coaster, since it says underneath "Riders seek thrills on a roller coaster in Guangzhou, southern China's Guangdong province, on Monday, Jan. 21, 2008." That makes it seem like they're just showing pictures of Chimelong Paradise. However I'm totally confused. If this coaster is about to open, you'd think RCDB would know about it - but it has 2 new coasters for 2008, one a Mack SuperSplash and the other a Mack Water Coaster. Why a park would one both of those, I have no idea. But there's nothing about a new inverted coaster, only a dive machine that's already operating. So it IS a dive machine... But how did they get pictures of it operating IN the article, when the article said it hadn't done it's safety testing when it was written? What is up with this article?! Somebody is wrong here... --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Nelson" wrote: > > 10-across seating at that!=20 >=20 > --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" =20 > wrote: > > > > Actually, if you look at the photos, it's a Floorless Diving=20 > Coaster. > > -Alan From jzucker@alpha-sys.com Wed Jan 30 05:20:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jzucker@alpha-sys.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 38557 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2008 13:20:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2008 13:20:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.175) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2008 13:20:26 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 13:20:25 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 13:20:25 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 13:20:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:20:24 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.175 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 64.242.6.130 From: "zucker0615" Subject: Re: NEWS: Coaster designer eschews loops X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=192106588; y=i7dp67xAwLKgvomn2nW5gm0YiHLZCdl4gWtnGRIliiEbKaiFmw X-Yahoo-Profile: zucker0615 Oh sure, they're trying to be funny. But, except for the last joke=20 about the bumper cars, I could possibly take that seriously. For fans=20 of "traditional" woodie (or wood-like) out-and-backs, there's actually=20 no irony in this. =20 Jon Z (it's not even snowing) The First =20 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "jay_ducharme"=20 wrote: > > From the Onion Radio Network: >=20 > >=20 > Jay > From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Jan 30 09:12:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 72543 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2008 17:12:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2008 17:12:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n1.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.128) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2008 17:12:26 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n1.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:12:26 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:12:26 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:12:26 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:12:24 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.128 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Theme park rides to be demolished X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=2ATIW3gXMNAeG9Mu2wgHuYKV6BphVN9UW7V4DoYD8zx3vKE X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 30 January 2008 BBC News 24 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/7217279.stm ILKESTON, DERBYSHIRE, UK -- Bulldozers have moved in to demolish the remaining rides at a derelict Derbyshire theme park. The county council said some of the attractions such as the Runaway Mine Train at the American Adventure near Shipley posed a health and safety risk. The park closed due to falling attendance levels in 2007. Spokesman Harvey Pearson said the land, which is in a greenbelt area, had not yet been sold and the council has advertised for expressions of interest. He said ideal uses for the site would be as a nature reserve, another tourist attraction or low density business park. "We're leaving some of the structures because it might be part of the resale. "We will look very carefully as to how we sell it," he said. The demolition and clearing is expected to take 6-8 weeks. Expressions of interest are due to close on 21 March. ----------- Copyright BBC MMVIII From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Jan 30 09:20:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 62454 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2008 17:20:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2008 17:20:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.138) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2008 17:20:48 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:20:47 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:20:47 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:20:47 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:20:47 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.138 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: OP-ED: Analyst sees Disney park pitfalls X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=KfhmoXdyVmoaKuWjy2lYQFonCFG0xUrK17iB72gvIWJccuA X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 29, 2008 MarketWatch http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/story.aspx?guid=3D%7B96C0FFB4%2D36F8%= 2D4BB1%2DAC92%2D593A5E9D9F8D%7D&siteid=3Drss By Russ Britt ANAHEIM, CA -- Shares of Walt Disney Co. dropped Tuesday after it was downgraded by a Wall Street analyst over concerns about the company's theme park business, and that prompted a rare response from the entertainment giant. Citigroup's Jason Bazinet cut Disney to sell from hold and reduced his target price to $26 a share from $36, saying that weakness in the company's parks business could be on the horizon. Bazinet said in a note to clients that the probability of selling out rooms at Disney's East Coast properties slipped during the last 3 months of 2007 vs. the year before. He added spot pricing for hotel rooms was down, and that weakness was spilling over to forward pricing. Disney hotel rooms also were cheaper to book 1-week prior to travel than 3-months ahead from October to January, Bazinet noted. "This suggests the calendar [4th quarter] demand Disney anticipated did not materialize, prompting last-minute rate reductions to fill vacant rooms," Bazinet said. Disney CFO Thomas Staggs took the unusual step of responding to Bazinet's claims. Normally, Disney and other companies don't reply to analyst reports or ratings. "Thus far, we are pleased with the pace of business at our parks, especially given the fact that we had record attendance at our domestic parks last year," Staggs said in a prepared statement. "Currently, our room reservations at our domestic resorts for the remainder of our fiscal year are modestly ahead of where they were at this time last year," Staggs went on to say. "Thus far, pricing of rooms at our domestic resorts is tracking slightly above last year." Disney shares were down 2.3% in recent action to $28.70. Bazinet noted there has been no issue with strategy or execution by Disney management. Instead, his concerns stem from whether the company will be able to sustain robust results at the parks. He offered one caveat: that he had similar concerns in 2007 that never materialized. "But now, as we enter 2008, we are getting increasingly concerned that Disney's strategy and strong execution may simply get overshadowed by macroeconomic forces. That is, as energy costs remain stubbornly high, the housing market falters, and equity values pull back, we think it's only natural for consumer spending to slow," Bazinet wrote. ------------- Copyright =A9 2008 MarketWatch, Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Jan 30 09:26:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30968 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2008 17:26:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2008 17:26:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n50b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.164) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2008 17:26:53 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n50.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:26:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:26:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:26:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:26:52 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.164 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Hard Rock Park is seeking employees X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=_2cYWGQOkM5PkZ7wZrPVCQW1dxeMUsbD2TPN-owtYliPXD0 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan 29, 2008 WBTW News 13 SC Now http://www.scnow.com/midatlantic/scp/news.apx.-content-articles-BTW-2008-01= -29-0013.html MYRTLE BEACH, SC -- Hard Rock Park (HRP) is holding auditions and a job fair this weekend. Auditions will be on Saturday, Feb. 2 from 12p.m.-8p.m. and on Sunday, Feb. 3 from 10a.m.-4p.m. at Coastal Carolina University's Edwards Arts & Humanities Building. Park staff is looking for rock stars, actors, improv artists, singers, dancers, stunt performers, costumed characters and rock musicians. Attendees must bring a current headshot and resume. The HRP Job Fair will be held on Feb. 8 & 9 from 10a.m.=964p.m. at Mall #2 (Waccamaw Pottery). HRP is looking to fill positions in food & beverage, merchandise, operations, cash room staffing and stage crew for entertainment venues. HRP deems itself as the world's first rock n' roll theme park. It will be comprised of a 55-acre park on 140-acre development, containing more than 40 attractions, including roller coasters, shows, children's play areas, restaurants, cafes and retail stores, a multi-purpose live music amphitheatre, and ultra-modern sound system specifically developed for the project. ----------- =A9 2008 Media General, Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Jan 30 09:36:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3179 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2008 17:36:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2008 17:36:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.172) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2008 17:36:50 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:36:49 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:36:49 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.91] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:36:49 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:36:46 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.172 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: MOA's Nickelodeon park to open in March X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=w92gVyUUWtNxlG3jHnD3j4nqRwx7Y9WsX-Ujkh0zRXiYBf4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 29, 2008 Minneapolis/St. Paul Business Journal http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2008/01/28/daily21.html?ana= =3Dfrom_rss by John Vomhof Jr. BLOOMINGTON, MN -- Nickelodeon Universe, the rebranded indoor amusement park at the Mall of America (MOA), will officially open March 15. Construction is underway on several new Nickelodeon-themed rides that will be added to the 7-acre theme park, formerly known as Camp Snoopy. New rides will include 2 roller coasters, the SpongeBob SquarePants Rock Bottom Plunge and Avatar Airbender. MOA will also feature a thrill ride called Splat-O-Sphere that launches riders almost 60' high before taking them back down. Nickelodeon also will open a 4,000-sq-ft retail store inside the theme park. The theme park was called Camp Snoopy from MOA's opening in August 1992 until January 2006, when the mall failed to reach a deal with United Media, one of the largest licensing agencies in the world, to continue using Peanuts characters and names. Since then, MOA has referred to the space as The Park at MOA. MOA reached a branding agreement with Nickelodeon last February. Nickelodeon =AD-- and all related titles, characters and logos -- are trademarks of New York-based Viacom Inc. ---------- =A9 2008 American City Business Journals, Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Jan 30 09:58:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64287 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2008 17:58:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2008 17:58:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n7.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.134) by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2008 17:58:02 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n7.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:58:01 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:58:01 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2008 17:58:01 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:57:59 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Plan for theme park frozen solid X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=XMu5AGXTy5-1HhhH45OwPw84ZSYi3p5AkGUtAkmJziXgB9A X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 30, 2008 The Herald-Star http://www.hsconnect.com/news/articles.asp?articleID=3D21553 By Casey Junkins WHEELING, HO -=97 Ohio County officials promised in July 2006 that local residents soon would be able to experience a "wild escape" at The Highlands. Now, 18 months later, the proposed Wild Escape (WE) theme park seems no closer to reality than it was that summer day when officials announced the project =97 and judging by the process to date, that may not change anytime soon. Add to that the possible $35,000 in fines the Ohio County Development Authority (OCDA) faces each day for improper work done across I-70 from The Highlands, where streams allegedly were filled in without valid permits, and it's easy to see county officials have a serious permit issue at the site. They have said the complications could threaten future development there. At the center of the WE holdup are Clean Water Act permits that have to be issued by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (Corps). Ohio County officials say they are waiting on approval from the Corps before they can move forward with the WE project, as they want to fill in several streams in an area known as Storch's Run. Filling in Storch's Run will require 13.7 million cubic yards of earth and cover up those streams. County Administrator Greg Stewart in December told the OCDA he expected a response from the Corps concerning the permits by the middle of this month. That didn't happen. Scott Hans, acting chief of the Regulatory Branch at the Corps' Pittsburgh office, said it is too early to say when, or if, permits will be issued for the planned theme park site, also known as Phase V of The Highlands development. =AF Planning for a WE Stewart said county officials originally applied to the Corps for the WE Clean Water Act permits in September 2006. "I am just really surprised at the amount of time it takes to get them (the Corps) to do these things," he said. Stewart still hopes the Corps will issue the permit that will allow the OCDA to create a level pad of about 125 acres to locate WE. "We have been waiting long enough as it is, so I don't even want to venture a guess as to how long it may take to get this permit. I really hope this theme park becomes a reality because it would be a great added draw to our site," Stewart said, noting that in addition to the roller coasters and water slides of WE, Phase V also could be home to hotels and additional retail centers. Hans said the Corps is reviewing county officials' responses to the series of public comments made in September regarding the proposed earthmoving work for Phase V. "We plan to get back in touch with them (county officials) to discuss this within the next few weeks," Hans said. He added there is no time-frame for making a decision on the status of the application. "Every developer wants us to give their application priority, but we have anywhere from 50-75 individual permit areas like this to work on each year," he said. Stewart said he believes the environment of the Phase V area is low quality. "If we were asking them for permission to fill in somebody's favorite fishing spot or something of that nature, I could see why it would be a problem, but that is not the case," he said. But Hans said Storch's Run flows into Wheeling Creek, which flows into the Ohio River. "You have to consider the entire area that you may be impacting with this type of earthwork," he said. Stewart also said the county needs to complete work on Phase V before beginning work on Phase VIII, which is located in the space between the Cabela's Distribution Center, Kohl's, Wal-Mart and the theme park site. "Because of the way we have to move the dirt to fill in the valley, we have to do Phase V before Phase VIII," he said. Stewart said Phase VIII is a proposed recreation area that may include construction of a baseball stadium. Meanwhile, WE President Steve Minard said he has been working on projects in Nebraska and Texas while waiting for the Ohio County development to move forward. "What I have always tried to remind people of is that WE is a very large earthmoving project. I believe we are getting very near the end of this permit process and should be able to get to work fairly soon," he said. =AF $35,000 in fines each day It was during a routine visit to The Highlands on Oct. 4 that federal inspectors discovered the waterways known as streams 34 & 35 had been filled. Hans said workers under control of the county development authority performed the action without permits being issued. Streams 34 & 35 are located on Lot 13C at The Highlands. Lot 13C is located on the south side of I-70 =97 the side opposite Cabela's and the planned WE site. The allegedly unauthorized action carries a penalty of up to $35,000 a day in fines. Hans noted the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency would have the authority to impose the fines on the county as it sees fit, but EPA spokeswoman Donna Heron said any potential fines would not be levied until the ongoing investigation is complete. Stewart said he gave the order to begin filling in the streams in question. "We believed we had the authority to do this work because it had been so long since we had heard anything from the Corps," he said. The county applied for the permit for the 25 acres of Lot 13C in January 2007, Stewart said. "Now, here we are a year later. I just don't know why the Corps takes so long to do these things," he said. Stewart refers to the areas where the county performed fills as "alleged streams." "With the little bit of water there, I just don't see why this is such a big deal" to the Corps, he said. Though he is not sure if the EPA will assess fines against the county, Stewart said any fines will not be paid with money from the county's general fund. "The OCDA will pay any fines," he said. Despite the problems with permits and fines, Stewart said the county is still optimistic about the future of The Highlands. "We think we have a pretty good thing going right now, and as long as we can get these permits, the site will get even better," he said. ---------- Copyright =A9 2006 - The Herald-Star From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Wed Jan 30 17:22:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 12435 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2008 01:22:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2008 01:22:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.53) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2008 01:22:24 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 71156 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2008 01:22:24 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: aBiCXU4VM1mVpE3U0Y1XkzpX9gB2cTiwAjjguL54GAd2PFtwlzPzHrgxDjoaesmJOpCyStu_5Tmu8yexyp.SQMZn.tyrCSZRFOzmOm4OXn1m66aWlnZRoIfj X-Received: from [72.70.245.48] by web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:22:24 PST Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:22:24 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk In-Reply-To: <1201710955.3888.4961.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <466730.67619.qm@web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.53 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: NEWS: Coaster designer eschews loops X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=9y1tNJ26hYztXKCVjp7WxJgZhq9WK5G2ycjqpySfxIo0ofznbMsi X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > except for the last joke about the bumper cars, I could possibly take that seriously. < Well, that's the nature of the Onion (and actually the world) in general; it's getting difficult to tell what's intended as satire and what's real. I thought it was funny though that the "post-modern" designer felt that loops were a gimmick on steel rides and wanted to create more simple pleasures. Who does he think he is? Dana Morgan? Jay --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Wed Jan 30 18:31:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 9019 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2008 02:31:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2008 02:31:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n30b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.253) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2008 02:31:04 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n30.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 02:31:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 02:31:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 02:31:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:31:04 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <466730.67619.qm@web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.253 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 138.89.128.156 From: "Mike Gallagher" Subject: Re: NEWS: Coaster designer eschews loops X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=LpgJ6T8Fv8dPajvPxkbuk71CgeU7LrghmvzJPR_p3IthaNlWwtd7 X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 =20 > Well, that's the nature of the Onion (and actually the world) in=20 general; it's getting difficult to tell what's intended as satire and=20 what's real. I thought it was funny though that the "post-modern"=20 designer felt that loops were a gimmick on steel rides and wanted to=20 create more simple pleasures. Who does he think he is? Dana Morgan? >=20 > Jay >=20 > Some time ago, a friend sent me a link to the ONION'S pseudo-news=20 article about a U.S. Visit by the Pope to a Six Flags amusement park.=20 It detailed his every action at the park, right down to reuniting a=20 lost child with his parents. As a Catholic, even I found it absolutely,=20 gut-bustingly funny..but just as funny was the reaction of several=20 people I sent it to, who thought it was legit. The ONION's people are=20 good at what they do. The "article" also included a mock photo of Pope=20 Benedict on a roller coaster, which I had custom-made into a t-shirt=20 with the legend, "Coaster Riding Is A Religious Experience." I'd be=20 hesitant to post it here, but if anyone would like to read/see it, I'll=20 be glad to send it to your own e-mail. It really was one of the=20 funniest coaster related things I've ever seen. I think I'll read it=20 after I finish this...=20 Mike > From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 31 07:12:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 73945 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2008 15:12:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2008 15:12:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n16a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.121) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2008 15:12:08 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n16.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:12:05 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:12:05 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:12:05 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:12:05 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.121 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Filing tells of horror at amusement park X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=D8sXOoVH0t8EKmsuce5ChgmIifFPPaySBNon4-ipsWubLlQ X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan 31, 2008 The Associated Press Yahoo! News By Brett Barrouquere LOUISVILLE, KY -- A teenager whose feet were severed last summer in an amusement park ride accident said in a court filing she remembers cables whipping against her body, a burning odor, and a fear that she might not survive. Kaitlyn Lasitter, then 13, said she felt like her whole body was hot and on fire. "I remember smoke and the smell of burning," she said. "I felt like I was going to die." She didn't realize at first that her feet were severed when a cable snapped on the Superman Tower of Power ride at Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom (6FKK). Kaitlyn described intense pain and a "rank, horrible smell." "I don't think at the time that I knew it was from my skin," she said. "It's like something you will smell once, and if you think about it, you'll remember it for the rest of your life." Kaitlyn and her mother, Monique Lasitter, gave accounts of what happened on June 21 in court documents filed Wednesday in a lawsuit against 6FKK. Kaitlyn and her parents claim 6FKK failed to maintain the equipment and to ensure riders' safety. In court filings, 6FKK has denied liability. Carolyn McLean, a spokeswoman for 6FKK, declined to comment on the statements because the lawsuit is ongoing. "The case is still being actively investigated," McLean said. The ride was immediately shut down, and has since been dismantled. Kaitlyn, now 14, said her recovery has been slow and painful. Doctors were able to reattach her right foot, but not her left. ------------ Copyright =A9 2008 The Associated Press Copyright =A9 2008 Yahoo! Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 31 07:16:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 69182 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2008 15:16:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2008 15:16:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n14.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.141) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2008 15:16:31 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n14.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:16:31 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:16:31 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:16:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:16:30 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.141 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Amusement park worker arrested X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=nJ6LYBCVgZzem0PthngmsufQzakXbOyIxThP7oMMVMocDYc X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 31, 2008 The Enquirer http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20080131/NEWS01/80131= 0378 BY Janice Morse FAIRFIELD, OH -- A Deerfield Township man worked at an indoor amusement park for children without incident for 5 years, and seemed to be a good employee, his boss says. But on Monday, police showed up with a search warrant and allegations that the man was involved in pornography-related crimes with juvenile employees. "We weren't aware of the situation," said Alfred Sims, GM of Wonderpark Family Entertainment Center at Cincinnati Mills Mall. Shift supervisor Armando Rivera, 34, remained in the Butler County Jail after being arrested at his home on a charge of compelling prostitution, a police report says. Rivera "was encouraging and soliciting other employees as well as other known associates" to provide him with videos of themselves engaging in sexual activity, the report says. He also paid them for still photos of themselves, the report says. In addition to the requests for images, "boys would come to his house and he would perform oral sex on them and then pay them," the report says. Police did not say whether Rivera met any of those boys through his work at Wonderpark. Police say Rivera had intended to set up a pornographic Internet site, but his plan "began spinning out of control." Sims said Rivera has not been fired. Instead, he has been suspended pending the outcome of the case. He did not say whether the suspension was with or without pay. No bond has been set for Rivera, who appeared in Fairfield Municipal Court on Tuesday. No further court dates had been set as of late Wednesday. Wonderpark, which offers games and indoor rides for children, has been in business at the mall since 2001. Sims pledged to "continue to provide a clean, safe environment" for families. ------------ Copyright =A9 2007 The Enquirer From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 31 07:21:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42655 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2008 15:21:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2008 15:21:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n19a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.48) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2008 15:21:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n19.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:21:15 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.85] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:21:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:21:15 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.48 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Park veteran is thinking big on MetroZoo's behalf X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=qr_7CR14x1TnlBGw3I9CzfboJaSYhVgw_W5MMt90SdVDYUg X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 31, 2008 Miami Today http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/080131/story-profile.shtml by Risa Polansky MIAMI, FL -- After opening a Six Flags amusement park in Mexico and transforming the Columbus Zoo into an entertainment complex, Manny Gonzalez says he's ready to take his marketing expertise and boost Miami MetroZoo attendance and funding as the new head of the Zoological Society of Florida. He was tapped in December to replace longtime President and CEO Glenn Ekey. The zoo's 600,000-visitor annual attendance falls "in the middle" of zoos nationally, Gonzalez said, with the country's top 10 zoos seeing more than 1 million in attendance a year. But he aims to set MetroZoo apart as "the best zoo in the world" by increasing attendance, developing water and theme parks, hotels and family centers, and by "having the most innovative educational programs, the most impactful conservation programs and the best animal collection." To support the zoo, he aims to raise $25 million within 5-7 years and $100 million within 10 years. ------------- =A9 Copyright 2008 Miami Today From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 31 07:27:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 24488 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2008 15:27:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2008 15:27:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n2c.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.233) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2008 15:27:57 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n2.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:27:57 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:27:57 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:27:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:27:55 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.233 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: PR: Family Kingdom Launches New Web Site X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=H_1JnuA00hSEmf2ZBMmFC7H8vmsp8bNrkT2yGo-iPNb91ZE X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 30, 2008 PR Web http://prweb.com/releases/2008/1/prweb661083.htm MYRTLE BEACH, SC -- Family Kingdom Amusement Park (FK) has launched its new Web site at www.family-kingdom.com. More colorful and user-friendly, the site has been updated with current information for the 2008 season. Visitors can view the park calendar, group sales information and receive exclusive reward coupons for signing up at the site. Located on Ocean Blvd. in the heart of Myrtle Beach, FK is the Grand Strand's only seaside amusement park. It offers a complete amusement park experience with over 30 rides and attractions, in addition to midway games, family entertainment and traditional park temptations such as funnel cakes, cotton candy and corndogs. Opened in 1966, it is home to the legendary Swamp Fox wooden roller coaster and the largest Ferris wheel in the state of South Carolina. "Our new Web site makes it easy for vacationers and group leaders to experience what FK has to offer," said Leigh Meese, president of FK. "The site is fun and exciting visually, reflecting the spirit of the parks and, at the same time, presents useful information, including an updated park calendar and group sales information. Photography of each of the attractions shows just how much there is to do at the amusement park and really highlights the water park's unmatched oceanfront location." The FK Water Park, located just across Ocean Blvd. from the amusement park, features 3 serpentine water flumes each with a drop of greater than a 100', two speed slides and 2 intermediate slides, all with a stunning view of the Atlantic Ocean. A Lazy River measuring more than 400' meanders around splash pools and beside a waterfall. Splash pools feature 2 rain trees, a multi-tiered waterfall and 8 kiddie slides. More information about FK, is available online at www.family-kingdom.com or by calling 843-626-3447. ---------- =A9 Copyright 1997-2008, Vocus PRW Holdings, LLC. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Jan 31 07:45:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 49421 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2008 15:45:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2008 15:45:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.102.101) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2008 15:45:43 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n18.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:45:42 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:45:42 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2008 15:45:42 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:45:40 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.102.101 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: More redevelopment planned in Gatlinburg X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=lZjUBSnZ2ALYwp_WAtZ1FWU5VqzPEyC1eY2ZUS3tkXptOHA X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan 29, 2008 WATE-6 http://www.wate.com/global/story.asp?s=3D7792406 By Kristyn Hentschel GATLINBURG, TN -- The Fun Mountain Amusement Park has been shut down since 2001. But on Saturday, it will be on the auction block as part of a city plan for an upscale development. And other new developments are also on the horizon. Christus Gardens, which closed earlier in January, will soon be the site of a $60 million condo project. Plus, a new mall is almost complete on Highway 321. And in 6 weeks, Ripley's is slated to build an $800,000 maze attraction. City officials met on Tuesday for a meeting called Priority Gatlinburg. The goal of the meeting was to help them plan for and deal with change. "We want to celebrate the accomplishments and to look at what we have not accomplished and to set about a specific path to reach those accomplishments," says city manager Cindy Ogle. Some of the accomplishments already made aren't in plain sight yet. "We've started undergrounding power lines in phases. We've got 4 phases done so far," George Hawkins says. City officials say currently, Gatlinburg is all about redevelopment and preparing for anything that may come its way. The Fun Mountain auction starts at 10:30 a.m. Saturday at traffic light #3. -------- =A9 Copyright 2000 - 2008 WorldNow and WATE From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Fri Feb 01 16:46:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 28289 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2008 00:46:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2008 00:46:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53107.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.57) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2008 00:46:12 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 21480 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2008 00:46:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: BF4L21UVM1nkafFInpuxLGTcOKkBLsnnSq4hhuTZ6cE7izpCJkrOUdaYDrSdqtYgU0AvmuTBYUHAFOmG7nw0xYZN6nBF36SQ64ToXtVr0cpn5UMh4g-- X-Received: from [72.79.237.242] by web53107.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:46:11 PST Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:46:11 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1201799747.2404.18662.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <123965.20626.qm@web53107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.57 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: NEWS: Coaster designer eschews loops X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=KpALdsC-dHxIv2nWs6udHMlR7LJXM-GuCDUvL1-KZBX8hbO1oUtH X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Some time ago, a friend sent me a link to the ONION'S pseudo-news article about a U.S. Visit by the Pope to a Six Flags amusement park. < I just tracked down the article. Thanks, Mike! That was indeed a good laugh. Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Fri Feb 01 16:48:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61686 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2008 00:48:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2008 00:48:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.58) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2008 00:48:58 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 50032 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2008 00:48:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ud6h9E4VM1mwvpYGyyPmyl_sHP7LifewsuSM6cUDwtj86cvsSMSoGhfseVXQt2VRWRhjJuXNv9FSMbbrITnj3pTVIYM7mJx2_dXbKTsjzdyWiFEvsyIMVwf6f.E9TwQO8X3yV7QbA64LDFA3CoyAtDg6 X-Received: from [72.79.237.242] by web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:48:58 PST Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:48:58 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <449657.49970.qm@web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.58 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: NEWS: MS to buy out Yahoo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=2fqoAwcGASi-ZK3nY4iphAPDfvaz4ddMrTpufzhVNcT4dl4xL3NP X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many of you have probably heard this by now. Microsoft is (supposedly) buying Yahoo. I just hope that this doesn't adversely affect our mailing list. I assume things will be pretty much left the way they are. But who knows? Maybe one day we'll only be able to access YahooGroups with Vista. Jay --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. 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--YCalReminder=W987KsDKnH2TiFCXdPXwUnYE61m3OJ1201935010-1-- From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 02 06:53:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 637 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2008 14:53:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2008 14:53:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.177) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2008 14:53:04 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2008 14:53:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2008 14:53:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2008 14:53:04 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:53:02 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <449657.49970.qm@web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.177 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: NEWS: MS to buy out Yahoo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=iZQWzArMFa5YKuZPMc7N8TIpvHSUUGoYzTtirH2fmAyJC9Q X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 (As I go screaming into the night) Fortunately for now, it's just an offer. But who knows? -Alan --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, Jay Ducharme wrote: > > Many of you have probably heard this by now. Microsoft is (supposedly) buying Yahoo. I just hope that this doesn't adversely affect our mailing list. I assume things will be pretty much left the way they are. But who knows? Maybe one day we'll only be able to access YahooGroups with Vista. >=20 > Jay From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 02 07:01:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 33252 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2008 15:01:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2008 15:01:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n36b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.150) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2008 15:01:19 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2008 15:01:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2008 15:01:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2008 15:01:19 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:01:18 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.150 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Crack blamed for Disneyland mishap X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=TCEo2FcZhNRJhQL-gPnV7d3i0m60n6pj82itZfe5WM9Flsw X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 31, 2008 The Japan Times http://search.japantimes.co.jp/rss/nn20080131b2.html URAYASU, CHIBA, JP -- A fatigue crack in a steel support column was to blame for an accident in early January in which a 300-kg plastic model of the planets fell from a parade float at Tokyo Disneyland, the theme park operator said Wednesday. No one was injured in the Jan. 8 accident. The park's operator, Oriental Land Co., said it was likely that a 30-mm-long, 1-cm-deep crack formed in the column last September but escaped detection in during an October inspection, allowing it to widen and cause the accident. Oriental Land blamed the oversight on unqualified inspectors from the company it commissioned to build the float. ------------- (C) 2008 The Japan Times From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 02 07:09:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98334 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2008 15:09:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2008 15:09:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.159) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2008 15:09:20 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2008 15:09:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2008 15:09:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2008 15:09:20 -0000 Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:09:18 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.159 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Disneyland unveils the Dream Suite X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=GRRFs0hCkvDsRBO9feBoY8t94ZDEzzxHgdhhiGNfP63hpL0 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 29, 2008 KABC-7 http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=3Dnews/local&id=3D5922263 By Lisa Hernandez ANAHEIM, CA -- A magical experience has just been unveiled at Disneyland (DL). Starting Friday, lucky guests will have a chance to spend the night at the new DL Dream Suite. From the smallest detail to the most overtop display the Disney Suite is a one of a kind experience. The 2,600 sq-ft suite is located right above the Pirates of the Caribbean. It has been transformed into 2 master bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, a parlor and a balcony overlooking New Orleans Square. There is one catch to be able to stay in the plush Disney suite, you have to show up at the park and hope you get picked. "It is random. Anyone can win at the DL resort. Anyone who comes through the gates would be picked by a member of the Dream Squad. They will then be brought up to spend a magical evening here," said Greg Ashton, Walt Disney Imagineering. The park apartment was originally built for Walt Disney himself back in the 1960s. When he passed away before completion the finishing touches were put on hold. The suite has been decorated just for Disney fans with decor tailored to what Walt Disney would of wanted for himself. "Some of the renderings were created under Walt's personal direction. We dug back into the archives and pulled out those renderings and used those as the basis for the design of the DL Dream Suite you see today. One of the cool things is that they will do a little DL after dark tour. So you can see behind backstage DL and some things that most people do not get to see," said Ashton. One winner a day is selected at the park through an independent sweepstakes. The lucky guest can bring in as many as 5 friends to spend the night. The winner of the DL Dream Suite will also be celebrated as the Honorary Grand Marshal in that day's DL parade. As guests settle in for a stay in the DL Dream Suite, they'll discover special effects surprises in each room. It could be a special tune in a striking clock, a sunset or a starscape that appears when the lights go down, subtle audio enhancements, or something totally unexpected. Disney is the parent company of ABC7. ------------ Copyright =A92008 KABC-TV/DT Copyright =A92008 ABC Inc. From gburnash@earthlink.net Sat Feb 02 09:54:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: gburnash@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 14920 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2008 17:54:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2008 17:54:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (209.86.89.67) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2008 17:54:56 -0000 X-Received: from pool-71-98-225-18.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.98.225.18] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JLMZr-0002js-Me for rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:54:56 -0500 Message-ID: <47A4ADD0.3040900@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:52:16 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95f3a1acbbcf5638846e115e3e8cf45574bf435c0eb9d478f1589f7192fe2e2931e408b5f10f254c3a54d3bffe1c63d5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.89.67 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: george burnash Subject: NEWS: Conneaut Lake ballroom burns X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=115345197; y=qXr0_XnPwDbt3_dn7qcRQX1bKkvgO5mQFqdO1NCoG8MMVOk X-Yahoo-Profile: gburnash very sad news to report- the historic ballroom has apparently burned to the ground. http://www.sharonherald.com/local/local_story_032213624.html Historic ballroom burns at Conneaut Lake Park Flames spread along midway By Jean Shanley and Jane Smith Meadville Tribune/CNHI Small groups of people stood in stunned silence at Conneaut Lake Park late Friday morning, watching smoke and smoldering embers from a fire that just hours before had destroyed the historic Dreamland Ballroom. The 116-year-old amusement park’s ballroom and some nearby midway buildings fell victim to the blaze that had begun in the middle of the night. George Glancy, a 16-year-employee of the park who lives in a home inside its boundaries, said he heard about the fire on an emergency radio scanner and immediately went the short distance to help. He said while he smelled the smoke and saw a small fire, the scene seemed quiet – but “all of sudden she (the fire) just took off.” The fire was discovered about 2:15 a.m. by two emergency medical technicians on their way home to Conneautville. Park Manager George Deshner was home when he received a pre-dawn call Friday, with the caller indicating Hotel Conneaut was on fire. Deshner called Crawford County’s 911 center to verify the information and was advised it was true. But while driving to the park from his Meadville home, Deshner received another call saying it was Dreamland Ballroom, not the hotel, that was on fire. He said when he drove through Conneaut Lake, 3 miles south of the park, he could see the flames shooting 50 to 60 feet high. Nobody knows for certain what started the fire. It is under investigation by state police Fire Marshal Dana Beckwith. Although he did preliminary inspections Friday, Beckwith’s probe was hampered by smoke and by some “hot spots,” said Deshner. Beckwith is to return to the scene Monday morning for further investigation before making a ruling on the cause. “At this point, it’s undetermined,” said Deshner. The fire spread through Dreamland Ballroom, into a maintenance building, and down one side of the amusement park’s midway game area, stopping at the Skee Ball stand before it was brought under control, said Deshner. The midway is a row of connected, more-than-century-old, wood-frame structures that house many of the park’s games and food stands. Behind the midway facades are storage areas for rides, as well as repair shops where amusement-ride cars are repaired, stored and receive maintenance. The Skee Ball building was destroyed, but the games inside were saved. Deshner said the fire department planned to knock down the Skee Ball stand Friday, but that was delayed until the fire marshal’s investigation is complete. Also destroyed were restrooms, a former jail area, and storage places with equipment for such things as pizza, taffy, cotton candy, soft pretzels and the funnel cake operations. About 16 fire companies responded. Gig King, chief of the Summit Township Volunteer Fire Department, said he expects the blaze to keep burning for three to four days. There was no fire insurance on the building, said Jack Moyers, chairman of the board of trustees overseeing park operations. From sonbeast1964@yahoo.com Sat Feb 02 13:08:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: sonbeast1964@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 9358 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2008 21:08:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2008 21:08:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web35704.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (66.163.179.158) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2008 21:08:25 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 10530 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2008 21:08:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: lz1QyWsVM1nXgxt7ih8ODmi1HCIHQ7LJd.kc3XybVrx4QJhYMcw3UNysd2VpGp3WM8F0cVzJDu8fwchjNEKcT74LVkYWI3CXRtUKiDxilE3JaWw- X-Received: from [138.89.128.156] by web35704.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:08:22 PST Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 13:08:22 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <47A4ADD0.3040900@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <23235.9493.qm@web35704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 66.163.179.158 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Michael Gallagher Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Conneaut Lake ballroom burns X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=299282542; y=j7_RIpbSXhf5k9y7gsRsoihYRQwvpdMWuPjhG-D9av4U5K5hnIqc X-Yahoo-Profile: sonbeast1964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit george burnash wrote: a former jail area, Is that where they held people who cut the lines for rides? Maybe SF and CF shoild look into adding this helpful amenity. Mike --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 03 08:55:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 34269 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 16:55:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2008 16:55:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.46) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2008 16:55:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n17.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 16:55:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 16:55:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:55:33 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.46 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Hopes high for park's new coaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=9OtrYnhZ9JfPPXc5HZsJTb25MwboEddfSLFp1a9TY-lSTkc X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 02, 2008 Michigan Live http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2008/02/industry_has_high_hopes_for= _pa.html By Dave Alexander MUSKEGON, MI -- Michigan's Adventure Amusement Park (MA) is advancing its reputation as a quality roller coaster attraction with the construction of Thunderhawk (TH) -- Michigan's 1st "suspended loop" roller coaster. West Michigan's leading summer tourist attraction may never become what its parent company has developed at Cedar Point (CP) in Sandusky, OH, known as one of the finest roller coaster parks in the world. But MA will provide visitors with a new type of coaster for 2008 -- a year that will test the strength of the amusement park and the entire Muskegon Country (MC) tourist industry. "This is going to be like Shivering Timbers in terms of a new ride and experience for our guests," said MA's GM Camille Jourden-Mark. Shivering Timbers (ST) is the park's signature ride, a nearly mile-long out-and-back classic wooden roller coaster that celebrates its 10th year this summer. The summer of 2008 will reveal how strong and resilient the MA-led local tourism industry has become. MC and the amusement park have had a string of years better than the last ever since 2002, defying both regional and state downward trends. The national economy, Michigan's struggles with the domestic auto industry depression, increasing regional unemployment and high gas prices will challenge Muskegon's tourist attractions. However, park officials and county tourism promoters say early signs point to another strong summer season. And MA will again be the critical player. TH represents the largest investment MA has every made in a single ride -- more than $10 million. Construction of the ride is under way after the structure was moved from a Cedar Fair LP park in Cleveland, OH, refurbished and set up for reconstruction in Muskegon. "I don't think people in this community fully understand the economic engine that MA is for the region and especially MC," said MC Convention & Visitors Bureau head Sam Wendling of a company that only employs 35 full-time staffers but will have 1,300 employees throughout the course of this summer. The 2,260'-long TH, in which 2, 20-seat cars hang from a tubular track and invert riders 5 times during the 2-minute experience, is slated to be open for the May 14 start of the 2008 MA season. "This is absolutely being marketed as a new ride," Jourden-Mark said of the coaster that was first constructed in 1998 and is the 2-seat version of the CP's 4-seat "Raptor." "A coaster is a different ride when it is in a different location." TH has captured the attention of coaster fans nationwide. The American Coaster Enthusiasts will begin their spring conference at MA May 14. At least 150 ACE members from Texas, Florida and Canada, among other areas of North America, will ride MA's coasters during that evening. Besides TH, ST is celebrating 10 years while the Wolverine Wildcat -- another wooden coaster -- has its 20th anniversary. The park's 1st coaster, Corkscrew, is 29 y.o. "Getting the ACE members here keeps the rankings high for our coasters," Jourden-Mark said. ST has remained in the national top 5 of wooden roller coasters worldwide since opening in 1998. TH was disassembled last fall in Geauga Lake & Wildwater Kingdom near Cleveland; that park becomes exclusively a water park this year. Designer and manufacturer Vekoma International B.V. of The Netherlands is overseeing the refurbishing of the cars and tubular track. Construction began in early November after the Michigan Dept. of Environmental Quality allowed the park to fill in a small portion of "Adventure Lake," the drainage basin in the middle of the park. TH is going up on the northeast corner of the lake between the Grand Rapids water ride and Wolverine Wildcat. The steel tubular tracks will be anchored by 337 cement-filled pilings that were sunk 40-50' into the ground, according to Steve Mark, VP of construction and maintenance at MA. There are 152 "piling caps" that are used to secure the various parts of TH. Tridonn Construction Co. in Muskegon, Hardman Construction in Ludington and Accurate Excavators of Muskegon did the initial ground work. Edena Construction Corp. of Ohio has started to erect the ride parts and will continue through early April. Each steel part is being sandblasted and repainted, while a new electrical system and starting station is constructed on site. Other local subcontractors include Ottawa Electric, Erickson Electric Service Inc. and Quality Contractors and Painting. MA maintenance staff are refurbishing all of the cars, including new seats and restraint harnesses, Mark said. Testing of the ride will begin in April with hopes of it being ready for a "media day" unveiling May 14 before the ACE event. Jourden-Mark said the park anticipates joining forces with a local charity for a "first ride" auction fundraising promotion. The ride also should be available for students at the annual Physics Day for area high school students. The Rock the Coast Christian music festival is slated for that first weekend, May 15-16. MA begins its season with 7-day-a-week operations Friday, May 23. Armed Forces Day is Memorial Day May 26 and Scouting Days are June 7-8 to launch the summer season. The general admission cost for all rides, including the water park, is $25 -- which is up from $24 that had been charged the past 2 years. MA is offering a new 2-day ticket for $44 that can be used on any 2 days throughout the season. "The 2-day ticket is by customer demand," Jourden-Mark said. "If people are from out of town, they want 2 days in the park with a overnight in a local hotel." MA is already driving business to MC for the summer season, according to MC Tourism Marketing Manager Jill Foreman. She said local motels are reporting strong pre-season bookings based on MA ticket packages. "The word from the motels is that they have never had so many advanced bookings," Foreman said. "Some high demand dates were already gone even before February." MA continues to expand its regional draw on the travel market. Southeast Michigan and northern Indiana are 2 of the fastest growing markets for the Muskegon park, Jourden-Mark said. And continuing to have new attractions like TH not only draws new customers but keeps repeat customers coming back, she said. Muskegon tourism promoters hope that Cedar Fair continues investing in MA with hopes of a campground, motel and indoor water park in the future. "As long as we continue to get a return on investment, we will continue to invest," Jourden-Mark said. ------------- =A92008 Michigan Live LLC. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 03 09:16:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 16092 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 17:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2008 17:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.102.101) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2008 17:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n18.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 17:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 17:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.197] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 17:15:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:15:57 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.102.101 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: 3rd-party bodies to check roller coaster, lift safety X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=r74sYB0DyZjtDZZNXGS-M9SF2PP2xiwGixJVqo-UWsHqSCw X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 30, 2008 The Associated Press The Yomiuri Shimbun http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/20080130TDY03106.htm JAPAN -- The installation of elevators in high-rise buildings and roller coasters at amusement parks will in future require safety approval from the Construction and Transport minister based on performance evaluations carried out by 3rd-party organizations, according to sources. A spate of serious accidents at amusement parks and high-rise buildings last year led the ministry to realize the need for new safety standards in addition to the current construction certificates required under the Buildings Standards Law. The ministry plans to revise the enforcement ordinance of the Buildings Standards Law, possibly this year, after examining the details of the current safety criteria. The new measures likely will target high-speed elevators used in skyscrapers 60 meters or taller, and "scream machine" roller coasters. After the planned revision of the law, it will then become necessary to obtain ministerial approval when installing new equipment or carrying out renovations. According to the Buildings Standards Law, it is obligatory to equip elevators and roller coasters with safety equipment. Such equipment includes emergency brakes and safety programs that will override normal operations when danger is detected. However, there is no provision stating in detail what the equipment should be or its specifications. Under the current system, local government officials check the safety of such equipment whenever it is installed or renovated. "However, practically speaking, the checking by officials is little more than a matter of routine," Construction and Transport Ministry official said. For this reason, the ministry will appoint a 3rd-party organization consisting of mechanical engineering and electrical engineering experts to evaluate performance. ------------ =A9 The Yomiuri Shimbun From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 03 09:22:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 97773 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 17:22:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2008 17:22:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n28a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.246) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2008 17:22:43 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n28.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 17:22:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 17:22:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 17:22:43 -0000 Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:22:41 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.246 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Fourth coaster for Thorpe X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=IUn1DBm3fq0iXrI3a-cBKHINK4hkhR09_mHXYyGfvcwDazg X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 31st January 2008 InterGame http://www.intergameonline.com/interpark/news/780/fourth-coaster-for-thorpe= / By Simon Fowles CHERTSEY, SURREY, UK -- Thorpe Park (TP), UK, has been granted full planning consent for its 4th high-thrill roller coaster, with construction set to commence in May. The key element of the ride will be a 'beyond vertical' 97-degree drop from a height of 100', before running through a number of thrill elements specifically developed for the Chertsey-based park. With 4 loops, the new attraction will take TP up to number 3 in the world for total number of inversions, following on from Stealth, Nemesis Inferno and the 10-looping Colossus rides. "Building on the successful launch of the park's iconic ride Stealth in 2006, the new roller coaster will add an element of edge to an already adrenalin packed breadth of thrills on offer," said Peter Ronchetti, GM. "We are determined to establish TP as the UK's most thrilling attraction and adding this development to our current portfolio will certainly do that." Located in the Canada Creek section, the ride will feature 4 inversions along its 2,362' of track. Up to 8 cars, each for 8 passengers, will feature on the 100-second ride. ----------- =A9 2008 InterGame Ltd. From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Sun Feb 03 12:33:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 74561 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 20:33:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2008 20:33:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n51b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.165) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2008 20:33:33 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n51.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 20:33:33 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 20:33:33 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.86] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 20:33:33 -0000 Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:33:32 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <47A4ADD0.3040900@earthlink.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.165 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.79.237.242 From: "jay_ducharme" Subject: Re: NEWS: Conneaut Lake ballroom burns X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=UnCvvCQmaAuP8YWuxT84e14VLsF8stzJzboO7B_7Wwz8QGEO_1JO X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme This is very sad. It's hard to believe that with all those old buildings and an idle park, that they didn't have fire insurance.=20 Perhaps that was a result of their cost-cutting measures. And who knows -- perhaps they will recover. After all, the midway and hotel are still intact. But it's just one more blow to the place. Jay From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 03 18:30:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 21968 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 02:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2008 02:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n46d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.172) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 02:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n46.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 02:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 02:30:44 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 02:30:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:30:42 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.172 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: PR: C. Thomas Harvie joins CF Board of Directors X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=PX-95sIAs39JSWSuK8DYetCwC4bTWLB2eWpLO-EOR_6q4f4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 24, 2008 Cedar Fair http://www.cedarfair.com/ir/press_releases/index.cfm?current_root=3D15&mode= =3Dstory&story_id=3D150 SANDUSKY, OH -- Cedar Fair (CF), a leader in regional amusement parks, water parks and active entertainment, today announced that C. Thomas Harvie has been appointed as a Class I Director of its general partner, with a term ending 2010. Harvie replaces Thomas A. Tracy who retired from the board effective December 31, 2007. Harvie has been appointed to serve as a member of the board's Compensation Committee and the Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee. Dick Kinzel, chairman, president and CEO, stated, "I'd like to thank Tom Tracy for his years of dedicated service to our organization. At the same time, I'm excited to be working with Tom Harvie who I believe will provide valuable guidance and counsel for CF in this challenging business environment." Harvie is senior VP, general counsel and secretary of The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company, having joined Goodyear in 1995. Prior to joining The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company he was VP and associate general counsel at TRW Inc., where he had served since 1976.=20 "We look forward to gaining the benefits of his years of experience and are very fortunate to have him as a member of our board of directors," continued Kinzel. CF is a publicly traded partnership headquartered in Sandusky, OH, and one of the largest regional amusement-resort operators in the world. The company owns & operates 11 amusement parks, 6 outdoor water parks, 1 indoor water park and 5 hotels. Amusement parks in the company's northern region include 2 in Ohio: Cedar Point, consistently voted "Best Amusement Park in the World" in Amusement Today polls; and Kings Island; as well as Canada's Wonderland, near Toronto; Dorney Park, PA; Valleyfair, MN; and Michigan's Adventure, MI. In the southern region are Kings Dominion, VA; Carowinds, NC; and Worlds of Fun, MO. Western parks in California include: Knott's Berry Farm; Great America; and Gilroy Gardens, which is managed under contract. Also included in that region is Star Trek: The Experience, a Las Vegas-based interactive adventure. ------------- Copyright 2008 Cedar Fair LLC. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 03 18:34:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 9611 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 02:34:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2008 02:34:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n19c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.207) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 02:34:46 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by n19.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 02:34:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.85] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 02:34:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:34:45 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.207 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: PR: CF Declares 4th-Quarter Cash Distribution X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=tDicgarwOxm5i5fXDonwnYpSr2sOSwBcosYB1BXRxw-F5Fw X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 January 22, 2008 Cedar Fair http://www.cedarfair.com/ir/press_releases/index.cfm SANDUSKY, OH -- Cedar Fair Entertainment Company (CF), a leader in regional amusement parks, water parks and active entertainment, today announced the declaration of a regular quarterly cash distribution of 47.5 cents per limited-partner unit, continuing the company's annualized distribution rate of $1.90 per unit. The distribution, which is payable February 15, 2008, to holders of record February 5, 2008, represents the company's 83rd consecutive quarterly cash distribution. The company plans to issue a news release announcing its 2007 4th quarter and full year earnings results before market hours on Thursday, February 7, 2008. The company will host a conference call with analysts that afternoon at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Time, which will be web cast live in "listen only" mode via the CF web site (www.cedarfair.com). It will also be available for replay starting at approximately 5:00 p.m. ET, Thursday, February 7, 2008, until 11:59 p.m. ET, Thursday, February 21, 2008. In order to access the replay of the earnings call, please dial 1-800-406-7325 followed by the access code 3831139. CF is a publicly traded partnership headquartered in Sandusky, OH, and one of the largest regional amusement-resort operators in the world. The company owns & operates 11 amusement parks, 6 outdoor water parks, 1 indoor water park and 5 hotels. Amusement parks in the company's northern region include two in Ohio: Cedar Point, consistently voted "Best Amusement Park in the World" in Amusement Today polls; and Kings Island; as well as Canada's Wonderland, near Toronto; Dorney Park, PA; Valleyfair, MN; and Michigan's Adventure, MI. In the southern region are Kings Dominion, VA; Carowinds, NC; and Worlds of Fun, MO. Western parks in California include: Knott's Berry Farm; Great America; and Gilroy Gardens, which is managed under contract. Also included in that region is Star Trek: The Experience, a Las Vegas-based interactive adventure. --------- Copyright 2008 Cedar Fair LLC. From munkye1972@yahoo.com Sun Feb 03 20:06:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: munkye1972@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 70511 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 04:06:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2008 04:06:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n26c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.218) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 04:06:56 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n26.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 04:06:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 04:06:53 -0000 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:06:52 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.218 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.162.44.4 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: NEWS: Conneaut Lake ballroom burns X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=124743306; y=2uAYLHjGLBIgwPSLXUynpPYEVcQxymzvfSNXdKIXVJRna9bIFg X-Yahoo-Profile: munkye1972 Across the history of amusement parks, fires were often what led to the=20 final demise. This does not bode well. I'm sure the lack of fire=20 insurance was a result of being so deep in debt.=20 Chris --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "jay_ducharme"=20 wrote: > > This is very sad. It's hard to believe that with all those old > buildings and an idle park, that they didn't have fire insurance.=20 > Perhaps that was a result of their cost-cutting measures. And who > knows -- perhaps they will recover. After all, the midway and hotel > are still intact. But it's just one more blow to the place. >=20 > Jay > From munkye1972@yahoo.com Sun Feb 03 20:10:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: munkye1972@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 80554 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 04:10:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2008 04:10:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n40a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.134) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 04:10:17 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n40.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 04:10:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 04:10:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 04:10:17 -0000 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:10:16 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.162.44.4 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: PR: CF Declares 4th-Quarter Cash Distribution X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=124743306; y=b8wZNERTVqDMJziUGLp-z7qMiykU1KzATKyddTpVqPmnX4KkOw X-Yahoo-Profile: munkye1972 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > > January 22, 2008 > Cedar Fair > http://www.cedarfair.com/ir/press_releases/index.cfm >=20 >=20 > SANDUSKY, OH -- Cedar Fair Entertainment Company (CF), a leader in > regional amusement parks, water parks and active entertainment,=20 today > announced the declaration of a regular quarterly cash distribution=20 of > 47.5 cents per limited-partner unit, continuing the company's > annualized distribution rate of $1.90 per unit. I'm finally reaching a point where dividend reinvestment is getting=20 close to by a new full share.=20 LOL.=20 I overheard that a certain competitor for CF may be filing for=20 bankruptcy protection at the end of this season. I can't say who, but=20 I think you can figure it out.=20 Chris From ioaspiderman@donkeyentertainment.com Sun Feb 03 20:39:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: ioaspiderman@donkeyentertainment.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 22695 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 04:39:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2008 04:39:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO outbound-mail-26.bluehost.com) (69.89.17.191) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 04:39:52 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 32223 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2008 04:39:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO box24.bluehost.com) (69.89.18.24) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 04:39:52 -0000 X-Received: from c-75-75-28-162.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([75.75.28.162] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by box24.bluehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JLt7X-0008DJ-T4 for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:39:52 -0700 Message-Id: <4E6BBC68-F550-48A7-AD97-D2FC80F00FE2@donkeyentertainment.com> To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:39:50 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Identified-User: {32346:box24.bluehost.com:donkeyen:donkeyentertainment.com} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 75.75.28.162 authed with donkeyentertainment.com} X-Originating-IP: 69.89.17.191 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Mike Filippone Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: PR: CF Declares 4th-Quarter Cash Distribution X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=197654127; y=nmCYv9uwL8Cqvthnyj47uMo2Btc5KCg2OXvrxoAevT97CdJl_mBW X-Yahoo-Profile: ioaspiderman >> SANDUSKY, OH -- Cedar Fair Entertainment Company (CF), a leader in >> regional amusement parks, water parks and active entertainment, > today >> announced the declaration of a regular quarterly cash distribution > of >> 47.5 cents per limited-partner unit, continuing the company's >> annualized distribution rate of $1.90 per unit. > > I'm finally reaching a point where dividend reinvestment is getting > close to by a new full share. > > LOL. > > I overheard that a certain competitor for CF may be filing for > bankruptcy protection at the end of this season. I can't say who, but > I think you can figure it out. Airlines file for bankruptcy all the time, I wonder what will happen if the unnamed company does that... I don't know too much about businesses. On a side note, CP is adding a new kids area this year, or something like that. If the trend of copying continues, I wonder how long CF will go before they file as well. I'm guessing gas prices this year aren't going to help either company. On another side note, last week I flew down to Orlando, and the plane was full to capacity -- about half the plane was full of kids in mouse ears (shouldn't they be wearing those on the trip back?), and the other half was their parents. It made me wonder how many of those parents would be taking their kids to SF and other parks, if it wasn't for them spending a large chunk of money by following the increasingly prevalent idea that going to WDW is a right of passage for kids. Wouldn't it be ironic if the parks half responsible for revitalizing parks also helped contribute to their 'not-doing-so-great' era. Mike ioaspiderman@donkeyentertainment.com From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 04 09:27:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 35748 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 17:27:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2008 17:27:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n8.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.135) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 17:27:34 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n8.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 17:27:34 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 17:27:34 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 17:27:33 -0000 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:27:32 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.135 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Theme parks in Cebu X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=9ND0pL0G5XeWFvKsZbNtFZBHFkVmjZGoLFhCcHQpK2W5zDE X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 04, 2008 Sun-Star http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/02/04/bus/theme.parks.in.cebu.htm= l CEBU, PHILIPPINES -- Cebu can maximize its potential as a leisure destination in Asia if it has more entertainment facilities, such as theme parks, a tourism official said. Department of Tourism (DOT) 7 Director Patria Aurora Roa said the presence of family-oriented theme parks, like Hong Kong Disneyland, would entice the market for leisure-seeking tourists. "Hong Kong has Disneyland, Singapore has Sea World. These countries have their own good theme parks. In Cebu, we don't have one," Roa said in an interview. "A theme park can attract the whole family to come, whether from the Philippines or abroad" she added. Roa said that while the idea of a theme park is feasible, the availability of land for such investment remains to be a huge concern. She said the 290-hectare South Road Properties (SRP) would be a good site but investors would have to determine first the viability of establishing an entertainment center there, "similar to Disneyland or Sea World." "It should be a world-class theme park with a Filipino touch," she said. She added that this type of theme park should be "unique" yet at par with international standards. It should be more than carnival type development with only ferris wheels and carousels as amenities. Roa admitted, though, that having a world class theme park in Cebu "would not be happening soon" as such facility would involve a large investment from a private developer. It is the role of the local government units and the Cebu Investments and Promotions Center to invite potential investors for this project and provide certain incentives, she said. Roa echoed the statement made earlier by Shangri-la's Mactan Island Resort and Spa general manager Timothy Wright that there is a need for Cebu to develop more attractions, aside from the traditional tourism itineraries like cultural and heritage tours. Although Cebu - as a resort destination - is primarily known for white beaches, furniture products, rich cultural heritage and festivities, it has nothing more to offer to visiting tourists, Wright had said. Roa said the province "with its inviting tropical environment" could be a potential destination for a "smaller" Disneyland-type of theme park. Enchanted Kingdom Inc. earlier expressed interest to expand in Cebu and invest in a facility that will cater to the Visayas and Mindanao markets. However, Enchanted Kingdom Inc. president and chairman Mario Mamon said while the company considers Cebu as an attractive area for a theme park, it has to defer the plan as the project would not be "an easy investment." "But we will continue to study the market and see what happens," he said earlier. ------------ =A9 Copyright 2007 Sun.Star Publishing, Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 04 09:38:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 5795 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 17:38:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2008 17:38:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.49) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 17:38:24 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n20.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 17:38:24 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 17:38:24 -0000 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:38:21 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.49 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: PR: Splash Planet Success X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=SfuIyzmk-yKhSPVygRhrKVmC4j71gDbNXAJXnV0_LOF6blQ X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 4 February 2008 Press Release: Splash Planet Scoop Independent News http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK0802/S00043.htm HASTINGS, NZ -- Long sunny days, a `locals' card offering half-price admission and a better understanding of all Splash Planet (SP) has to offer have meant the water theme park has experienced its best season yet. Tens of thousands of guests have visited SP since the season started on Monday 19 November. On its best day, Thursday 3 January, 2,700 visitors came through the gates. SP's Manager Vicki Munro said the atmosphere in the Park had been buzzing all season. "We have had a particularly good season. A big pull has been the locals' club card. The amount of positive feedback we've received from visitors is testament to how well the team has worked together this summer," said Munro. SP employed 64 seasonal staff. Vicki Munro also said awareness around SP's offering had grown. "We consistently get comments from guests who say they are truly amazed with the facility. There's a lot on offer here besides the pools and slides." The summer season concludes on Waitangi Day Wednesday 6 February but SP will be open every weekend until Easter and then throughout the Easter break (21-24 March). Operations Manager, Peran Hutchings, said it made financial sense to keep SP open during the weekends. "Most of our customers are kids and when they go back to school it isn't economically viable for us to be open during the week. It works well to close during the week, cut down our costs and push our resources into making the rest of the summer weekends really fantastic," said Hutchings. The weekday closure was trialled last season and proved to be successful with large numbers enjoying the last of the summer sunshine during the weekend. 69,081 customers visited the park during the season (up to 31 Jan 08), compared with 49,557 customers last year. 2948 Club cards were purchased to date, already up by 1778 on the previous season. 36,238 children came into the park along with 30,956 adults. From dougjnelson@gmail.com Mon Feb 04 13:41:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: dougjnelson@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 57477 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 21:41:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2008 21:41:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n25c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.216) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 21:41:39 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n25.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 21:41:39 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2008 21:41:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:41:38 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4E6BBC68-F550-48A7-AD97-D2FC80F00FE2@donkeyentertainment.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.216 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.98.250.92 From: "Doug Nelson" Subject: Re: PR: CF Declares 4th-Quarter Cash Distribution X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=261787472; y=kfOdJxysK6uhf65PFLCq0rYtxHll69TBYrQr7Dyb9e3oXpmhAbnL-u__oQ X-Yahoo-Profile: fluffythegod3000 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, Mike Filippone=20 wrote: > On another side note, last week I flew down to Orlando, and the=20 plane=20=20 > was full to capacity -- about half the plane was full of kids in=20 mouse=20=20 > ears (shouldn't they be wearing those on the trip back?), and the=20=20 > other half was their parents. my sister-in-law just had the same experience this past weekend. and=20 she lives in a town with a puddle-jumper airport, so for the 3rd rate=20 airline she took to be full for orlando is quite a feat.=20 > It made me wonder how many of those=20=20 > parents would be taking their kids to SF and other parks, if it=20 wasn't=20=20 > for them spending a large chunk of money by following the=20 increasingly=20=20 > prevalent idea that going to WDW is a right of passage for kids.=20=20=20 > Wouldn't it be ironic if the parks half responsible for=20 revitalizing=20=20 > parks also helped contribute to their 'not-doing-so-great' era. but keep in mind, orlando isnt just WDW and its subsidiary parks. its=20 a lot cheaper and easier to go to one city and visit a bunch of parks=20 all nearby (Universal, Seaworld, etc) than drive from one town to=20 another that has only one park in it. if you have limited time and=20 funds, its better for a family to get in maximium enjoyment and=20 minimal travel time (and gas prices), which orlando provides. besides, id say most tourists this time of year are from europe. the=20 euro will get you a lot of US dollar value, so they might as well=20 milk it and vacation here.=20 From cameron@buzzneon.com Mon Feb 04 13:46:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: cameron@buzzneon.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98488 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 21:46:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Feb 2008 21:46:39 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.9) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 21:46:39 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 17811 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 21:46:35 -0000 X-Received: from 74-94-116-170-chicago201-il.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (HELO [192.168.1.48]) (buzzneon@[74.94.116.170]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Feb 2008 21:46:35 -0000 Message-ID: <47A787B3.4020403@buzzneon.com> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:46:27 -0600 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Cameron Silver Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: PR: CF Declares 4th-Quarter Cash Distribution X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=54528050; y=TPs7ZWqaFD28QqwhHwzkUi6jNPn0VpjtWuTygyc-ofWLsoaL X-Yahoo-Profile: buzz_neon > another that has only one park in it. if you have limited time and > funds, its better for a family to get in maximium enjoyment and > minimal travel time (and gas prices), which orlando provides. I don't think anyone with limited funds can get anywhere near Disney (and let's be honest - Disney doesn't want them). I do agree with your comment for the most part, except for the "limited funds" bit. My upcoming weekend in LA will likely cost me more than the 5 day road trip I'm taking (with 2 more people) in June! I do like Disney, but the amount of money they suck out of people is pretty out of whack with what you get. Cameron. From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Mon Feb 04 16:28:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 99388 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2008 00:28:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2008 00:28:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.58) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2008 00:28:07 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 54339 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2008 00:28:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: bAVoYZoVM1klDub8ujYJhxnMxI4ltKI6wgBKkb7PH4PxyBq0WFkWNFKUPcOBTnvaj47mCNi7PadW_ME2WK6IbroV2VlMKVRYXQJhJUmoxeQ4Wbtfxdk- X-Received: from [72.79.237.242] by web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:28:07 PST Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:28:07 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1202160309.2269.36307.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <408517.53218.qm@web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.58 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: UPDATE: Hopes high for park's new coaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=sQ5Zmb1vhk2TJeGGj4JU-jsbzqBEZ0fPvppHxO40yjTrahzrC31W X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > "A coaster is a different ride when it is in a different location." < Unless of course it's a Vekoma SLC... :-P >"This is absolutely being marketed as a new ride," Jourden-Mark said of the coaster that was first constructed in 1998 and is the 2-seat version of the CP's 4-seat "Raptor." < How else are they going to market it? "Used piece of junk?" I think they're laying on the hyperbole a little thick with the Raptor comparison, though. > Besides TH, ST is celebrating 10 years while the Wolverine Wildcat < Now *that's* a coaster worth talking about, probably the best design Curtis Summers ever came up with. Oh yeah, and ST is pretty good too. :-) > Construction began in early November after the Michigan Dept. of Environmental Quality allowed the park to fill in a small portion of "Adventure Lake," the drainage basin in the middle of the park. < LOL! I never knew they called that giant rectangular pool "Adventure Lake." I was always curious why they never utilized it more, had paddle boats there or something. > Jourden-Mark said the park anticipates joining forces with a local charity for a "first ride" auction fundraising promotion. < Preferable a charity that works on cures for serious head injuries.... Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From m.e.cowan@gmail.com Tue Feb 05 05:52:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: m.e.cowan@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45564 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2008 13:52:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2008 13:52:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.175) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2008 13:52:33 -0000 X-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id t39so171882ugd.6 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:52:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.67.115.17 with SMTP id s17mr1279437ugm.56.1202219552975; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:52:32 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.67.102.5 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 05:52:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ab4641f0802050552i10d17813vfe6c65a6da8a348a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:52:32 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <408517.53218.qm@web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1202160309.2269.36307.m45@yahoogroups.com> <408517.53218.qm@web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 66.249.92.175 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Michael Cowan" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: UPDATE: Hopes high for park's new coaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=284040117; y=4DcynfEM5hm8rjZHuN8oIA66odNm_HHfncsg6bgV4U9I-YY X-Yahoo-Profile: mike_ska > > > Construction began in early November after the Michigan Dept. of > Environmental Quality allowed the park to fill in a small portion of > "Adventure Lake," the drainage basin in the middle of the park. < > > LOL! I never knew they called that giant rectangular pool "Adventure Lake." > I was always curious why they never utilized it more, had paddle boats there > or something. > > Jay > Doesn't that lake have a problem with salmonella or something equally as bad? I thought I remember that from the news a few years ago. When I visited that park the lake in the middle looked absolutely disgusting. -Mike From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 05 06:37:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 21593 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2008 14:37:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2008 14:37:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.134) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2008 14:37:51 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n20.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 14:37:51 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 14:37:51 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 14:37:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:37:50 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Local amusement park ready for large applicant pool X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=TOSOtsB2rB1bMIcj9BtKfr0ZjDq5vviBR1GSKVI37ZjonSc X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 4, 2008 WFIE News-14 http://www.14wfie.com/global/story.asp?s=3D7819363 By Louis La Plante SANTA CLAUSE, IN -- Officials from Holiday World & Splashin' Safari, an amusement park in nearby Santa Claus, Ind., expect a record number of job applications in February when they lead 4 job fairs to fill 1,700 seasonal positions. Held at Holiday World in Spencer County, park employers are looking for various positions including lifeguards, ride operators, sweepers, and merchants. Department representatives will conduct interviews at the fairs. The Job Fairs will be held Sat., Feb. 16 from 10 a.m.-1 p.m.; Sun., Feb. 17 from 10 a.m.-noon; Tues., Feb. 19 from 1-5 p.m.; and Sat., Feb. 23 from 9 a.m.-noon. Auditions for the amusement park's musical will be held on Feb. 15 at Towne Square Mall in Owensboro, Ky., from 5-9 p.m. Applications are available online at www.holidayworld.com/jobs. Holiday World opens on May 3, and Splashin' Safari, the water park, opens May 10. ---------- =A9 Copyright 2000 - 2008 WorldNow and WFIE From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 05 06:50:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45852 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2008 14:50:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2008 14:50:23 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.102.101) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2008 14:50:22 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n18.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 14:50:22 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 14:50:22 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 14:50:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:50:21 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.102.101 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Fire Marshall - No evidence of arson X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=fMRzjrgJ2hFLC4W_UUqAH2cwzz45YaSH8bRmIfPSADbY6Fo X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 05, 2008 The Meadville Tribune http://www.meadvilletribune.com/local/local_story_035205752.html By Jane Smith CONNEAUT LAKE, PA -=97 Even though "arson" is the word most often heard on the street, Friday's fire at Conneaut Lake Park (CLP) was so large, so hot and so destructive that even a point of origin for the blaze is impossible to detect. So, after a detailed investigation =97 and conceding that indeed it might have been the work of an arsonist =97 officials had to settle for "undetermined" as the cause on Monday morning. A Pennsylvania State Police fire marshal, along with Peter Albaugh, assistant chief of Summit Township Volunteer Fire Department who also serves as a local fire marshal, sifted through the ashes and debris of Dreamland Ballroom, attempting to determine what caused the catastrophic fire that claimed the historic building and a number of midway stands at the 116-y.o. amusement park. "The ruling is undetermined (cause)," said the state police fire marshal. "I can't rule out accidental and I can't rule out arson, but I can't rule it (in) either," he said. "It's a big structure and the fire was well advanced before it was discovered." Albaugh said although many people have told him "we think this is arson," he said no evidence was found to make that ruling. He asks anyone with information or evidence suggesting arson as the cause to provide it; "we will share it with the state and pursue it." The fire was discovered about 2 a.m. Friday by 2 members of Conneaut Lake Area Ambulance Service, who were on their way home from a medical call in Conneautville, said Albaugh. Albaugh, whose Summit company was first on the scene, said the "smoke was so thick on (Route) 618, it was like fog. The wind was coming from the southeast and blowing all the smoke right up Reed Avenue. (The ambulance crew) came into the park to determine what was producing all the smoke and saw the flames. They could not see them from the (main) road." "When the first engine arrived, the smoke was so thick they (firefighters) could barely see the end of the road," said Albaugh describing the conditions the morning of the fire. As soon as firefighters got around the north side of the building, the smoke "was all cleared up" (on that side)." Pointing to the remains of the building, he explained that the wind was the main reason one side of the buildings suffered more damage than the other. Noting the large open space inside the ballroom, Albaugh said gases and smoke collected in the rafters for some time. Firefighters were using thermal imaging equipment inside the building when temperatures reached "1,500-plus degrees," and "less than minutes later the building started to collapse," said Albaugh. The result of all this is that investigators "don't have a point of origin (of the fire)," he said, noting they have "to rely on eyewitnesses." "It's pretty upsetting," Albaugh said of the fire. "We have been watching it (the building) for a number of years," he said of its potential to burn, noting that 15 years ago there was a fire in a small restaurant behind the ballroom. "The building was so old," he said. It was built in 1909 and a lot of wiring and plumbing was added over the years to complicate the structure even further. Investigators said there was a single electrical wire running from a garage, which supplied electricity for a telephone system in the maintenance building under Dreamland Ballroom. "It was only a 110 (volt line)," said Albaugh of that line's low power. The fire marshal said there were no indications of problems with that, after inspecting the electric meter in the garage area where the line originated. In the meantime, a yellow "fire scene" tape still surrounds the structure as a warning for spectators not to cross. However, the fire marshal released the structure to CLP officials on Monday, noting that part of his investigation is complete and he doesn't need to preserve the scene any more. George Deshner, manager of the park, said the board of Trustees of CLP now will decide the next step. The board was to meet Monday afternoon. He said many of the regular volunteers were at the park over the weekend, offering their help to clean up, but Deshner & Jerry Smith, a furloughed CLP maintenance employee, agreed that the removal work is going to require more expertise than volunteers have. CLP employees volunteered Monday afternoon to help remove some of the dangling pieces of the burned roof and verandah as a safety precaution, said Deshner. In the meantime, the next step for the board is coming up with money to remove the remainder of the debris. Deshner said early estimates are that process could run as high as $100,000. One reason for that is the need for heavy construction equipment to dismantle the steel. Deshner said the board will have to decide what =97 if anything =97 is able to be salvaged and sold. Also lost in the fire were personal tools of at least 3 furloughed maintenance employees, Smith, Don Schanz and David Hoogstad. Smith estimated his loss at between $6,000-$7,000 and said he expects Hoogstad's would be about the same. "Don's would probably be double that," said Smith, noting Schanz's collection was much larger than the others. George Glancy, another CLP maintenance employee, said he didn't lose any tools, as he took his home when he was furloughed. Smith said Schanz believes his losses will be covered by his homeowner's insurance and said his and others may be as well. The trustees had no fire insurance on any of the buildings. ------------- =A9 2005, The Meadville Tribune From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 05 07:11:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 31574 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2008 15:11:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2008 15:11:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n23d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.213) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2008 15:11:18 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n23.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 15:11:15 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 15:11:15 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:11:15 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.213 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: PR: 6F & Tyson Foods Announce 2008 Sponsorship Alliance X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=12TRaeq-M3Tokr8xzND-H4gPZWSsq0DpgVKuBQS3l7xrW44 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 17, 2008 Six Flags, Inc. PR Newswire http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=3D104&STORY=3D/www/story/= 01-17-2008/0004738478&EDATE=3D NEW YORK, NY -- Six Flags, Inc. (6F) has reached a supply and sponsorship agreement with Tyson Foods, Inc., the 2 companies announced today. Under the agreement, Tyson will become a 6F Corporate Alliance partner and Tyson chicken will become the Official Chicken of 6F. In addition, the 2 companies will collaborate on a number of marketing and advertising initiatives. The agreement makes Tyson the exclusive chicken supplier for all U.S. 6F parks and includes exclusive product placement on menu boards wherever Tyson products are sold, in-park signage, billboards and additional high- impact messaging via the 6F Media Networks. "Moms trust Tyson products and they trust 6F," said Lou Koskovolis, 6F Executive VP of Corporate Alliances. "Millions of families come to our parks every summer expecting industry leading attractions and friendly guest service; now when they dine in our restaurants, they'll immediately identify the Tyson brand for its own superior qualities. We're delighted that Tyson recognizes the 6F platform as a unique opportunity to connect with their key consumers." "We want to be where families live, work and play," said Randy Smith, Tyson Senior VP of Food Service. "6F entertains millions of visitors every year and now those visitors can experience the same Tyson chicken they cook at home for their families at a 6F theme park. We're delighted to be partnering with a brand that resonates so strongly with Moms and kids." ------------ Copyright =A9 1996-2008 PR Newswire Association LLC. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 05 07:15:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 86098 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2008 15:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2008 15:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.159) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2008 15:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 15:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 15:15:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.195] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 15:15:58 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:15:58 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.159 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Six Flags Fixes Record Date for PIERS Dividend X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=EGztPDuz3z-iYRLHhVHdQYN8M3KYpxBCwwheB4coWB8mx-Y X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 18, 2008 Six Flags, Inc. PR Newswire-FirstCall http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=3D104&STORY=3D/www/story/= 01-18-2008/0004739243&EDATE=3D NEW YORK, NY -- Six Flags, Inc. (6F) announced today it has fixed February 1, 2008 as the record date for payment of a dividend for the quarter ending February 15, 2008 to the holders of its Preferred Income Equity Redeemable Shares ("PIERS"), each such PIERS representing 1 one-hundredth of a share of the Company's 71/4 % Convertible Preferred Stock. Payment of the dividend, which will be paid 100 % in cash, will be made on February 15, 2008. The dividend will aggregate $.453125 per PIERS. About 6F: 6F is the world's largest regional theme park company with 21 parks across the U.S., Mexico and Canada. Since 1961, 6F has provided world-class thrilling entertainment for millions of families. 6F is a publicly-traded corporation (NYSE: SIX) headquartered in New York City. The information contained in this news release, other than historical information, consists of forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act and Section 21E of the Exchange Act. These statements may involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in such statements. Although the Company believes that the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors, including general economic conditions, consumer spending levels, adverse weather conditions, terrorist activities and other factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the Company's expectations. -------------- Copyright =A9 1996-2008 PR Newswire Association LLC. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 05 07:19:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61233 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2008 15:19:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2008 15:19:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n24a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.234) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2008 15:19:02 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n24.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 15:19:02 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 15:19:02 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 15:19:02 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:18:59 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.234 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Six Flags, Inc. Clarifies News Story X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=Zwozd4lCnvvOl_7gwcastrdUfNnBz-hY6wOniPfq0IkJdrU X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jan. 25, 2008 Six Flags, Inc. PR Newswire-FirstCall http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=3D104&STORY=3D/www/story/= 01-25-2008/0004743204&EDATE=3D NEW YORK, NY -- Six Flags, Inc. issued a statement today to clarify that recent news reports of a foreclosure related to land underlying the site of the Six Flags Mall in Arlington, TX is completely unrelated to Six Flags Inc. and its affiliates. Six Flags believes that the Mall acquired common law rights to use the name based on an oral arrangement dating back many years ago. ----------- Copyright =A9 1996-2008 PR Newswire Association LLC. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 05 07:27:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98109 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2008 15:27:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2008 15:27:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n29a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.249) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2008 15:27:47 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n29.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 15:27:47 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 15:27:47 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 15:27:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:27:45 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.249 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: PR: Six Flags Announces New In-Park Network X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=8JcHo9TZ4XWebUNdJWPh97I3H3AbLx21YuygECxON5aRAL4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb. 4, 2008 Six Flags, Inc. PR Newswire-FirstCall http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=3D104&STORY=3D/www/story/= 02-04-2008/0004748670&EDATE=3D NEW YORK, NY -- Six Flags, Inc. (6F) announced today the launch of its new comprehensive media solution, 6F Media Networks. Within this new platform, 6F will house all of its media touch points that go far and beyond that of traditional advertising. 6F Media Networks partner with local, regional and national advertising capabilities and includes: 6F Television, 6F Radio, 6F Print, 6F Outdoor, 6F Outdoor Spectacular, 6F Attraction Integration, 6F Experiential Marketing and 6F Online. 6F Television: Launching in March 2008, 6F Television will be the preeminent interactive outdoor television networks. As guests wait in queue lines, they will be presented with interactive entertainment and relevant content. Displayed on 45" plasma TVs, 6F Television allows guests to enjoy seamlessly integrated entertainment and promotions and will contain Bluetooth technology for instant downloads and exclusive music videos, text-n-win capabilities and ring tones. 6F Radio: 6F Radio is broadcasted throughout all 21 6F parks and will broadcast demographically and thematically-targeted content, commercials and announcements. 6F Print: Home to the Park Map & Guides and daily schedules, 6F Print will distribute over 9-million pieces between April and October. This entity is one of the most heavily distributed publications during this time period. 6F Outdoor: 6F Outdoor is the newest in outdoor advertising. This arm of 6F Media Networks will include rotational signage, Cool Media Interactive Signage with Bluetooth capabilities. These signs are dispersed throughout each of our parks and will have the capability to illuminate and mist to cool you off on those hot days. 6F Outdoor Spectacular: 6F Outdoor Spectacular allows advertisers to display marquee advertising throughout our parks. This includes parking, maingate, ride and venue entranceway signage as well as in-park promotional displays that give advertisers in-park real estate to display their products. 6F Attraction Integration: This arm of 6F Media Networks allows advertisers to display signage on roller coasters, queue lines and water rides. Partners are able to take advantage of our unique park attractions and integrate them into their key advertising strategies. 6F Experiential Marketing: This component provides advertisers the opportunity to engage in 1-on-1 interaction with guests. Examples of this form of marketing throughout its parks include the Wii Experience, a hand-on interactive gaming station for guest to enjoy their favorite Wii video games. 6F Online: SixFlags.com reaches more than 34 million unique users on an annual basis. As part of the 6F Media Networks, advertisers will now have access to exclusive online promotional offerings, sweepstakes, banner media and streaming video commercials. "6F Media Networks now opens the door for 6F-Inc. to provide our guests with an even bigger and better experience when they walk through our park gates," said Lou Koskovolis, Executive VP, Corporate Alliance and Sponsorship, "This interactive network also provides a stellar platform for advertisers to reach a captive audience and promote relevant products and gives us the opportunity to communicate, educate and entertain our guests." ---------- Copyright =A9 1996-2008 PR Newswire Association LLC. From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Tue Feb 05 14:22:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 99360 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2008 22:22:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2008 22:22:51 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.55) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2008 22:22:50 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 55447 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2008 22:22:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: uaIvsWkVM1m6j_leqrKHmILxvZ_V0K04a.bq1TBLFmP2eFGdyDQeJh4fiskvhXU6vAti88_VUKXlYpuwwbmyOI1QBHoj.CKtWdY3f8pNsZJ9Ge7Ggph3wgt2KF6TAA-- X-Received: from [72.70.253.194] by web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:22:49 PST Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:22:49 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <33958.52574.qm@web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.55 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: MISC: The plan is revealed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=mbP3GCf7_qTflvufIHl3BFhzYzFz_06RCQgLEeThOj89qNkkYOfH X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit State Showcase Funpark has a map! A real live brand new map! Sure it looks like it was drawn by a two-year-old, but it's a MAP! Jay --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From munkye1972@yahoo.com Tue Feb 05 22:23:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: munkye1972@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13682 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 06:23:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2008 06:23:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.102.103) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 06:23:13 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n20.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 06:23:13 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 06:23:13 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.77] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 06:23:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:23:11 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.102.103 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.162.44.4 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: PR: 6F & Tyson Foods Announce 2008 Sponsorship Alliance X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=124743306; y=5E2DO5-tASY8EzbFZv_1TmokGG_tFZ9C8hb3Ea-TZnD9sSV86g X-Yahoo-Profile: munkye1972 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > > Jan. 17, 2008 > Six Flags, Inc. > PR Newswire > http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl? ACCT=3D104&STORY=3D/www/story/01-17-2008/0004738478&EDATE=3D >=20 >=20 > NEW YORK, NY -- Six Flags, Inc. (6F) has reached a supply and > sponsorship agreement with Tyson Foods, Inc., the 2 companies > announced today. Maybe there will finally be some decent chicken in the cafeteria.=20 Chris From munkye1972@yahoo.com Tue Feb 05 22:29:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: munkye1972@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30512 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 06:29:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2008 06:29:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n19b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.131) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 06:29:10 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n19.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 06:29:08 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 06:29:08 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 06:29:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:29:07 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.131 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.162.44.4 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: PR: Six Flags Announces New In-Park Network X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=124743306; y=eL3zPNjwpKjZX3PXPAy9ZfdeEHQAqanA-4Ic9V15wKpKNOV0mA X-Yahoo-Profile: munkye1972 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > > Feb. 4, 2008 > Six Flags, Inc. > PR Newswire-FirstCall > http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl? ACCT=3D104&STORY=3D/www/story/02-04-2008/0004748670&EDATE=3D >=20 >=20 > NEW YORK, NY -- Six Flags, Inc. (6F) announced today the launch of=20 its > new comprehensive media solution, 6F Media Networks. Within this new > platform, 6F will house all of its media touch points that go far=20 and > beyond that of traditional advertising. 6F Media Networks partner=20 with > local, regional and national advertising capabilities and includes:=20 6F > Television, 6F Radio, 6F Print, 6F Outdoor, 6F Outdoor Spectacular,=20 6F > Attraction Integration, 6F Experiential Marketing and 6F Online. >=20 Most of this stuff was supposed to happen last year. Don't know why=20 it got delayed.=20 Anyone heard that the company has supposedly restructured, making=20 each individual park a Limited Liability Corporation (LLC)?=20 Chris From lance@screamscape.com Wed Feb 06 05:50:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43410 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 13:50:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2008 13:50:02 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta18.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 13:50:02 -0000 X-Received: from dm37.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta18.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F01F40D8A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 05:20:52 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm37 X-Received: by dm37.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id dm37.47a751b8.b7aba for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 05:20:51 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHqbQzpui+GQIAAAAB,fef2192d78f67d8bdc55eda6e300e7a1 Message-ID: <166D5C8D67E04659882ABC0E37418FEB@ScreamscapeHP> To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:21:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: PR: Six Flags Announces New In-Park Network X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=OzRls5opFByaQbbkI09bujNW7B3lQzFyylBF6ZjHZd5Lbi4_B7jwHvjHfA X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:29 AM Subject: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: PR: Six Flags Announces New In-Park Network Anyone heard that the company has supposedly restructured, making each individual park a Limited Liability Corporation (LLC)? ___ I don't think they just did this, often park in chains are usually run as their own sub companies anyway, they just recieve their big capital and budgets from the head-office. However there was something in the news that pretty much reflected that from now on Six Flags wanted each park to be responsible for carrying their own weight, meeting their budgets, making cuts when needed if business was soft in their area. Before this I guess Six Flags had been handling the parks like baseball teams. If Kentucky Kingdom is losing money and the rest of the parks are coming out positive, the profits from the rest would have to go to bailing Kentucky Kingdom out. As I understand it, this wont happen anymore. Sink or Swim time. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Feb 06 08:40:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 69289 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 16:40:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2008 16:40:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n10b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.104) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 16:40:38 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n10.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 16:40:38 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 16:40:38 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 16:40:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:40:38 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <33958.52574.qm@web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.104 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: MISC: The plan is revealed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=9YifGhyEyjOkElxAiGtpBsSdl-GJ8FjdWNNjLdR1Nkl98bY X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jay, I need more info. What is the "State Showcase Funpark"? -Alan --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, Jay Ducharme wrote: > > State Showcase Funpark has a map! A real live brand new map! Sure it looks like it was drawn by a two-year-old, but it's a MAP! >=20 > >=20 > Jay From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Feb 06 08:59:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17412 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 16:59:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2008 16:59:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n19.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.216) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 16:59:27 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n19.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 16:59:27 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 16:59:27 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2008 16:59:27 -0000 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:59:27 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.216 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: PR: Disney Invites Families to Celebrate the 'Year of the Mouse' X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=PNl2XuKLeLnLlkIxzeFf-NEDUWOc2WL_m0x2VTFh6m_a17w X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb. 6, 2008 PRNewswire http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=3D104&STORY=3D/www/story/= 02-06-2008/0004750639&EDATE=3D ANAHEIM, CA -- It's a celebration that has Mickey Mouse's name written all over it ... well, half of his name, anyway. The most famous Mouse of all is inviting families to celebrate the Lunar New Year and Year of the Mouse at Disneyland (DL) Resort, the place "Where Dreams Come True." From February 5 to February 29 at DL Park, Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse will mark the Year of the Mouse by appearing in festive Asian attire to greet guests and pose for photos near Town Square on Main Street, U.S.A. Families can also celebrate with Mickey Mouse in Chinatown, Los Angeles, as Mickey serves as the Grand Marshal of the 109th Annual Golden Dragon Parade and Festival February 9. A limited number of magnetic photo frames and traditional red envelopes including 2fer ticket offer information will be given to festival-goers. The "2fer" tickets, valid through April 24, 2008, will make it easier than ever for Southern Californians to visit DL Resort and enjoy its exciting shows and attractions during the Year of the Mouse. This "2 parks for the price of 1" opportunity enables residents of Southern California (ZIP codes 90000-93599) and Northern Baja California (ZIP codes 21000-22999) to purchase up to 8 "2fer" tickets. For the price of a regular 1-day park ticket, "2fer" tickets provide admission to the 2 theme parks, DL and Disney's California Adventure (DCA), on 2 different days. "2fer" tickets are on sale at DL Resort Hotels, Vons Pavilions stores and Disneyland.com/SC2fer. Proof of residency is required for admission. Admission is valid for 1 day at DL Park and another day at DCA, but not for both parks on the same day. Tickets are valid 30 days from first use. First use must occur between 1/07/08 and 4/24/08. Each day of use constitutes 1 full day of use. Guests may purchase up to 8 tickets per person per day with valid ID. Tickets may not be sold or transferred for commercial use. This offer is subject to restrictions or change without notice. The Resort features 2 theme parks -- DL (the original Disney theme park) and DCA -- plus the Downtown Disney District comprised of unique dining, entertainment and shopping experiences. The Resort's 3 guest-welcoming hotels are the luxurious 745-room Disney's Grand Californian Hotel & Spa, the magical 988-room DL Hotel and the "day-at-the-beach" fun of the 489-room Disney's Paradise Pier Hotel. For more information about DL Resort, guests may visit http://www.disneyland.com, call (866) 60-DISNEY or visit local travel agents. ------------- Copyright =A9 1996-2008 PR Newswire Association LLC. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Feb 07 07:26:43 2008 X-Deleted-Message: yes X-Deletion-Info: i=29869;u=;t=1202398016;m=1895995703;s=625122733; From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Feb 07 07:38:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94296 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 15:38:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2008 15:38:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n49d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.175) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 15:38:54 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n49.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 15:38:53 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 15:38:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.73] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 15:38:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:38:52 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.175 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: MISC: Magnetix iCoaster - Magnetic Roller Coaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=8FzVGfdhVzteqHeByoRbHBvVg-2pQpfnpi29vRbZ4-rd2x0 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 4th, 2008 Product Reviews http://www.product-reviews.net/2008/02/04/magnetix-icoaster-magnetic-roller= -coaster/ by Kerry MONTREAL, QUEBEC, CA -- The Magnetix iCoaster takes construction toys to the next level by using the power of magnetism. It allows you to construct a magnetic roller coaster complete with drops, loops and jumps. You can construct the iCoaster in up to 10 different ways. Because it uses magnetism, the iCoaster is also capable of some jaw-dropping stunts. The iCoaster also comes with a Sound FX and Music Studio, which kids can use to put a soundtrack to their coaster. With this set you can also plug an MP3 player into the music studio and choose the perfect song for the coaster. So if you or your kids love building things then this is a must have that will be loved by all the family. ------------ =A9 2004 - 2008 Dansway Communications LTD From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Feb 07 07:45:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 60941 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 15:45:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2008 15:45:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n13c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.114) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 15:45:35 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n13.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 15:45:35 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 15:45:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.201] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 15:45:35 -0000 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:45:34 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.114 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Magic Mountain unveils Thomas Town plans X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=rU3qSh80DH6ywFeq0tdVnPPSC7zUVHf_RC1yP9Yugjlmjr4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 5, 2008 Los Angeles Times http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/?p=3D1292 By Brady MacDonald VALENCIA, CA -- Site plans for the Thomas Town kiddie land at Six Flags Magic Mountain (6FMM) show a corkscrew-path train track, children's roller coaster and water play area. Train riders queue through Knapford Station and take a journey aboard the anthropomorphic Thomas the Tank Engine and passenger cars Annie and Clarabelle. The train circles Tidmouth Shed, which houses several of Thomas' engine friends. Riders exit via a retail store featuring souvenirs from the British children's television series. Thomas Town site plansThe Valencia, CA, amusement park will re-theme the Goliath Jr. mini-roller coaster as Percy the Small Engine to better fit into the new land, scheduled to open summer 2008. A Cranky the Crane water play area will feature a pop-jet fountain and an overhead sprinkler. Officials unveiled the Thomas Town plans during a recent Theme Park Review tour of the park. 6FMM put on hold previously announced plans for Harold the Helicopter and Bertie the Bus rides in Thomas Town, in part because the park's existing Bugs Bunny World kiddie land already has a Yosemite Sam's Flight School plane ride and a Daffy's Adventure Tours bus ride. The locations of the shelved rides will be reserved for future Thomas Town expansion. -------------- Copyright 2007 Los Angeles Times From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Feb 07 07:53:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 6692 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 15:53:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2008 15:53:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n2c.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.233) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 15:53:42 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n2.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 15:53:41 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 15:53:41 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.91] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 15:53:41 -0000 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:53:40 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.233 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Get Taken for a Ride X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=B6eUX1cC4e2V7s6T5jcM4duRjrNdqvwgKqzqzZ3JGsRHtKM X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 06 February 2008 Bathurst News http://bathurst.yourguide.com.au/news/local/general/get-taken-for-a-ride/11= 77288.html By Brian Wood BATHURST, NEW SOUTH WALES, AU -- Parents, breathe a sigh of relief. The fun of the fair in sideshow alley at this year's Bathurst Royal Show from February 29-March 2 will be more affordable than ever. For the first time amusements at the annual community event will be provided by an organisation other than the Showmen's Guild of Australasia. And in another first, the show will feature 2 rollercoasters, with the first now be erected at the showground. All this follows the decision by the local show society to put out to tender the right to provide attractions on the showground. It resulted in 3 organisations putting in bids to run the fairground with the nod going to the Newcastle-based OFA Showstar. Bathurst AH and P Association executive secretary John Ovenstone said yesterday the fact there are now more amusement providers other than the traditional Showmen's Guild gave them the chance to test the market. "We went with the Newcastle company which has a long tradition in the industry," he said. "Their package allows patrons to purchase a session ticket which allows unlimited rides during that time frame. "There's the 10am-5pm or 4pm-11pm option on Friday & Saturday or the 10am-5pm Sunday session. Pre-purchase a session ticket before the show for $35 or $40 at the show. "It makes the show more affordable than ever before. It's great value and means people get a lot more fun for their buck. We expect it to result in a huge turnout in sideshow alley this year." Ovenstone said the terms of the deal means OFA Showstar has to provide as many rides as in the past. "Bathurst will still see the latest and greatest amusements at its show," he said. "The features will be 2 different roller coasters. "They will set the benchmark and will be set up in an area we're calling Adrenalzone behind the main grandstand. You won't be able to miss them. "In fact the Splash Canyon coaster has already arrived in town so it can be set up and ready in time as well as providing plenty of hype in the lead up to the show." Ovenstone said another plus to emerge from the deal is the fact there will be no showmen accommodated on the showground. "It will free up a lot of space. It means we've been able to move about 60 caravans out of the venue," he said. "While it's been a big decision to make these changes by going away from our previous provider, we think it will be a winner. "No matter what happens, we will be going out to tender again next year to ensure we can get the best deal for local show goers." According to Britt Osborne from OFA Showstar, the Splash Canyon roller coaster arrived on 6 semi-trailers while the Wild Mouse roller coaster would be leaving Adelaide for Bathurst later in the week on 4 semis. "We do about 20 shows in NSW and Queensland and every one has asked us to come back," she said. "Bathurst is a huge coup for us. Coming here will enhance our reputation a great deal." ------------ Copyright =A9 2008. Fairfax Digital From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Feb 07 08:13:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 47872 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 16:13:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2008 16:13:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n15b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.119) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 16:13:01 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n15.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 16:12:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 16:12:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 16:12:58 -0000 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:12:57 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.119 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Florida State Fair runs Feb. 7-18 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=gt4bouHlTFgYKDCtvZvMBTXYtYD-uJHpOiJPrYCHtAXGe5g X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb. 6, 2008 Tampa Bay Newspapers http://www.tbnweekly.com/editorial/local_entertainment/festivals/content_ar= ticles/020608_lefest-01.txt By Suzette Porter TAMPA, FL -=96 Bright lights, big tents, midway rides, animals, music, food and more highlight the 2008 Florida State Fair, Feb. 7-18, at the Fairgrounds in Tampa. Fair gate admission is $10 for adults, $5 for children ages 6-11; and free for children 5 and younger. No re-entry is permitted without an admission ticket. Gates open daily at 9 a.m. and parking is free. The Florida State Fairgrounds is located just 7 miles east of downtown Tampa, with easy access via I-75, I-4, US-301, Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd, and Orient Rd. For more information, call toll-free 800-345-FAIR or 813-621-7821, visit www.floridastatefair.com or myspace.com/floridastatefair. Highlights This year, organizers are bringing a piece of Vegas to the Sunshine State, complete with impersonators, showgirls and choreographed musical numbers. The Sweetbay Entertainment Hall will be transformed into a Las Vegas showroom, featuring GLITZ!, presented by Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino, from Feb. 7-13. The family-friendly musical was custom-produced by Four Star Entertainment Inc (4SE). Each show is 45 minutes and will be fast-paced with upbeat singing and dancing. "Many of the impersonators in this show have performed at some of the biggest casinos in the country and in some of the biggest shows including the world-renowned Legends in Concert," said Bill Haggett, owner and CEO of 4SE. "I have been producing shows like this for over 20 years and these guys are some of the most talented I have ever worked with." The revue is included in the price of a Fair admission ticket. Show times are: - Thursday., Feb. 7, at 1 p.m. & 3 p.m. - Friday, Feb. 8 and Saturday, Feb. 9, at 3, 5 & 7 p.m. - Sunday, Feb. 10-Wednesday, Feb. 13, at 1, 3, & 5 p.m. Music Fairgoers will have plenty of musical entertainment from which to choose. 12 bands playing everything from the blues to reggae to classic rock will be playing at the outdoor domes =96 all part of the price of fair admission. The schedule is as follows. Friday, Feb. 8 Git R Dunz will be playing southern rock, pop, and blues in the Bud Light Latin Dome from 5-9p.m. For more information, visit www.thegitrdunz.com. Amberly Drive will be performing in the Budweiser Great American Lager Dome from 7-11p.m. For more information, visit www.myspace.com/amberlydrive. Saturday, Feb. 9 The Bud Light Latin Dome premiers the day's musical talent with the ear-catching sounds of Orlando's Dueling Pianos. The pianists will play 4 show times between noon and 4p.m. For more information, visit www.theduelingpianos.com. Burn also performs at the Bud Light Latin Dome from 6-10p.m. For more information, visit www.burnband.com. Traveling North concludes Saturday's music with a performance from 7-11p.m. in the Budweiser Great American Lager Dome. For more information, visit thetriplethreat.com. Sunday, Feb. 10 The Dueling Pianos will play between 1 & 5p.m. in Bud Light Latin Dome. Made of Hemp takes the stage at the Budweiser Great American Lager Dome from 3 to 7p.m. For more information, visit www.kulchashok.com. Friday, Feb. 15 The band, 60s Groove, will be playing some of the biggest hits in music history from 5-9p.m. in the Bud Light Latin Dome. For more information, visit www.60sgroove.com. Offshore Riot plays from 7-11p.m. in the Budweiser Great American Lager Dome. For more information on this band, visit www.offshoreriot.com. Saturday, Feb. 16 The Sauce Boss starts off the day in the Bud Light Latin Dome with 2 musical performances catered around cooking gumbo live on stage. This Tallahassee bluesman started a non-profit organization called PLANET GUMBO (planetgumbo.org) and donates a portion of profits (along with free gumbo) to Homeless Shelters all over the U.S. Jimmy Buffett even wrote a song about the talented musician in "I Will Play for Gumbo." or more information, visit www.sauceboss.com. Cope performs in the Bud Light Latin Dome from 6-10p.m. For more information, visit www.copemusic.net. Dos Locos plays from 6-10p.m. in the Budweiser Great American Lager Dome. For more information, visit www.doslocosband.com. Sunday, Feb. 17 The Sauce Boss will be serving a sampling of gumbo one last time in the Bud Light Latin Dome. Kool Vibes plays from 3-7p.m. in the Budweiser Great American Lager Dome. Band members are from the beautiful island of St. Lucia and have been performing together since 1999 and play a variety of steel drums music from smooth reggae to lively soca. Dancing to Be a Star The first-ever Swing and Salsa Dance Showdown, Dancing to be a Star, is just one of the highlights of festivities for the Florida State Fair's inaugural year of the new La Plaza Hispanic Village area. The "Swing" preliminary rounds are scheduled on Thursday, Feb. 7 at 8p.m. and the "Salsa" preliminary rounds are Sunday, Feb. 10, at 6p.m. Both events take place in the Bud Light Latin Dome at La Plaza Hispanic Village. Couples will compete in front of an audience with judges selecting the top contestants each night to come back on Sunday, Feb. 17 for the finals. A live audience will choose the winning couple of the Swing and Salsa Dance Showdown on Sunday, Feb. 17, at 5p.m. inside the Special Events Center building. For more information on the dance competition, call Luis Lopez at 813-417-4046 or the Al Frederick to 813-758-9149. Circus Hollywood For the 2nd year, Bradenton-based Circus Hollywood hailed as "America's most dazzling circus where dreams are made" returns to the fair with a world-class team of acrobats, daredevils, circus performers, aerialists and clowns guaranteed to entertain and thrill audiences of all ages. Circus Hollywood will perform 3 shows Monday-Thursday at 1:30, 3:30, & 5:30p.m. On Friday through Sunday; Circus Hollywood will have 4 shows at 1:30, 3:30, 5:30, & 7:30p.m. Look for the giant Circus Hollywood tent near gate 3 in between the Livestock Area and the Charles M. Davis Special Events Center. Roller coaster naming 5 roller coasters will provide plenty of thrills for fairgoers this year. 2 of the 5 are new, and one has not yet been named. The "You Name It" roller coaster will be the largest, portable non-looping roller coaster ever to debut at a state fair. Wade Shows Inc. purchased it from Morey's Pier, N.J. where it was previously located as a permanent ride. The ride will be located in the northeast corner of the Fair's Midway across from the Ford Amphitheatre. Ride enthusiasts are encouraged to enjoy the ride and then drop off their name entry at one of 6 guest relations booths located across the Fairgrounds. Visitors can enter as many names as they like but only one winning name-entry will be picked. Contest rules and regulations can be found online, posted at the Fair's guest relations booths and at the "You Name It" roller coaster. The contest begins on Thursday, Feb. 7, at 9a.m. and ends on Wednesday, Feb 13, at closing time. The winning entry selected will be contacted by Saturday, Feb. 16, to claim their prize. The winning contestant will receive a $500 cash prize and the ride's new name will be displayed on Sun., Feb. 17 at the roller coaster. History and tradition The 1st state fair was in 1904. It has always been in Tampa and always in February. As many fairs back in the day, agricultural exhibits were the highlight. Today's fair still features agricultural exhibits. Plus it gives a glimpse of what life was like in the past. A wide variety of early craft and trade demonstrators at Cracker Country provide authentic glimpses of Florida in the 1890s. This year, visitors will find several new craft and trade demonstrations plus a new attraction, the Hands-On Farm, where they can try their hand at how things were done more than 100 years ago. Enjoy bluegrass music by the Sweeney Family Band, the Pleasant Family Old Time String Band and Southern Star Bluegrass on both weekends. Check out some of the newest demonstrations including split rail fencing and log cabin building, beekeeping, swamp cabbage cooking, saddle making and more. Other attractions include demonstrations of flour making at an old-fashioned gristmill; sugar cane extraction; sewing on an antique treadle sewing machine; spinning and weaving; woodcarving; making baskets from pine needles; chair caning, decoy carving and more. Cracker Country opens daily at 9a.m. and closes at 6p.m. on Monday-Thursday, and closes at 7p.m. on Friday-Sunday. For more information, please contact Rip Stalvey, museum director, at 813-627-4225 or visit /www.crackercountry.org/. Agricultural events and livestock shows A variety of agricultural events and livestock-related activities are scheduled in and around the Charlie Lykes Arena, the Ag Hall of Fame building and the Ag Venture building. Ag Hall of Fame is open from 9a.m.-9p.m. and gives visitors a glimpse of the lives and achievements of former Ag Hall of Fame inductees with special video presentations about their contributions to Florida agriculture. Ag Venture is open from 9a.m.-6p.m. Activities include making butter, making a seed necklace, play the "Beefo" bingo game, taste oranges and learn about hydroponics. Cooking Demonstrations featuring Florida commodities are scheduled daily at 10a.m., Noon, and 2p.m. in the Ag Hall of Fame building. Various chefs will highlight a different commodity each day =96 including Florida citrus, strawberries, honey, poultry and beef =96 with cooking demonstrations and recipes. Hay Bale Decorating Contest takes place daily from 9a.m.-9p.m. Youth from 4-H and FFA transform simple bales of hay into inspired creations in this State Fair competition. Insect Safari (Daily 9a.m.-9p.m.) =96 Visitors will learn about the metamorphosis of insects with interesting names like Ant Lion and Zebra Swallowtail at the Insect Safari open daily from 9a.m.-9p.m. at the Ag Hall of Fame building located on the south side of the fairgrounds. Other activities include cow milking, photo design contest, purebred dog exhibition, Salute to Ag Tent, livestock judging and more. --------------- Copyright =A9 Tampa Bay Newspapers From dougjnelson@gmail.com Thu Feb 07 10:46:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: dougjnelson@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 26267 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 18:46:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2008 18:46:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n35b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.149) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 18:46:54 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n35.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 18:46:54 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 18:46:54 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2008 18:46:54 -0000 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:46:52 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.149 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 71.98.250.92 From: "Doug Nelson" Subject: Re: NEWS: Florida State Fair runs Feb. 7-18 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=261787472; y=v38-wHrwn1rvUV3Kj3_ozpwuJVw-98w5XSElxY5OSNNODtG9ewRWKso0zA X-Yahoo-Profile: fluffythegod3000 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > The "You Name It" roller coaster will be the largest, portable > non-looping roller coaster ever to debut at a state fair. Wade Shows > Inc. purchased it from Morey's Pier, N.J. where it was previously > located as a permanent ride. hmm, well a 158 foot tall coaster put together by carnies. i can think=20 of a few names for it, none of which i think are appropriate to publish=20 here. :) that being said, i know i will HAVE to ride it when i see it. how could=20 i not? life is short...and if i ride it, mine will probably be=20 shortened considerably.=20 From lance@screamscape.com Thu Feb 07 12:41:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17567 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 20:41:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2008 20:41:55 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta14.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 20:41:55 -0000 X-Received: from dm37.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta14.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBF4428A5 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:41:54 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm37 X-Received: by dm37.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id dm37.47a751b8.19c9c2 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:41:53 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHq20ReXL89AIAAAAB,41e1627590c90e777868192d49678aa9 Message-ID: <92D2AC8C9360498C841810849562A1E3@ScreamscapeHP> To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:41:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Florida State Fair runs Feb. 7-18 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=fv5KB8b7_mV8R0VuW18eAwdMMPyZavcygo9e6EZPwezuOsMUVSCbjeMiiQ X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm guessing that this is the former RC-48, a Pinfari non-looping steel coaster. http://www.rcdb.com/ig689.htm Of course Pinfari's can often be found on the road and this doesn't really look any bigger than the various Pinfari Looping Stars I've seen at other fairs. One used to come on a regular basis to the Del Mar Fair (now San Diego Fair) for years... ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Nelson To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:46 PM Subject: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Florida State Fair runs Feb. 7-18 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > The "You Name It" roller coaster will be the largest, portable > non-looping roller coaster ever to debut at a state fair. Wade Shows > Inc. purchased it from Morey's Pier, N.J. where it was previously > located as a permanent ride. hmm, well a 158 foot tall coaster put together by carnies. i can think of a few names for it, none of which i think are appropriate to publish here. :) that being said, i know i will HAVE to ride it when i see it. how could i not? life is short...and if i ride it, mine will probably be shortened considerably. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Thu Feb 07 15:51:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 47960 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 23:51:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Feb 2008 23:51:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53107.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.57) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 23:51:15 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 35492 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2008 23:51:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: LWZEOmwVM1lvaX6fknmp0H8TSomAJqiFMU4r0IVHIcMDBWGl5Q5z44zp2LWqmMCE7ceL0moVJZsl5tbhJwIzOqgcB2BRO4StNSMMnkeajTcLRxbCfpf3jszsb_AA5w-- X-Received: from [72.70.255.124] by web53107.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:51:12 PST Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:51:12 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1202326383.2143.49466.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <401677.34308.qm@web53107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.57 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: MISC: The plan is revealed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=XSO8V_fo9GLsV6HoxYWhiSXA-t18z5HXWy3nNLimjA7a3fg3jeWT X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I need more info. What is the "State Showcase Funpark"? < Here's a sampling of the joy that awaits you: "Members Camp Childcare will have a series of learning modules that will makes learning fun for the child."Members one of those learning modules comprise of using exercise movements to music to teach the children what each letter in the alphabet will look like. The children having them either standing up, lying down, or on the knees with the addition of arm movement by the children like the desired letter. Members next with the learning in this manner then have the children imitate those movements to a chalk board. Music selection for this learning module is Y.M.C.A. by the Village People. "Members another learning module will be a five step process to say the alphabet whiles doing exercises at the same time. One exercise will be the stretching of neck and shoulders.Another exercise will be the stretching of their arms in a circular, up, then down motion.Next exercise is a punching routine by going slow at first then proceed to go faster.Fourth exercise with this combination of moves kick, skip on toe jab on each leg. Final exercise is an instep march on each leg. Members the music of choice in this exercise module is the theme of Rocky. Members children can learn more while at the same time being more healthy doing exercises than sit at ones desk." Ah, there is so much more to explore at State Showcase Funpark. Check out the Forum: Jay --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. 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--YCalReminder=OjkEEesZpjmVNYKw834smKLpZxHj7OI1202453410-1-- From gburnash@earthlink.net Fri Feb 08 07:18:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: gburnash@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 86961 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2008 15:18:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2008 15:18:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (209.86.89.69) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2008 15:18:44 -0000 X-Received: from pool-71-98-225-18.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.98.225.18] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JNUzz-0001Un-1T for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:18:44 -0500 Message-ID: <47AC722A.3070709@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:15:54 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95f3a1acbbcf5638846e115e3e8cf45574bf435c0eb9d4784fa47ccf6d9520e42a140b14647b8d8668d6052272dc3810350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.89.69 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: george burnash Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: NEWS: Florida State Fair runs Feb. 7-18 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=115345197; y=PfHkv-pexANbxPDQRTTuhG9y7SHU0zHoxQfCaa0B9F4EEPA X-Yahoo-Profile: gburnash Doug Nelson wrote: located as a permanent ride. > > hmm, well a 158 foot tall coaster put together by carnies. i can think > of a few names for it, none of which i think are appropriate to publish > here. :) > I've said it before, and I'll say it again- the vast majority of carnival rides are safer than what's at a permanent amusement park. You don't see the permanent rides getting anywhere near the inspections, safety checks, and careful examinations that a traveling ride does (they're inspected piece by piece when they come down, again when they're put back up again, and have to pass another safety inspection at each location by a state inspector (in many states, including FL) before being allowed to operate. Sure there are a couple of losers out there that give the industry a bad name, but in the vast majority of cases you're perfectly safe on those rides. > that being said, i know i will HAVE to ride it when i see it. how could > i not? life is short...and if i ride it, mine will probably be > shortened considerably. So now I just have to find the money and time to get over there. Wish I had known earlier as today probably would have been the day. Might have to go on the mess that'll be President's day instead. keep on ridin' George From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Feb 08 08:35:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 2259 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2008 16:35:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2008 16:35:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n15a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.118) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2008 16:35:04 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n15.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2008 16:35:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2008 16:35:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2008 16:35:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:35:01 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <401677.34308.qm@web53107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.118 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: MISC: The plan is revealed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=UmcvBheTxwQxxaVIWQ5Jnsp_VPkkCoK_Ky0yWcWXibYfy-s X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Jay, I feel like I'm seriously missing something. What I'm trying to say is, "What/Where is it?". I've followed the link, but I can't make heads or tails of what it is, or what it's trying to be, or... I'm confused. -Alan (Sorry if I'm just being dense) --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, Jay Ducharme wrote: > > > I need more info. What is the "State Showcase Funpark"? < >=20 > Here's a sampling of the joy that awaits you: >=20 > "Members Camp Childcare will have a series of learning modules that will makes learning fun for the child."Members one of those learning modules comprise of using exercise movements to music to teach the children what each letter in the alphabet will look like. The children having them either standing up, lying down, or on the knees with the addition of arm movement by the children like the desired letter. Members next with the learning in this manner then have the children imitate those movements to a chalk board. Music selection for this learning module is Y.M.C.A. by the Village People. > "Members another learning module will be a five step process to say the alphabet whiles doing exercises at the same time. One exercise will be the stretching of neck and shoulders.Another exercise will be the stretching of their arms in a circular, up, then down motion.Next exercise is a punching routine by going slow at first then proceed to go faster.Fourth exercise with this combination of moves kick, skip on toe jab on each leg. Final exercise is an instep march on each leg. Members the music of choice in this exercise module is the theme of Rocky. Members children can learn more while at the same time being more healthy doing exercises than sit at ones desk." > Ah, there is so much more to explore at State Showcase Funpark.=20 Check out the Forum: >=20 > >=20 > Jay From pkflea2002@yahoo.com Fri Feb 08 08:54:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: pkflea2002@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 7754 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2008 16:54:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2008 16:54:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (66.163.178.167) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2008 16:54:47 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 36602 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2008 16:54:47 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ewFbKRsVM1k70p6vSe0fm2UwCHgSnGV5BFhGKWqpp6SVAniCpbEeDs0lNBCiGPbVcJx61qMyaL97a9oRRBWfSRKXUZ.HSFiKfRdg90lqfGiN7whNRSI- X-Received: from [65.97.171.34] by web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:54:47 PST Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:54:47 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1202453417.10.82735.m52@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <465949.36438.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 66.163.178.167 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: felicia walker Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Anniversary Reminder X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=163688239; y=ch_ZDefVHqxWoS2bWb9Q7pb7JKMnHIMSVIw-OtNuYu-z3Wr3CQ X-Yahoo-Profile: pkflea2002 I was apart of the opening team for Disney's California Adventure and the Disney Grand Californian Hotel. It was such a blast. We had the Beach Boy's and John Stamos and a slew of other celebs there to join in the celebration. I had the pleasure of riding California Screamin before it opened to the public such great memories. --- RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Reminder from: RollerCoasterTalk Yahoo! Group > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RollerCoasterTalk/cal > > Disney's California Adventure opened > Friday February 8, 2008 > All Day > (This event repeats every year.) > Location: Anaheim, CA > > Notes: > On this date in 2001 Disney's California Adventure > park opened. > > > All Rights Reserved > Copyright © 2008 > Yahoo! Inc. > http://www.yahoo.com > > Privacy Policy: > http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us > > Terms of Service: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From gburnash@earthlink.net Fri Feb 08 09:39:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: gburnash@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 15903 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2008 17:39:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2008 17:39:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (209.86.89.67) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2008 17:39:54 -0000 X-Received: from pool-71-98-225-18.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.98.225.18] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JNXCa-0006OQ-La for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:39:53 -0500 Message-ID: <47AC9341.8070900@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:37:05 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95f3a1acbbcf5638846e115e3e8cf45574bf435c0eb9d4784fa47ccf6d9520e401cdb900ca746f4ace6d9ac564529b0f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.89.67 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: george burnash Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: MISC: The plan is revealed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=115345197; y=m8v0cSRUvBLzlGS0QV2ApCAGXqq9i8A8PNfEa7lftex-R-0 X-Yahoo-Profile: gburnash Alan wrote: > > > Jay, > I feel like I'm seriously missing something. > What I'm trying to say is, "What/Where is it?". > > I've followed the link, but I can't make heads or tails of what it is, > or what it's trying to be, or... > > I'm confused. > -Alan (Sorry if I'm just being dense) It's another one of those guys out there that is a fan of parks so has decided that he's building his own park somewhere. Does he have any land? no. Money? no. Resources or contacts? no. Clue about reality? Well, you can see his writings, and the quality of his map. But he's posted it on various sites and message boards out there and created his forums dedicated to his reality. Some see it as a good laugh, some shake their heads at it, some admire the kid for dreaming big. And I'll let you fill in the rest as you want. keep on ridin' George From adamnvillani@yahoo.com Fri Feb 08 13:12:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: adamnvillani@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 70105 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2008 21:12:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Feb 2008 21:12:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n39d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.145) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2008 21:12:30 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2008 21:12:30 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2008 21:12:27 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2008 21:11:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:11:43 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <33958.52574.qm@web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.145 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 161.149.63.100 From: "adamnvillani" Subject: Re: MISC: The plan is revealed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=145821173; y=33o-Zt-VAkf7OXJSc90g4Swb-mw6SCy1CWyV36KpA0hN9Timi9Eg X-Yahoo-Profile: adamnvillani I'm reminded of this page on children's artwork: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=3Dirule It's a joke! It's a joke! Adam http://blogbilongadam.blogspot.com From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Fri Feb 08 16:39:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 20584 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2008 00:38:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2008 00:38:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.58) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 00:38:57 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 55236 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2008 00:38:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: SN6FCOsVM1kgmCZHxNsSMAMbsTzqzPuB219oFR0YbuJnL3JF058thaXmUdtDKgTVhfv4p6bn9M6SZD7C28T8pY7rKQ-- X-Received: from [72.70.255.124] by web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:38:56 PST Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:38:56 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1202491815.2246.63065.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <971442.54456.qm@web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.58 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: NEWS: Florida State Fair runs Feb. 7-18 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=c-385Z58ORbi_H6LRfS468VJsY2FrJpoLfpHFgZZfRiFHT0SO9Jp X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm guessing that this is the former RC-48, a Pinfari non-looping steel coaster. < Wow. That has one of the most interesting profiles I've ever seen, sort of like a spider web blown by the wind. I wonder what the ride experience is like. There sure are a lot of fan turns. Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Fri Feb 08 16:49:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65750 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2008 00:49:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2008 00:49:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.62) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 00:49:01 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 9298 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2008 00:48:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: jH7L2oEVM1mIY9ZY0SVlCFE7SGOe9AKMbZxPMELD5oELgZ54dg3N9jBLwGZ64757dvqP5yEtoMFdBU.YVyTmo0ZvJo3yhH2l0vEPVbrgmKYgwRK0HkIcICIyELXQJw-- X-Received: from [72.70.255.124] by web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:48:57 PST Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:48:57 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1202491815.2246.63065.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <694671.5094.qm@web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.62 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: MISC: The plan is revealed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=MrD__Z30XHcripFM--naFy3qbcntTPQwI_3WiFoenMP0440xAcp6 X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I feel like I'm seriously missing something. What I'm trying to say is, "What/Where is it?". < Don't feel bad, Alan. You aren't really missing anything. I think Absolutely Reliable had the best quote about State Showcase Funpark: "In a battle of idiots, everyone wins." The park doesn't exist. It's the brainchild of someone going by the name of jl57. I guess his real name is Jack. But I don't know Jack. He created the park in his imagination (drawing heavily on already existing parks) and posted his thoughts on that Delphi forum. His dream is to build it not too far from Cedar Point. He claimed at one point that it would be successful because there are over 17,000 hotels in the state of Ohio. What endeared the site to me was jl57's limited grasp of the english language. He struggled mightily to form a coherent sentence. Sadly, it looks like he's revised a good deal of the site recently and cleaned up a lot of his idiosyncrasies that made him so interesting. Over the past few months, he's had a battle of words with several detractors on the forum. I actually felt sorry for him. It's not a bad thing to have a dream, even if it's a poorly planned and articulated one. Jay --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 09 09:02:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 64093 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2008 17:02:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2008 17:02:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.136) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 17:02:46 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:02:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:02:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:02:46 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:02:46 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <694671.5094.qm@web53112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: MISC: The plan is revealed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=dxL4nVfHLsN5W_cz1ddV8mHV4PAkHOWlOEGWab29vTj_ezs X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 George & Jay, Thanks ever so much for the explanations. I really thought I was loosing it! ttfn...Alan From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 09 09:14:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 36317 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2008 17:14:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2008 17:14:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n1.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.128) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 17:14:03 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n1.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:14:03 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:14:02 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.85] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:13:57 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:13:57 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.128 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: HK Disneyland records double-digit growth X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=JldiBcgMqNvpQWPvPReJNPXq7Oa7RwUhXBFFpgUEHEa07Ig X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 7, 2008 Xinhua News Agency China.org.cn http://www.china.org.cn/english/news/242332.htm LANTAU ISLAND, HONG KONG, CHINA -- Hong Kong Disneyland (HKDL) recorded double-digit growth in attendance in the fiscal quarter ending late December, contributing part of the Walt Disney Company's quarterly earnings, the theme park's executive VP and managing director said Thursday. Inaugurating a traditional Chinese dragon dance featuring Disney classic Mickey Mouse in celebration of the beginning of the Lunar New Year, Bill Ernest said visitor flow had been steady throughout the quarter with prolonged festival celebrations such as Halloween and Christmas. Ernest declined to disclose expected attendance to HKDL but said he expected more visitors in the coming several days as it was only the first day of the Chinese New Year. "Kung Hei Fat Choy!" he said, citing a local Chinese phrase for best wishes. "The Year of the Mouse is a very special time for HKDL and Mickey Mouse and we have kicked off the festivities with a specially created dragon procession." The Chinese New Year 2008, or the Lunar New Year, was the year of Mouse,and its first day fell on Feb. 7, 2008 of the solar calendar. Ernest was dressed in the modernized version of a traditional Chinese short robe dotted with full circles and Mickey Mouse images that had been adapted to resemble the Chinese character Fu, or blessings. There were relatively long queues on Thursday at HKDL, the smallest one of the world's several Disneyland theme parks. The theme park, a joint venture between the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Government and the U.S. Walt Disney group, had recorded attendance figures that were lower than expected in the first 2 years since it was officially opened in September 2005. Officials at the HKDL had said that it was not putting attendance figures above everything else and that the theme park was expecting help from further expansions to attract visitors. Meanwhile the park also stepped up marketing by offering special events such as prolonged festivities around Halloween and Christmas. It had designed month-long Lunar New Year special offerings running from Jan. 22 through Feb. 24, with 7 special days in a row starting from the first day of the Chinese New Year, or Feb. 7. Many visitors from China's mainland said they liked the style of the HKDL that mixed eastern and western cultures. Ernest said HKDL would add the major feature of "It's a small world" in addition to at least 4 other projects. With growth in attendance for the quarter ending Dec. 29, the park contributed part of the sound quarterly corporate earnings announced by the United States-based Walt Disney Company on Tuesday, he said. The Disney group said its earnings per share for the fiscal quarter ended December 29 had increased 29% year on year, with improved performance at HKDL reflecting increased attendance. ------------- Copyright =A9 China.org.cn From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 09 09:19:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 20766 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2008 17:19:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2008 17:19:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n53a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.147) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 17:19:08 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n53.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:19:08 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:19:08 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:19:08 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:19:08 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.147 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: RUMOR: Anaheim seeks Disneyland monorail extension X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=At-gnZlRskt32KMHHebk4H4znWSCHI9eN1dEJ7R75k5l7qk X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 3, 2008 Los Angeles Times http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/?p=3D1270 ANAHEIM, CA -- Anaheim Mayor Curt Pringle has floated a $250-million plan to extend the Disneyland monorail to the proposed transportation hub at Angel Stadium in his recent state of the city speech. The proposal calls for Disney and other Anaheim businesses to foot the bulk of the bill for the public monorail system =97 that would serve 2.6 million passengers annually =97 while the city plans to seek additional transportation funding, reported the Orange County Register's Sarah Tully. While Disney officials called the proposal "very interesting" and "exciting," the theme park giant made no offer to pick up the tab. The Mouse would obviously be interested in any monorail that extended from Disneyland to an envisioned third theme park across Katella Avenue. (I'd settle for a monorail stop inside Disney's California Adventure.) Anaheim has a long history of dreamer fever, only to have its fantastic visions crushed on the rocks of reality. The proposed Sportstown entertainment complex at the stadium (complete with an indoor ski park) never got off the ground. The Tinseltown dinner theater (with a Hollywood awards ceremony theme) bowed shortly after its debut. And the city still holds out hope for a replacement NFL team, offering to build a football-only stadium. -------------- Copyright 2007 Los Angeles Times From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 09 09:26:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 73960 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2008 17:26:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2008 17:26:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.135) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 17:26:42 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:26:42 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:26:42 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:26:42 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:26:40 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.135 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Disney Presents Lifetime Passes to HKDL X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=5J3UFgSjllXYmqhr-DbWXjexwxPNBM9js8GmXgj5uWp4tnU X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 2/8/2008 Mickey News http://www.mickeynews.com/News/DisplayPressRelease.asp_Q_id_E_288Pass LANTAU ISLAND, HONG KONG, CHINA -- To celebrate the auspicious Year of the Mouse, Hong Kong Disneyland (HKDL) today announced it will present lifetime passes to Hong Kong's first newborn baby boy and baby girl in the Year of the Mouse. The passes entitle the children to free admission at Disney's theme parks in Hong Kong, the USA and Paris. The parents and siblings of the children will also receive a 10-year complimentary pass. "HKDL is the ideal place for children and their families to have fun and enjoy wholesome, magical entertainment," said Bill Ernest, Executive VP and Managing Director, HKDL Resort. "I'm delighted that HKDL will play a role in the growing up process of the first baby boy and girl born in the Year of the Mouse. They will not only enjoy the immersive experience at HKDL with their parents and siblings, but can also go beyond Hong Kong and experience first-hand the magic of Disney's other theme parks around the world." The complimentary pass is auspiciously called the "Red Pass" and will be presented to the first "Mouse" babies by HKDL Ambassador, Jasmine Law. This special "Red Pass" entitles the newborn to free admission at the HKDL Park; the 4 parks in Florida: Magic Kingdom Park, Epcot, Disney's Hollywood Studios, Disney's Animal Kingdom Park; those in California: Disneyland Park, Disney's California Adventure Park as well as the Disneyland Park and Walt Disney Studios Park in Paris. The parents and siblings of the first 'Mouse' babies will be able to enjoy the same worldwide privileges with their 10-year complimentary passes. ------------- =A9 2008 Mickey News From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 09 09:35:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65291 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2008 17:35:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2008 17:35:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 17:35:49 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:35:49 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:35:49 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.201] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:35:49 -0000 Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:35:47 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.157 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: The Walt Disney Company Reports 1st Quarter Earnings X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=yvgEa2NX5ZKDEp7P1WW34YvDtIyrxjOoPT1kKI9r91Af8As X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Since this article is SOOOO long, I'm just going to post bits & pieces. -Alan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Feb. 5 2008 BusinessWire Comtex Fox News http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/industries/media/article/walt-disney-com= pany-reports-quarter-earnings_466550_15.html BURBANK, CA -- The Walt Disney Company today reported earnings for its 1st fiscal quarter ended December 29, 2007. Diluted earnings per share for the quarter were $0.63. EPS in the prior-year quarter, which included gains on sales of our interests in E! Entertainment and Us Weekly, income from the discontinued operations of the ABC Radio business, and an equity-based compensation plan modification charge, were $0.79. Excluding these items, EPS increased 29% to $0.63 from $0.49 in the prior-year quarter. "We've started off 2008 with another outstanding quarter, marked by strong creative and operational performances," said Robert A. Iger, president and CEO. "These results once again highlight the quality of our content and our unique ability to leverage it across our many businesses and territories." --------------- =A9 2008 SmartMoney 2008 FOX News Network, LLC =A9 2004-2008 Comtex News Network, Inc. From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Sat Feb 09 14:04:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65910 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2008 22:04:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2008 22:04:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53101.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.51) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 22:04:04 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 37674 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2008 22:04:03 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 9B0KzVcVM1kLnvJKyGOat.y.InCHhDFVFzrs9YNKtIqbBzq95z9j.kY7cnyJ_jfAD5bVeoTpMrvAhW2gnMmfa57aaqMAlJf2JaQrbz1Vb9ik6SlfoPPVbfIXD2c76f32Kef0_d2G4n6WpniMiBms9ORYYw-- X-Received: from [72.70.255.124] by web53101.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:04:03 PST Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:04:03 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk In-Reply-To: <1202594524.5.11442.m48@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <902078.33815.qm@web53101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: MISC: The plan is revealed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=BMv2l7T8ridZque3pgJ_LQlTvCRozyb17IlzhL5w_vyWutY1z9KS X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Some see it as a good laugh, some shake their heads at it, some admire the kid for dreaming big. < Ironically, George, the guy is 50 (according to his profile). That makes the whole thing even more interesting.... Jay --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Sat Feb 09 14:05:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 9504 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2008 22:05:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2008 22:05:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.53) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 22:05:09 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 89437 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2008 22:05:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: yrTg3_AVM1nTOBpNQsgzwuZklphmUvrzeBfMJ0qsTB5ywolhpnW1_cGxnbxYN.sWeSSO2vnxM54zrJU_BNR.xN0Nzdq0zz4Jp8XWhHbQkQ8Y7EfqHRFniszIr5e3r4w2iHZL9CT9f_9wNmU- X-Received: from [72.70.255.124] by web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:05:09 PST Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:05:09 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk In-Reply-To: <1202594599.5.46194.m50@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <138300.88176.qm@web53103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.53 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: MISC: The plan is revealed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=139DdI-tty5qmZEh2roaSBI57hzH_nmuv855zWwZTZCZW3zihdb_ X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm reminded of this page on children's artwork: < That is hysterical. Rude, but hysterical. Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 10 10:50:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55482 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2008 18:50:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2008 18:50:05 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.206) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2008 18:50:05 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n18.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2008 18:50:05 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2008 18:50:05 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:50:03 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.206 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Worker dies at Rainbow's End X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=k4VYCKHItSTvdROQnOFKvOTPElR4mAKqIGkQ1aCQ6OPsNyw X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 10, 2008 Television New Zealand http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/536641/1576720 MANUKAU CITY, AUCKLAND, NZ -- Thrill seekers were turned away from one of New Zealand's most popular theme parks on Sunday following the death of a worker. The 21-y.o. died after becoming trapped in a gondola ride at Rainbow's End (RE) before the South Auckland amusement park opened for the day. Michael Stuart from Papakura died when he became trapped between a ferris wheel carriage and its frame. The gates to RE have been open for more than 2 decades but they will be closed for at least 2 days following Stuart's death. RE says it's shocked at the incident. "We regret to advise one of their valuable members and colleagues died in an accident at the park this morning," GM Chris Deere said. Deere says the ride was inspected by independent civil engineers in late January and had daily maintenance checks. He says it's too early to say how the incident happened. Stuart had worked at the park for 2 years and was carrying out routine maintenance when he was fatally caught. "We found a male had been trapped between a ferris wheel carriage and the frame, he was deceased on arrival," paramedic Paul Dillion said. Senior Sergeant Spencer Mathews says there was nothing suspicious in the death. He says police were alerted by a member of the public and the incident was witnessed by work colleagues. The union representing workers at the park says it has a good safety record. Stuart's family have visited the site and are being helped by Victim Support. "The staff member will be missed for his contribution to the success of RE and also for the friendships he formed with everyone else working there," Deere said. Police and Department of Labour inspectors are investigating. A post mortem examination will be carried out on Monday. ------------- Copyright 2008 Television New Zealand From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 10 11:31:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 10439 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2008 19:31:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2008 19:31:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n47a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.141) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2008 19:31:50 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n47.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2008 19:31:50 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2008 19:31:50 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2008 19:31:49 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:31:47 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.141 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Will Disney Keep Us Amused? (Long) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=J0ZzZJTrFh8fp2sdaZ-11NEkR_hA1U6jU8JH7S4BBplnTGY X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 10, 2008 The New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/business/media/10ride.html?hp By Brooks Barnes ANAHEIM, CA -=97 Visit Disney's California Adventure (DCA) =97 a 55-acre theme park next door to the fabled progenitor of the modern amusement Mecca, Disneyland (DL) =97 and you will find a noisy reminder of what happens when a company loses its focus and cuts corners. The Walt Disney Company built the park on the cheap in 2001, and many rides are copies of familiar carnival workhorses like the Ferris wheel. A lack of landscaping can leave guests sweltering. Outdoor shows were borrowed from other Disney properties. And the theme, built around tributes to California, is modest except for an occasionally unintentional ghost-town atmosphere: The park draws about 6 million visitors a year, a trickle compared with the 15 million who swarm DL. Now, Disney is embarking on a $1.1 billion, 5-year effort to get DCA on track. The blueprints call for ripping out ho-hum rides and adding elaborate new ones, rebuilding the park's entrance =97 a hodgepodge of turnstiles, a miniature Golden Gate Bridge and pastel tile murals =97 to shift the focus to Disney iconography. In June, Disney will unveil a glimpse of the shoot-for-the-moon bet it is making on DCA's makeover, with the introduction of a ride called Toy Story Mania (TSM). More than 3 years in the making, and estimated to cost about $80 million, TSM essentially puts guests inside a video game. Riders, wearing 3-D glasses, board vehicles that career through an old-fashioned carnival midway, operated by characters from the popular "Toy Story" film franchise. Vehicles stop at game booths =97 56 giant screens programmed with 3-D animation from Pixar =97 and riders play virtual-reality versions of classic carnival games. But much more is riding on TSM than a complex turnaround of just 1 theme park. TSM, which Disney is also installing in Florida, reflects the larger pressures and challenges facing the company's $10.6 billion parks and resorts business. To stay relevant to younger, digitally savvy visitors while also delivering growth to investors, Disney, the company that invented the modern theme park, knows that it has to devise a new era of spectacular attractions rooted in technology. One-upmanship increasingly drives this intensely competitive business, and Disney's rivals are also trying harder to gain market share. Universal Studios, part of NBC Universal, has more than quadrupled its spending on new rides, introducing attractions in California and Florida that are based on "The Simpsons." Universal is teaming up with Warner Brothers to bring a small Harry Potter-theme park to Florida in late 2009. Niche players like SeaWorld and Legoland are also muscling in on Disney's territory. At its core, however, TSM represents an effort to solve a puzzle that poses a much larger threat to Disney and the broader amusement park business. The quickening pace of daily living, advances in personal technology and the rapidly changing media landscape are combining to reshape what consumers expect out of a theme park, Disney executives say. TSM, which carries a modest price tag compared with some other Disney efforts, demonstrates one way that the company is fighting back, said Jay Rasulo, the chairman of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts. "Bigger and more expensive is not necessarily the answer," Rasulo said. "You want people leaving thinking, `Wow, only Disney could do that.'" Consumers' fixation on instant gratification and personalization has been reshaping the entertainment industry for some time, but it has finally caught up to the theme park business in visible ways. For instance, Disney has spent much more effort =97 and money =97 developing ways to entertain people as they stand in line for TSM. An animatronic figure with an estimated $1 million price tag will sing songs and interact with guests as they wait. Employees dressed as "Toy Story" characters will stroll among the crowds. "There's an erosion of patience," said Bruce Vaughn, the chief creative executive for Walt Disney Imagineering, the company's development group. "People's tolerance for lines is decreasing at a rapid rate." Rasulo said that younger visitors, in particular, expect customized entertainment. So TSM's computers will accommodate riders of various skill levels. "Guests are pretty much no longer interested in being passive viewers," Rasulo said. To address shifting tastes, the broader amusement park industry will have to rewrite its operating rules, said Jerry Aldrich, the founder of Amusement Industry Consulting. "Disney is already there, but a lot of parks are just waking up to this," he said. The health of the parks and resorts unit is crucial to Disney's overall performance. Its lucrative sports unit, ESPN, makes more money, and its movie studio basks in Hollywood glamour. But the parks, where people interact with Mickey and his pals, are the reason that the Disney brand is so powerful, analysts say. As the theme parks go, so goes Disney. Lately, Wall Street has been sounding alarm bells about the unit =97 and not just about DCA. While DL and the cluster of Florida parks that make up Disney World have been churning out record profits on strong increases in attendance, some investors worry that the troubled domestic economy will tear a hole in the business. In late January, a Citigroup analyst downgraded Disney's stock to a sell, citing concern about lower demand for hotel rooms at the resorts. Disney strongly rejects the skepticism, and some other analysts agree. Disney's CFO, Thomas O. Staggs, said the company saw no indication that consumers were cutting back. "We are pleased with the current pace of business at our parks, particularly given the record attendance we achieved last year," he told analysts on Tuesday during a conference call, held as the company released fiscal 1st-quarter earnings. Vacationers from Europe and Asia, benefiting from a weak dollar, could pick up some of the slack in the event of an economic downturn, but that could lead to cannibalization =97 Disney needs those same visitors to patronize theme parks in Paris, Hong Kong and Tokyo. Although its performance has drastically improved from its early days, DL Resort Paris is still struggling after 10 years of changes and heavy capital investment. The park in Japan is cruising right along, but attendance at nearby Hong Kong DL, the company's newest park, has fallen more than 25% since its 2005 opening. Disney told analysts on Tuesday that attendance in Hong Kong has recently "improved significantly" because of new promotions. To make certain that TSM is a hit =97 part of a strategic effort to keep mining revenue from the 13-y.o. "Toy Story" franchise =97 Disney is pulling every lever in its vast arsenal. Pixar, the Disney-owned studio working on "Toy Story 3" for a 2010 release, contributed animation and general creative advice. Disney VR Studios, the company's video game unit, customized software, while the parks and resorts unit handled the heavy lifting of design and construction. The media networks division, which includes ABC, will help publicize TSM once it opens =97 along with hundreds of other promotional partners. "We have an incredible number of engines at this company, and every one is firing around this franchise," Rasulo said. Work on TSM got under way on a stiflingly hot September day in 2005, when a team of Disney creative developers went to the LA County Fair. The goal was to research how carnival games operate. 2 developers, Kevin Rafferty and Robert Coltrin, had devised an idea for a new DCA ride that would juxtapose the old-fashioned romance of a carnival midway with high-tech video game elements. They had a hunch that "Toy Story" and "Toy Story 2," the Pixar films about toys coming to life, would provide a good theme. But they didn't know much about carnival games. "We looked at each other and said, `Are the games we remember from our childhoods even relevant anymore?'" Coltrin said. At the fair, the 2 were thrilled as they walked through rows of game booths =97 wooden structures that carnival operators call "stick joints" =97 to find crowds enjoying classic games like the ring toss and water guns. "We were like, `Score!' and gave each other a high-5," Coltrin recalled. Using digital cameras, members of the development team documented details, from the colors of the canvas covering each booth =97 red and yellow =97 to how far apart the games were spaced. They quickly ruled out some games as options TSM. "Toss a coin in a cup didn't really do it for us," said Chrissie Allen, a senior show producer. But other games, like one in which customers threw darts at balloons, piqued their interest. "We thought, `This just might work,'" Allen said. Reassembling at Disney's offices in Glendale, CA, the team worked on the concept that would become TSM. Because carnivals sell commotion, there would be lots of flashing lights, barkers trying to capture riders' attention, buzzers and bells. Rafferty & Coltrin dreamed up a fanciful story: The classic toys in "Toy Story" had come to life and staged a carnival under their owner's bed while he was away at dinner. Little Bo Peep would operate the balloon darts; Ham, the talking piggy bank, would cheer riders as they tossed virtual eggs at barn animals. The culmination would be "Woody's Rootin' Tootin' Gallery," a twist on old-fashioned shooting galleries. They would use full-scale 3-D animation, a first for a Disney ride. That, Vaughn said, would make riders feel as if they were inside a video game or a virtual world. "We look at it as gaming meets immersive storytelling," he said. While Vaughn and his colleagues were cogitating in the fall of 2005, Disney had its hands full. Robert A. Iger had just taken over the company after the exit of Michael D. Eisner and was working to extend Disney's partnership with Pixar, an effort that would result in a $7.4 billion acquisition. When Rasulo and his team presented Iger with plans for TSM, Iger was interested but cautious. Would TSM dovetail with much larger efforts to overhaul the entire park? TSM could handle up to 1,500 riders an hour. Was that enough? An improved relationship with Pixar looked promising, but what if a deal couldn't be reached? Would that hinder plans to build a lavish ride around Pixar's core creative property? But Iger liked a couple of the important parts of the proposal. Imagineers suggested building versions of TSM at the same time in California and Florida =97 a Disney first =97 to leverage the development costs. Another component involved the ease with which TSM could be rethemed every season. "The chance to take simple games that people have loved playing for generations and pairing them with cutting-edge technology just sounded exhilarating to everybody," Allen said. Building elaborate models is among the first formal steps in creating a Disney attraction. Engineers, paying attention to scale and sight lines, want to find out how a planned addition would affect the existing park. Models are built on large tables equipped with wheels. The company keeps room-size models of entire parks, and engineers will eventually wheel the new model into that area to see how it looks. To give birth to TSM, Rafferty & Coltrin went to work turning drawings of the ride into foam models, toiling in the same 1950s-era building in suburban LA where Walt Disney himself once tinkered. Tweaks started to happen. The team added turrets to the top of TSM for a more dramatic flair. They shifted the direction of the facade by a few degrees to make it more visible from the park entrance. "And we knew at this stage that we wanted a little piece of magic out in front as a tease to people as they waited in line," Coltrin said. Upstairs, designers entered blueprints for TSM into a computer program. This would allow them to start building and refining the entire project, which is made up of 150 computers, with 90 of them moving around on the ride vehicles and communicating with one another via a secured wireless network. With a click of a mouse, developers could jump to any spot inside in the vehicles for a virtual dip into how the experience might look to someone on the ride. "We don't want anybody to be able to see multiple versions of Woody at the same time, and seconds make a difference," said Mark Mine, the technical concept designer. "Every part of TSM has to be magical. It is much easier and less expensive to do this before the concrete has been poured," he added. "As rides become more complicated, your ability to tweak in the field gets harder and much more expensive." Across the street, in a cold, unmarked garage, Allen helped to conduct "play tests" on rudimentary versions of TSM. More than 400 people of all ages =97 all had signed strict nondisclosure agreements =97 sat on a plywood vehicle set up in front of a projection screen and played various versions of the games. Disney workers studied their reactions and interviewed them afterward. "We were looking to see if some effects were too scary," Allen said, "or if there wasn't enough laughing happening during certain sequences." Among the discoveries: People wanted to be able to compare scores after they were finished playing, while some children had a hard time reaching the cannonlike firing controller, christened by Disney as a "spring action shooter." Engineers added a computer screen to vehicles to display scores and installed the controls on movable lap bars. "We were trying to find out things we didn't even know to ask about," said Sue Bryan, a senior show producer. TSM's psychological components started to take shape during this phase. Disney decided that riders were happier when they got a bigger visual payoff. (One of Little Bo Peep's balloons now pops with greater force when hit with a virtual dart and a blast of air shoots into a rider's face.) A game involving shooting at a paper target was dropped. ("It was hard to make paper interesting," Bryan said.) And developers decided that the last game before the exit needed to be the easiest, so riders would feel that they were coming out as winners, even if they weren't very good. After Disney closed the Pixar deal, in January 2006, TSM became more elaborate. Iger wanted Pixar =97 and particularly one of its co-founders, John Lasseter, who had worked as a skipper on the Jungle Cruise ride at DL after college =97 to contribute to creative advances in the parks. Disney had incorporated Pixar movies into its theme parks before, but Pixar's involvement in those efforts was modest, Vaughn said. "The minute Pixar became 100% part of the family, it could go whole hog and dive in," he said. One of Lasseter's major concerns about TSM centered on the animation, various developers said. Disney had hired an outside contractor to handle it, but Lasseter insisted that Pixar staff members who were involved in creating the films should also work on the ride. The Disney team had also decided to leave out Buzz Lightyear, the modern spaceman toy in the films, because he was already showcased in an older ride called Astro Blasters. But Pixar felt that the character was essential to the "Toy Story" franchise. Buzz will now be a host of a game, and he shares top billing on the ride's marquee. Creating what Coltrin had called "a little piece of magic" was another area of special attention for Lasseter and his lieutenants. To entertain people as they waited in line, the developers decided to place one of Disney's signature animatronic figures outside. It would draw attention like a carnival barker, but also be sophisticated enough to interact one on one with guests, adding another element of customization. Only one "Toy Story" figure was considered for the role: Mr. Potato Head. Work on Mr. Potato Head started last year in a heavily guarded Disney research plant a few miles from the company's headquarters in Burbank, CA. Developers had to make a 5'-tall plastic potato sing, dance and seemingly hold conversations with people at random. The robot also had to be able to remove his ear and put it back on. "It's all in the math," said Jimmy A. Thomas, the lead mechanical designer. When Walt Disney introduced animatronics in the 1960s, coining the word in the process, his creations moved in simple ways through the use of pneumatic valves and hydraulic pumps. The children in the It's a Small World attraction wowed patrons simply by blinking their eyes and bowing. Modern visitors expect much more. Mr. Potato Head =97 with help from a dozen video cameras, several computers, an unseen ride operator and a $1 million budget =97 will be able to make his mouth form words, a first for Disney animatronics. The comedian Don Rickles, whose gravelly voice brought the character to life in the films, was hired to record 750 words and 4 songs. The hidden ride operator, armed with a computer and cameras that scan the crowd, will then choose phrases based on the actions and appearance of people standing in front of it. ("Hey, you in the red baseball hat.") The goal was to make the character so perfect that it looked as if it had just stepped out of the movies. Pixar executives tightly monitored every detail and helped direct Rickles. At a recent taping, the Pixar team put him through his paces. "Let's put a little more chuckle in that line," said Roger Gould, Pixar's creative director, sitting in a recording studio as 10 other executives and engineers took notes and adjusted instruments. Rickles complied, repeating a line that would play if the ride stopped unexpectedly. "Folks, we're having a little delay here," he said. "For your safety, please stay seated inside the game tram." Among Disneyphiles, at least, the wait for TSM to open is unbearable. Blogs like Blue Sky Disney and Mice Age, which are not affiliated with the company, have been chronicling minute details of the construction. ("The first ride vehicles have just arrived in California from their production facility in Osaka, Japan!") Al Lutz, the publisher of Mice Age and a critic of what he calls DCA's "cheap strip-mall stucco" aesthetic, says fans are keen to see TSM's over-the-top details. Disney is, after all, a company that studied how the sun struck the earth differently in various locations to determine the color of paint to use on the fairy-tale castle at the center of each resort. "Young people are going to be fighting to be first in line," he said. -------------- Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Sun Feb 10 14:56:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 35424 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2008 22:56:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Feb 2008 22:56:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.58) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2008 22:56:18 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 30164 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Feb 2008 22:56:17 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: laA3OV8VM1nwhVu_w58O_lHR38q_ff.hj.hdL22Zf0YDusBhjyoL.65eTboowUbVhg-- X-Received: from [72.70.255.124] by web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:56:17 PST Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:56:17 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk In-Reply-To: <1202666535.3166.24828.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <691699.28333.qm@web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.58 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: NEWS: HK Disneyland records double-digit growth X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=o7UlZdGY3fyWiNrIOreR_ElZ-ouQUhUBifLJHouzM9dS-MGMyJPA X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > "The Year of the Mouse is a very special time for HKDL and Mickey Mouse and we have kicked off the festivities with a specially created dragon procession." < Well, technically it's the Year of the Rat, not the Mouse. Perhaps the park could rectify this by creating a new themed dark ride featuring Mickey crawling through a sewer. I'm glad to hear that HKDL has picked up a little steam. It's outlook seemed pretty bleak. But heck, since the owners of Taco Bell have had success marketing their own Chinese fast food restaurants in China, I guess anything's possible. Jay --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From adamnvillani@yahoo.com Sun Feb 10 17:12:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: adamnvillani@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 51130 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2008 01:12:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2008 01:12:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n19a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.48) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2008 01:12:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n19.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 01:12:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 01:12:17 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:12:17 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <691699.28333.qm@web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.48 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.237.15.237 From: "adamnvillani" Subject: Re: NEWS: HK Disneyland records double-digit growth X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=145821173; y=l6FpRb_ggnh8mRDpynkXlPNHe_x1TkMT_bIlyma4bCj4FObDAS4d X-Yahoo-Profile: adamnvillani --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, Jay Ducharme wrote: > > > "The Year of the Mouse is a very special time for HKDL and Mickey=20 > Mouse and we have kicked off the festivities with a specially created > dragon procession." < >=20 > Well, technically it's the Year of the Rat, not the Mouse.=20 My wife (and Wikipedia) says that "Year of the Rat" and "Year of the Mouse" are equally valid, as the Chinese character for the year in the zodiac cycle is used for all sorts of different rodents. The zodiac just uses single characters, and to refer specifically to "rat" or "mouse" would require another character in front of the one for "rodent." Similarly, Year of the Rooster is just as validly Year of the Chicken, and Year of the Ox is just as validly Year of the Cow. Adam http://blogbilongadam.blogspot.com From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 11 06:58:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 33084 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2008 14:58:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2008 14:58:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n12b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.110) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2008 14:58:48 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n12.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 14:58:48 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 14:58:48 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.195] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 14:58:48 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:58:46 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.110 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: 'Friends of Conneaut Lake Park' rally to raise funds X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=goZ6OqaIpEYaYqHZGd52JJBIAychJZiPaHubAvyTVYt9eds X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 10, 2008 Associated Press The Meadville Tribune http://www.meadvilletribune.com/local/local_story_041211944.html By Keith Gushard CONNEAUT LAKE, PA -- "The community needs the park to survive and the park needs the community," Wanda Ramaley told a crowd of about 75 people Sunday referring to the closed Conneaut Lake Park (CL) amusement park. Ramaley is one of the organizers of "The Friends of Conneaut Lake Park Fund" to raise money so that CL can pay its bills and reopen for the 2008 season. She hosted a meeting Sunday afternoon at her business the Stable Pit and Pub for those possibly interested in helping the park. CL didn't fully open in 2007 because of lack of funds. A campaign to raise $60,000 was successful, and the Beach Club did open in mid-August 2007 and was open until the end of October. However, the park suffered another setback this month when its Dreamland Ballroom and its maintenance shop were destroyed in a Feb. 1 fire. There was no fire insurance on any of the buildings. The Board of Trustees of CL, which oversees the park, had allowed the insurance to lapse because there was no money to pay it. Eileen Bertera, another of the proposed fund's organizers and owner of the Kaylee Belle tourism boat, put it bluntly. "They're broke," said Eileen Bertera, referring to the financially strapped amusement park. "The first goal is to get the fire insurance paid." The group wants to work with the park's board of trustees to raise money to help pay bills and get the park reopened for 2008, Bertera said. "If it doesn't open =97 we're all hurting," she said. With CL not open, Crawford County's economy loses as much as $16.5 million a year, according to estimates by the Crawford County Convention and Visitors Bureau. The new group is also trying to form committees such as research and development, legal team and fund-raiser to help the trustees. Contacted Sunday night by the Tribune, Jack Moyers, president of the Board of Trustees of CL, said the board would consider working with the new group. "If they present the board with their intentions, the boad would entertain working with them," Moyers said. A fund for donations has been set up with at First National Bank of Pennsylvania at Conneaut Lake, said Bertera. The Friends of Conneaut Lake Park will seek tax-exempt status so contributions can be tax-deductible, Bertera said. There is no set goal for the fund-raising efforts, both Bertera and Ramaley said. "I don't know if it will do any good, but at least we're going to try," Ramaley said of the fund-raising efforts. You can help Donations to aid CL may be made to: Friends of Conneaut Lake Park Fund, in care of First National Bank of Pennsylvania, P.O. Box 70, Conneaut Lake, Pa., 16316. You can go The Sociology Club of Edinboro University of Pennsylvania is holding a fund-raiser to help rebuild CL's historic Dreamland Ballroom that was destroyed in a fire Feb. 1. The club is holding a "Dreams Come True Dance" at the Stable Pit and Pub Restaurant, Conneaut Lake, Saturday from 8-11p.m. Tickets are $10 per person or $15 per couple and can be purchased at the door or in advance by calling 382-8777. Checks should be made out to Conneaut Lake Benevolent Association Auxiliary. ------------ =A9 2005, The Meadville Tribune Associated Press content =A9 2008 From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 11 07:02:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79830 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2008 15:02:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2008 15:02:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n36b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.150) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2008 15:02:17 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n36.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 15:02:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 15:02:17 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 15:02:17 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:02:17 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.150 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Developers of Bible park hope meetings ease concerns X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=f6XiOffCUYbxkHV4QInufKscuJuOhndzMBDtHYT7-h5A1EQ X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 10, 2008 The Associated Press WMC-TV 5 http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=3D7850624 MURFREESBORO, TN -- Developers of a proposed Bible-themed amusement park hope public meetings about the project will ease concerns of Rutherford County residents. The developers have identified an area west of Murfreesboro near I-24 as the location to build the 200-acre Bible Park USA. The site is located about 35 miles southeast of Nashville. Last year, residents concerned about traffic and noise from the development launched a petition drive to stop the project. But developers are holding 3 information sessions in La Vergne, Smyrna and Murfreesboro to hopefully put residents' minds at ease by providing more details about the $175 million project. The first day of the sessions was today and the others will be on Tuesday. --------------- Copyright 2008 The Associated Press Copyright 2000 - 2008 WorldNow and WMCTV From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 11 07:08:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 74740 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2008 15:08:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2008 15:08:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.205) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2008 15:08:28 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by n17.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 15:08:28 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.91] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 15:08:28 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:08:27 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.205 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Namco Bandai Cuts Forecast on Amusement Park Business X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=43shKkvuXnQCyHDKL0tghBJGOflIKw2zzoObB-9J3dhM0UI X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 11, 2008 Bloomberg http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=3D20601101&sid=3DakZM7zdknlqA By Mari Murayama TOKYO, JP -- Namco Bandai Holdings Inc. (N-B), creator of "Pac-man," slashed its annual profit forecast on a slump in its leisure park business and will shut as many as 60 amusement centers. The company's shares fell by their daily limit. Tokyo-based N-B expects net income to total 16.5 billion yen ($155 million) in the year ending March 31, down 38% from its previous target of 26.5 billion yen. Profit fell 26% in the 9 months ended Dec. 31 to 14.7 billion yen. The stock closed 200 yen, or 13%, lower to 1,295 yen in Tokyo, the biggest 1-day drop since the company was created in September 2005 by the merger of Bandai Co. and Namco Ltd. 9-month profit from amusement facility operations fell 57% from a year earlier, the company said today in a statement distributed at the Tokyo Stock Exchange. The Tokyo-based company operated 1,792 amusement outlets in Japan and abroad as of Dec. 31. N-B's 3-year business plan targets 58 billion yen operating profit on sales of 550 billion yen for the 12 months ending March 2009. Operating profit is what remains after subtracting from sales the cost of goods sold and administrative expenses. "It will be difficult to achieve the 3-year target," Takeo Takasu, N-B's president, said at a news conference in Tokyo. He said the company may lower the target. ------------- Copyright 2008 Bloomberg L.P. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 11 07:16:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 31054 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2008 15:16:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2008 15:16:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.215) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2008 15:16:20 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n18.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 15:16:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 15:16:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 15:16:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:16:20 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.215 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: MISC: Crocodiles 'invade' Pasay X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=bm79T_qJN72CQUafuz5j_E1gSAHpbGATAKaOUr2ShjXLUy8 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 02/11/2008 The Philippine Daily Inquirer http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20080211-118051/C= rocodiles-invade-Pasay By Frances Gumapac PASAY CITY, PHILIPPINES -- The carousels have long stopped spinning, the roller coasters pulled out and the circus tents dismantled. But an even more exotic act has replaced the old attractions in this amusement park by the bay known for its heart-stopping rides and entertaining sideshows. Metro Manilans can now experience a taste of the wild side with a show featuring 200 crocodiles, 4 belonging to the endangered Philippine freshwater crocodiles species, with marmots, alpacas and other animals on the side. They have been flown in from Mindanao for the Davao Crocodile Park Roadshow and Wildlife Encounter, now on exhibit at the 11-hectare Boomland (formerly Boom na Boom Complex) on Roxas Boulevard in Pasay City. The event, which will run until the end of the month, offers city folk a chance to sample, hands on, an encounter with wildlife as they touch and take photos of the animals, with the assistance of park attendants. The idea for the road show began with a person's unusual interest in these scaly reptiles. "My fascination with crocodiles began in the 1980s," said Sonny Dizon, owner of the Davao Crocodile Park in Davao City. On a business trip to New York, Dizon saw footwear made of crocodile skin in a shoe store selling the merchandise at $800 a pair. From there, a lucrative business plan was formulated, especially after Dizon learned that crocodiles are raised in the U.S. and Australia not just for public viewing but for the manufacture of shoes and bags as well. "It was then that I toyed with the idea of creating a crocodile farm in the Philippines," he said. In 1995, the government granted the Davao Crocodile Park Inc. (DCPI) accreditation and a permit to operate. But what started out as a business venture eventually led to a commitment to conserve these remarkable creatures. "Conserving and preserving our wildlife would help sustain jobs in the long run for our fellowmen," Dizon told the Inquirer. The DCPI is doing its fair share in educating people about endangered species by bringing the show to different places in the country, with Manila as one of its stops. As an added bonus, professional acrobats will perform a tightrope balancing act over a pond filled with 67 crocodiles. Apart from the crocodiles, also featured are 28 other exotic animals, including an orangutan, a civet, marmots, an alpaca, Palawan bear cats, wild boars, a tiger, raptors, Philippine deer and an albino python, among others. The DCPI is a privately owned rescue unit for wildlife. So far, it has released 43 Philippine freshwater crocodiles (Crocodylus mindorensis) to the Mandug Conservation area in Davao City, with the hope that this move will increase the hatching process and survival rate of the reptiles. The vicinity has a huge freshwater area reminiscent of the natural habitat of the endangered species. ----------- Copyright 2008 Philippine Daily Inquirer From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 11 07:28:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 522 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2008 15:28:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2008 15:28:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.159) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2008 15:28:00 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 15:28:00 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 15:28:00 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2008 15:28:00 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:27:59 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.159 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Tax Relief For Trimper's, Other Parks Need Not Apply X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=eYDD3-nECfNpkOuhEqRHDrJGTxVY7vbJxI8nBAqoDRe11YQ X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 02/06/2008 WBOC-16 http://www.wboc.com/Global/story.asp?S=3D7832326 by Weijia Jiang OCEAN CITY, MD.-- A tax break could be on the way for an Ocean City landmark, but good news for one amusement park is not so good for its major competitor. The Trimper family has been fighting a tax hike since the 2007 property assessments presented an increase of about $50 million in value, which translated to more than $300,000 of property taxes a year for 3 years. The family expressed concern about the figures, and publicly stated the Trimper's Rides and Amusement Park would most likely be shut down and sold if some sort of tax relief was not available. The site has been at the Ocean City inlet for 118 years. On Wednesday, Del. Jim Mathias introduced a bill to the Maryland House of Representatives that would enable both the Worcester County Commissioners and Ocean City Town Council to give Trimper's tax credits to a "historic" amusement park on three conditions: * The park must have been open for more than 100 years; * The same family has owned and operated it and,=20 * It must have been located in the same general place since it opened.=20 The only business in Ocean City that qualifies for that is Trimper's. The bill was presented only after both groups gave official support of the bill. Granville Trimper said, "We are very happy about this. We want to keep bringing happiness to Ocean City visitors. To be honest we would have to close up shop if we didn't get some help, so this is a big deal for us." If state leaders pass the bill, it will be up to Worcester County Commissioners and the Ocean City Town Council to determine how much tax relief to give the Trimper family. The family will also have to re-apply for a tax credit every year. In January, Jolly Rogers Amusements owner Buddy Jenkins asked Worcester County and Ocean City leaders to include his business in the tax relief bill, but Mathias says it is not that easy. "The time and effort that the Trimpers' put into this piece of legislation is obvious. It's taken months to prepare, and it's been under deliberation for years. For any other case we'll have to look at that respectfully, each case on its own merit," Mathias said. Mathias said he introduced the bill only after he received letters of support for Trimper's from Worcester County and Ocean City, but no such letters of support come for Jolly Rogers. WBOC tried to reach Jenkins several times, but he did not return any phone calls. ---------------- Copyright 2000 - 2008, WorldNow and WBOC From dougjnelson@gmail.com Mon Feb 11 18:38:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: dougjnelson@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 67389 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2008 02:38:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2008 02:38:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.148) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2008 02:38:54 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 02:38:54 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 02:38:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 02:38:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:38:29 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.148 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.186.92.47 From: "Doug Nelson" Subject: disney rides of the past X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=261787472; y=4Cd0JiMpIGxTMJartxiegmL7Et8fiRf64liMtTKaS6IG1i_gJg4deTLRow X-Yahoo-Profile: fluffythegod3000 here is a fun little story i found on myspace; http://news.myspace.com/funny_misc/weird_wacky/item/14501906 From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 12 07:28:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71770 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2008 15:28:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2008 15:28:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n24c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.214) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2008 15:28:30 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n24.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 15:28:30 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.73] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 15:28:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:28:29 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.214 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Bible Park May Be Delayed, Developers Miss Deadline X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=vzRPUVRfSFPI8TzxZjwQXibkaYGHlIS_fhE23i6afYjgx6Y X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 12, 2008 WKRN-2 http://www.wkrn.com/nashville/news/bible-park-may-be-delayed-developers-mis= s-deadline/136128.htm MURFREESBORO, TN -- Plans for a bible theme park in the Blackman community of Rutherford County may be delayed. The Daily News Journal is reporting that the bible park may be delayed until after April because developers missed a deadline for filing paperwork. Armon Bar-Tur is behind Bible Park USA, a $175 million project. Bar-Tur said the park is like an enhanced trip to vacation bible school, inspired by people who want to travel to the holy land, but don't have the time or money. Some people are concerned that the park would bring noise and traffic problems to the neighborhood. Developers are holding meetings Tuesday so residents of Rutherford County can hear more about plans for the park. The first meeting Tuesday will be from 11 a.m. until 1:30 p.m. in Smyrna at the Town Centre. Another meeting will be Tuesday from 4:30 p.m. until 7:30 p.m. at the Lane AgriPark in Murfreesboro. Developers said they hope to open the park by Easter 2010. ------------ Copyright 2008 by WKRN Nashville Tennessee From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 12 07:36:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 23042 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2008 15:36:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2008 15:36:37 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n29a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.31) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2008 15:36:37 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n29.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 15:36:37 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.197] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 15:36:37 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:36:36 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.31 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Disney to open 'American Idol' theme park attraction X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=iHTmRBCHqEHEpODlFYyA4xQDg1_7IsfRS1vhCjI8HCoiVXc X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 08, 2008 The Associated Press USA Today http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2008-02-07-disney-american-idol= _N.htm?csp=3D34 By Derrik J. Lang LAKE BUENA VISTA, FL -- Walt Disney World is about to get a little pitchy, dawg. Walt Disney Parks and Resorts announced plans Thursday to create a live performance attraction based on "American Idol" at Disney's Hollywood Studios theme park =97 formerly called Disney-MGM Studios =97 in Lake Buena Vista, FL. "Our goal is to try to recreate the excitement of those 24 people who show up on that 'American Idol' stage," Disney Parks chairman Jay Rasulo told The Associated Press. "We believe many, many viewers want to know exactly how that feels, and we're going to try to reproduce that feeling for them." Much like the hugely popular Fox singing competition, the as-yet-unnamed attraction =97 scheduled to open in late 2008 =97 will allow theme park guests to audition then perform before a live studio audience inside the Hollywood Studios' theater space formerly occupied by the "Doug Live!" and "Superstar Television" attractions. Disney licensed the rights to create the attraction from "Idol" co-producers 19 Entertainment and FremantleMedia, despite the fact "American Idol" airs on Fox and Disney owns broadcast competitor ABC. "It is owned by us, so we can extend the brand in the off-air space in the ways that we want to," said Keith Hindle, FremantleMedia's licensing VP. "We don't see this in any way as a NewsCorp. vs. Disney debate. That's never been part of the discussion, and it's not something that's relevant to us. It's just part of 'American Idol."' The attraction's details are still being worked out, but it will probably operate something like this: Theme park guests ages 14 and up will be able to audition for a Disney casting producer. Those who pass the test will be selected to appear in one of the park's "Idol" stage shows. Rasulo anticipates 6-8 such shows a day. Backstage, the performers will receive hair and makeup touchups from a stylist and singing tips from a vocal coach. Then, the guests will perform on an "Idol"-like set in front of a live audience and 3 judges. No, not Randy Jackson, Paula Abdul and Simon Cowell. Instead, Rasulo says it's likely 3 audience members will be selected to evaluate the performers while a live host will keep the show moving. Top audience vote-getters will compete in a grand finale show at the end of each day. Overall daily champs will win a special front-of-the-line pass at a regional audition for the actual "American Idol" show. Hindle says Disney winners won't be given any special treatment during the real audition, just the ability to skip ahead. Because of eligibility differences =97 namely, the TV show's 16-28-y.o. age limit =97 winners may be offered the option of transferring their pass to a friend or family member, but they won't be allowed to sell it. Daily champs too young to audition for the real deal could save the pass until they're old enough to compete, according to Hindle. But will there be enough Fantasias and Sanyayas to keep theme park audiences captivated? "I know that there's enough talent on any given day in our theme parks to keep people entertained," said Rasulo. Beyond the attraction, Hindle says actual "Idol" stars may make appearances throughout the year and merchandise designed by both FremantleMedia and Disney's product divisions especially for the attraction would be available for sale. "It's a very collaborative process," Hindle said. "Disney knows more about live stage productions that we ever will. We know more about our TV show that Disney ever will. Exactly how this will manifest it is something that will be mutually approved by all parties. We're looking to Disney to see how their guests like to be entertained." ------------- Copyright 2008 The Associated Press Copyright 2008 USA TODAY From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 12 07:50:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 47949 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2008 15:49:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2008 15:49:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n31c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.8) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2008 15:49:59 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n31.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 15:49:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2008 15:49:58 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:49:58 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Attraction designers are on a creative roll X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=lG8jyKPhItRGD-ySVur5ubYsBMmsVGWR_ErFepFoncUZI5s X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 11, 2008 Orlando Sentinel http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-cover11x08feb11,0,486271.story?= track=3Drss By Scott Powers ORLANDO, FL -- Imagine the ride of the future, featuring the hottest theme-park trends and technologies: As a laser-guided, indoor-ride car moves forward, a robotic arm makes the seats rise and fall, swivel left and right, and spin, so that riders might feel as though they are flying with all the freedom of a butterfly. The space they fly through is mostly dark but aglow with digital video images that appear 3-dimensional and different to every rider, with high-definition theatrical sounds and other special effects making a storybook environment. The riders don't just fly through the story, they work devices that let them choose their experience, alter their movements, and interact with the images. For the next round of attractions coming to Orlando --SeaWorld's new water park, Aquatica, due this spring; Walt Disney World's next big ride, Toy Story Mania, due this summer; and Universal Orlando's new attractions area, The Wizarding World of Harry Potter, due next year -- theme park executives are not offering many details. But they are setting up high expectations."Aquatica is like no other water park in the world," said Joe Couceiro, marketing VP for Busch Entertainment Corp., parent company of SeaWorld and Aquatica. "Toy Story Mania is the next-generation interactive, ride-through experience," saidTom Fitzgerald, executive VP and senior creative executive of Walt Disney Imagineering. "Wizarding World is probably going to bring to life the most stunning technologies across the gamut of ride-show experiences," said Mark Woodbury, president of Universal Creative. The pressure is on to deliver on such boasts. Competition is heating up, with big, new tourist-destination parks springing up in the Middle East, China, Singapore and elsewhere. Even some smaller, regional parks are now trying to develop high-tech attractions such as Universal Orlando's The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man -- the kind of rides that previously helped set Orlando's big destination parks apart from the rest of the pack. "Spider-Man at Universal really opened a door. The Curse of DarKastle at Busch Gardens inVirginia is essentially the same ride -- and DarKastle reduced the costs," said Kenneth Eff, a partner in Orlando-based Attraction Design Services, which is developing rides for the new Hard Rock Park that opens in South Carolina this spring. "Since then, I think other parks are looking and saying, 'Well, we can get the same technologies as Disney and Universal, for a lot less money.' " Audiences, too, are raising the bar. Theme parks must out do the thrills, realism and control that people can now find at home in increasingly sophisticated video games and interactive Internet sites. Consequently, hybrids of existing thrill rides and technology-driven indoor, or "dark," rides are being developed, said Bill Coan, president of Orlando-based ITEC Entertainment Corp., whose clients include Universal. "You combine the best in theater effects with aggressive thrill rides, on top of which you're sitting on motion bases -- not only moving forward and backward, but rocking up and down and sideways," Coan said. "The dark-ride genre is still story-driven, but in large part it really needs good theatrical and cinematic effects to pull off the show because, doggone it, these kids growing up today are not going to want to see It's A Small World now." Like his counterparts, Universal Creative President Woodbury declines to offer many details about future rides, including The Simpsons attraction that opens this summer and the Wizarding World rides to come later. He did say that Universal is pursuing technologies that let riders customize their experience -- choosing from among planned encounters and adjusting the intensity. Robotics that can adjust a rider's position will play "a very big role, and are enabling things to happen that have never happened before," he said. Public records show that, in recent months, Universal has hired one of the world's top roller-coaster manufacturers and a large-structure construction company, as well as numerous show-technology and dark-ride specialists. But they would not talk about their projects, citing nondisclosure agreements. "We want deeper levels of immersion, by using ride systems that are integrated to show systems that work seamlessly together," Woodbury said. "The Wizarding World is going to take that to a whole new level beyond Spider-Man." Both Universal and Disney insist that the immersion of customers into a good story, not the latest technology, must remain the foundation of their attractions. "Immersion is our stock in trade," said Scott Trowbridge, VP for creative research and development at Walt Disney Imagineering. "For us, the technology is always in service of the story," he said. "Say Midway [Toy Story] Mania: one of the coolest pieces of technology in that attraction is a really, really fast track switch that allows us to send vehicles into different scenes in a way we wouldn't have been able to do before. ... We're all really excited about it. But we don't want our guests to think or care about it." For Busch, the latest innovations stress immersing visitors into real-life habitats, not stories, said Couceiro. The company renamed its parks group "Worlds of Discovery" to emphasize what he calls Busch's specialty: educational attractions. Visitors might not want to be lectured, but they want more than thrills, he said; they want to leave feeling fulfilled. "Jungala in Tampa is a great example of that," he said, referring to the new attractions area that opens this spring in Busch Gardens Tampa Bay. "It's the up-close encounters with the white tigers, or having an orangutan over your head, or doing a tug of war with a tiger with a rope pull. You have all kinds of different discovery caves that allow you to immerse yourself in this habitat," he said. "When you do that, you're being entertained, but you're also being educated whether you know it or not." ------------ Copyright =A9 2008, Orlando Sentinel From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Feb 14 07:32:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 29728 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2008 15:32:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2008 15:32:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n52b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.166) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2008 15:32:26 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n52.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2008 15:32:11 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2008 15:32:11 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.77] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2008 15:32:11 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:32:10 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.166 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Disneyland goes back to the future X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=OwhFdylnDe0Kq3U_6NEFeLt8nvGvfrd9MU-5Laz1rEY9Aow X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 13, 2008 The Associated Press CNN http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/13/disney.future.ap/index.html?section=3Dcn= n_latest ANAHEIM, CA -- Millions of Disneyland (DL) visitors lined up a half-century ago to catch a glimpse of the future: a home teeming with mind-blowing gadgets such as hands-free phones, wall-sized televisions, plastic chairs, and electric razors and toothbrushes. The "House of the Future," a pod-shaped, all-plastic dwelling that quickly seemed quaint closed its doors a decade later. Now Disney is set to open a new abode in Tomorrowland -- this time in partnership with 21st century technology giants. The 5,000-sq-ft home scheduled to open in May will look like a normal suburban home outside, but inside it will feature hardware, software and touch-screen systems that could simplify everyday living. Lights and thermostats will automatically adjust when people walk into a room. Closets will help pick out the right dress for a party. Countertops will be able to identify groceries set on them and make menu suggestions. The $15 million home is a collaboration of The Walt Disney Co., Microsoft Corp., Hewlett-Packard Co., software maker LifeWare and homebuilder Taylor Morrison. Visitors will experience the look of tomorrow by watching Disney actors playing a family of 4 preparing for a trip to China. "It's much different than a spiel that you would get at a trade show," said Dave Miller, director of alliance development for Walt Disney Parks & Resorts. "We won't get into the bits and the bytes. It will be about the digital lifestyle and how that lifestyle can help you." The actors will be in a flurry of cooking, packing and picture-taking designed to emphasize cutting-edge features in the home's 2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining room, study and back yard. Much of the project will showcase a network that makes the house "smart" and follows family members from room to room -- even adjusting artwork -- to preset personal preferences. When a resident clicks a TV remote, for example, lights will dim, music will shut off and the shades will draw as the network realizes a movie is about to start. The system will allow residents to transfer digital photos, videos and music among televisions and computers in different rooms at the click of a button. Other applications still in development could include touch-screen technology built into appliances, furniture and countertops, said Joe Belfiore, Microsoft's VP for entertainment services. In the kitchen, for example, touch pad software on the countertop would be able to identify groceries and produce recipes and meal suggestions. Similar programs could turn a desktop into a computer screen, allowing residents to load photos, music or e-mail onto a cell phone by placing it on the desk. Mirrors and closets could identify clothes and suggest matching outfits, complementary colors or track what apparel is at the cleaners or in the wash. The home will also feature new uses for devices that many visitors may already own, as well as technologies that are still 5-10 years down the road, said Mike Seamons, VP of marketing at LifeWare, which makes home automation software. "If people walk through there and say, 'I don't have anything in this house at all,' then we've totally failed," Seamons said. "We're not waiting for robots to happen in order for it to be a reality." When it comes to aesthetics, designers decided to stray from the Jetsons-style House of the Future -- an all-plastic cross design with 4 wing-shaped bays that appeared to float. The house was so tough that wrecking balls bounced off it when Disney ripped it down in 1967. The new home will be made of wood and steel and finished in muted browns and beiges, said Sheryl Palmer, president and CEO of Taylor Morrison in North America. "The 1950s home didn't look like anything, anywhere. It was space-age and kind of cold," she said. "We didn't want the (new) home to intimidate the visitors. We want the house to be real accessible to our guests." --------------- Copyright 2008 The Associated Press =A9 2008 Cable News Network From russellcott@yahoo.com Fri Feb 15 06:57:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: russellcott@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 32187 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2008 14:57:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2008 14:57:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n31a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.208) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2008 14:57:12 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n31.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 14:57:12 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 14:57:12 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.85] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 14:57:12 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:57:10 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.208 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 125.65.32.83 From: "russellcott" Subject: Get herpes or HPV? 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Just in time for Valentine's day - thanks!! -Nate ;) From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Feb 15 07:32:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13413 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2008 15:32:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2008 15:32:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n31a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.208) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2008 15:32:27 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n31.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 15:32:27 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 15:32:27 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 15:32:27 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:32:27 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.208 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: Get herpes or HPV? See who have STD in your area. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=KKL6pzj3eF5m6Vo6EhvljM9aXBv05hvSq4__OOl3bFpUVFM X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 I'm glad you have a good humor about this. The "Member" has been put on report. I'll leave it to George to see if they get bounced or not. -Alan --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Nate Kohlrusch" wrote: > > > You can contact STD people, if you want to chat, share stories, make > > friends or find lifetime match. >=20 > Just in time for Valentine's day - thanks!! >=20 > -Nate >=20 > ;) From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Feb 15 07:52:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 46646 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2008 15:52:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2008 15:52:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n48b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.162) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2008 15:52:16 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n48.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 15:52:16 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 15:52:16 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 15:52:16 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:52:16 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.162 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Day of Fun at Theme Park Turns Into a Tragedy X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=1sAx6TjKZdqfPrAmgfHOMu7rbeIMftxTCmDvYxN3tdrc6E0 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 14 February 2008 (07 Safar 1429) Arab News http://www.arabnews.com/?page=3D1§ion=3D0&article=3D106744&d=3D14&m=3D2= &y=3D2008&pix=3Dkingdom.jpg&category=3DKingdom By Lulwa Shalhoub JEDDAH, SAUDI ARABIA -=97 A day of fun at a Jeddah theme park turned into a bloody scene when a 3-y.o. boy died after a train ran over him. The accident occurred at the Atallah Park Tuesday night between 9-10 p.m., witnesses said. "As my family and I entered the theme park, we went to buy tickets. The tickets counter was closed and they told me that there was an accident and a boy was seriously injured. I didn't know he actually died," said Haya Al-Ghamdi, a middle-aged mother of 3. The boy was riding the train at Atallah Park on Jeddah's Corniche when his seat belt came loose. He fell out and was run over by another train. Civil Defense rescuers took the boy to a nearby hospital where he died. The reason for the accident is unclear. A Civil Defense source, who didn't want to be named, said police are investigating the incident. He said amusement parks do not adequately screen kids to ensure they are old enough to get on the rides safely. "Parents have to be more cautious," he said. Atallah Park was closed indefinitely after the accident. Safety inspectors were at the park yesterday checking the rides. The results of the inspection weren't available yesterday. The Jeddah Police Department did not answer Arab News requests for comment. The Civil Defense has a special department that checks on safety measurements at amusement centers. Inspectors follow a schedule of weekly and monthly maintenance. Arab News covered an accident last summer at Al-Shallal Theme Park, also located on Jeddah's Corniche. 2 Civil Defense teams and an ambulance were called to that theme park to save 24 women and children who were stuck in the air in a ride that is called "The Fan". 3 years ago 10 people were injured in an accident at an amusement park in the Eastern Province. ------------ Copyright: Arab News =A9 2003 From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Feb 15 07:58:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61664 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2008 15:58:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2008 15:58:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.56) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2008 15:58:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n17.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 15:58:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 15:58:42 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:58:42 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.56 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Theme park supporters circulate petitions X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=d-QrpyM-8rP-n5EyMysap5aDTjik_B3jZivIPBkcPTlXrqE X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 13, 2008 The Associated Press Traverse City Record-Eagle http://www.record-eagle.com/local/local_story_044094636.html By Sheri McWhirter GRAYLING, MI -- Supporters of a proposed theme park in Crawford County are gathering signatures on informal community petitions to encourage state officials to sell 1,800 acres of public land for the development. The grassroots effort won't go unnoticed by state decision-makers, but it also won't change required proof of finances for the entire project before the land sale is finalized, officials said. Jean Weaver nearly collected 40 signatures at North Country Corner, a clothing shop she co-owns in Grayling. She wants to see the theme park plan realized, as do most people she knows, she said. "We want things done properly, but we'd like to see it happen," Weaver said. The petition's language includes the need for stringent environmental requirements and full financing before the land is sold. Nearly 800 pro-project signatures already arrived at the Crawford County Economic Development Partnership in Grayling, which organized the petition drive to last through Friday, said Gaila Gilliland, director. "These are man-on-the-street petitions," she said. "It can't help but show there's support." Not everyone signed when asked, though. "I didn't believe it from the day they announced it and I still don't believe it will ever happen," said Pete Kocefas of Frederic, who said he was approached at least three times about the theme park petition. Axiom Entertainment of Rochester wants to build a $161 million amusement park near I-75 in Grayling Township. Proponents say it would create thousands of jobs and spark a local economic boon, while others expressed environmental concerns for the Au Sable River watershed and the use of public dollars on the venture. The company's lead developer for the project is Patrick Crosson, who emerged from personal bankruptcy in 2006 and worked in the 1990s to build a theme park in Indiana, which eventually failed in bankruptcy. The Michigan Department of Natural Resources wants proof that developers have enough money before they sell the land, said David Freed, land and facilities chief. "We're still finalizing documents. We're finishing them up," said Susan Haddad, company spokeswoman. "The funds for the purchase of the land are there, but they wanted to see it for the entire theme park." In the meantime, the community petitions will be considered, Freed said. "It doesn't mean they might get the result they want, but we won't ignore it. It will be part of our record for this project," Freed said. -------------- =A9 2008, CNHI Associated Press content =A9 2007 From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Feb 15 08:07:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 16757 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2008 16:07:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2008 16:07:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.178) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2008 16:07:26 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 16:07:26 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 16:07:26 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 16:07:26 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:07:26 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.178 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Board votes to pursue park study X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=3_FfeHQY2XZgXjIw1v5tPKkYnXxqvhvBnvMRd87BKUnYWlY X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 15. 2008 Times Daily http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20080215/NEWS/802150330/1011/news By Trevor Stokes Florence, AL -- A feasibility study to determine whether a proposed indoor water-theme park would be a success is now in position to move forward. The Shoals Chamber of Commerce board voted Thursday to pursue the study and will solicit proposals and evaluate consultants who want to conduct the study. Developer Roger Brown, a Shoals native and partner of Nashville-based Centrum Properties, has agreed to pay for the study, officials said. Brown owns Doublehead Resort near the Lawrence-Colbert County line. His company specializes in residential and commercials developments. Brown was unavailable for comment Thursday. If the proposal is viable and if it's approved, the park would be built in Florence's Veterans Park and would satisfy the area's commitment to a tourism project involving the Retirement Systems of Alabama. The project involves 2 Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail courses in Colbert County and a luxury hotel and convention center in Florence. In November, Brown, several local leaders and an RSA representative visited Wisconsin Dells, WI, where they toured an indoor water park. The park, which is between Chicago and Minneapolis, includes water slides, tubing and wading pools. The group included chamber President Steve Holt. They returned with interest in exploring a similar park for the Shoals. Although Brown will pay for the study, the chamber will ultimately select the consulting company. "The next logical step is to coordinate a feasibility study to determine whether the Shoals area could sustain this type of development," Holt said. "Our role would be to get the feasibility study done. We're not looking to find the lowest priced or the highest priced. We're trying not to let price be the issue but experience (of the consultant)" Holt said, based on similar projects, "the water park would highlight the natural resources provided by the Tennessee River." Holt said consultants will have to consider the potential radius from which tourists would be drawn to the area in order to determine the proper size of the proposed park. "We're told there's half a dozen consultants around the country that do those things," Holt said. "If there's 20 (consultant companies) out there, we would send all 20 requests for proposals." Any major development at Veterans Park will need financial backing from investors. The Public Park Authority of the Shoals, which includes local governments involved in the RSA project, has set aside $2 million for a Veterans Park project. That money, however, would be used to assist in resolving infrastructure needs at the park. The project will ultimately need to receive approval from the Tennessee Valley Authority, which owns the land. "It's something that will fit at Veterans and complement the hotel and the conference center as well as the golf course," said Dick Jordan, vice chairman of the Public Park Authority. Florence officials have received other ideas for possible developments at Veterans Park, including a whitewater rafting park (shoalswhitewater.com), which has received some preliminary work. None of the other projects has received financial backing for a feasibility study. "We just have not had the finances to fund a feasibility study on so many projects," said Florence Mayor Bobby Irons. "We have received numerous suggestions but the indoor park seems to be a workable solution to this challenge." --------------- =A9 Copyright 2008 TimesDaily From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Feb 15 08:11:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 89871 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2008 16:11:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2008 16:11:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.148) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2008 16:11:19 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 16:11:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 16:11:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2008 16:11:19 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:11:18 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.148 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Park ready to reopen X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=gpHqPAgGGwxSlRAH5RV-RsdSMbaE2tgG7iOIrnKXT9SBOwM X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 14, 2008 The Associated Press The Valdosta Daily Times http://www.valdostadailytimes.com/local/local_story_045224356.html VALDOSTA, GA -- Wild Adventures Theme Park in Valdosta is preparing to reopen after taking some time off for refurbishment. Click on the photos at left to see work on the park going on. ------------ Copyright =A9 2005 South Georgia Media Group Associated Press content =A9 2008 From gburnash@earthlink.net Fri Feb 15 14:18:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: gburnash@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 74408 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2008 22:18:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2008 22:18:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (209.86.89.61) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2008 22:18:29 -0000 X-Received: from pool-71-98-225-18.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.98.225.18] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JQ8t3-0003WQ-Dc for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:18:29 -0500 Message-ID: <47B60F0F.2000005@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:15:43 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95f3a1acbbcf5638846e115e3e8cf45574bf435c0eb9d478fb5088d70c8a068c651d1c7bb4ad67cc7959c2e7345438cb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.89.61 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: george burnash Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: Get herpes or HPV? See who have STD in your area. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=115345197; y=eMlHAyUs2Jm_qh59l49S-lSDHwM7yTLGoRtrikJ7-8YAJCk X-Yahoo-Profile: gburnash Alan wrote: > > > I'm glad you have a good humor about this. > The "Member" has been put on report. I'll leave it to George to see if > they get bounced or not. > Oh yeah, you knew this turkey was getting reported to Yahoo and banned. Bye bye, enjoy your std and keep it to yourself. k'thanks bybynow. George From munkye1972@yahoo.com Fri Feb 15 22:55:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: munkye1972@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 6058 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2008 06:55:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2008 06:55:20 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n24b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.235) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2008 06:55:20 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n24.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 06:55:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 06:55:15 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.82] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 06:54:48 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:54:48 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.235 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.162.44.4 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: NEWS: Day of Fun at Theme Park Turns Into a Tragedy X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=124743306; y=Xs-Udp7bozS2shWl7RQCzybbxZyTUdIa_zqMrTEI5iCyZfo5tg X-Yahoo-Profile: munkye1972 Wait. He was riding a train that had seat belts, fell out, and was hit=20 by ANOTHER train?=20 I'm thinking there's a mistranslation and this isn't park trains, but=20 something else. Maybe a mouse, wildcat/galaxi or monorail type ride? Chris --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > > 14 February 2008 (07 Safar 1429) > Arab News > By Lulwa Shalhoub >=20 > JEDDAH, SAUDI ARABIA -=97 A day of fun at a Jeddah theme park turned > into a bloody scene when a 3-y.o. boy died after a train ran over him. >=20 > The boy was riding the train at Atallah Park on Jeddah's Corniche when > his seat belt came loose. He fell out and was run over by another > train. Civil Defense rescuers took the boy to a nearby hospital where > he died. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 16 07:24:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 32842 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2008 15:24:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2008 15:24:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n50c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.184) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2008 15:24:24 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n50.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 15:24:24 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 15:24:24 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 15:24:24 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:24:24 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.184 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: RollerCoaster Tycoon Creator Settles Lawsuit With Atari X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=b3y5Pz8PztP5r8iP9oHcSmXnS53fxrzqhJX_R1_Y59Swz2U X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 05, 2008 IGN Entertainment http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/36518/RollerCoaster-Tycoon-Creator-Settle= s-Lawsuit-With-Atari LONDON, UK -- Chris Sawyer was looking for royalties he claimed Atari owed him: An out of court settlement has brought to a close the legal battle Sawyer initiated in 2005 claiming that Atari had not paid some $4.8m in royalties. Previously, Sawyer alleged Atari had breached a licensing agreement by not allowing his auditors access to accounts from 1999 to 2001. Atari's revenue from Sawyer's games, including Transport Tycoon and 3 versions of RollerCoaster Tycoon, was at the time estimated at around $180 million of which Sawyer received about $30m - but he said the figure fell short of what was due. He said forensic accountants had discovered 13 instances of payments which were wrongly withheld. ------------- Copyright 1996-2007, IGN Entertainment, Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 16 07:30:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18596 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2008 15:30:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2008 15:30:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.246) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2008 15:30:07 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by n20.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 15:30:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 15:30:06 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:30:06 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.246 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Amusement park wins approval for indoor roller coaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=DVI1EKKan4yl1m1Z6Tya0_cahQJzSDtgzKp1_3s_OrJeg5s X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 13, 2008 The Associated Press The Boston-Herald http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=3D1073= 228&srvc=3Dhome&position=3Drecent AGAWAM, MA -- Officials at Six Flags New England are hoping to open a new indoor roller coaster in time for the summer season. The Zoning Board of Appeals in Agawam has approved a height variance for the 70'-tall structure, which would exceed the city's 45' limit for business zones. The $7 million "Dark Knight Coaster" will have a Batman theme and operate almost entirely in the dark. A Six Flags spokeswoman says the park hopes to have it up and running by the Memorial Day weekend. ------------ =A9 Copyright 2008 Associated Press =A9 Copyright by the Boston Herald and Herald Media From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 16 07:33:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 74707 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2008 15:33:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2008 15:33:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n23d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.213) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2008 15:33:48 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n23.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 15:33:48 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.85] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 15:33:48 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:33:46 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.213 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: SoCal roller coaster enthusiasts rev your engines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=JT64gihl7HOyW_8FuJBiQzEmWNxxsz1gnonAVUMrDG96MCo X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 9, 2008 Los Angeles Times http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/?p=3D1315 By Brady MacDonald BUENA VISTA, CA -- Knott's Berry Farm hosts the 9th annual Winter Coaster Solace on Saturday, March 8, while Six Flags Magic Mountain hosts the 5th annual West Coast Bash on Sunday, March 9. At Knott's in Buena Park, participants can ride on Silver Bullet, Sierra Sidewinder, GhostRider, Xcelerator, Supreme Scream and Montezooma's Revenge before the park opens. At Magic Mountain in Valencia, participants can ride Tatsu, Viper and Revolution before the park opens and Goliath, Scream and Colossus after the park closes. Both events include a behind-the-scenes tour of future attractions, lunch and a souvenir T-shirt. The Knott's event is limited to dues-paying members of American Coaster Enthusiasts (and other roller coaster clubs). Tickets are $25 for members who are also Knott's platinum annual passholders (non-passholders pay an additional $30 for park admission). Deadline to register: Feb. 15. The Magic Mountain event is limited to Theme Park Review members (and members of other roller coaster websites and clubs). Tickets are $20 for Magic Mountain annual passholders (non-passholders pay an additional $18.50 for park admission). Deadline to register: March 3. -------------- Copyright 2007 Los Angeles Times From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 16 07:38:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 9370 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2008 15:38:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2008 15:38:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n52b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.166) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2008 15:38:43 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n52.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 15:38:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 15:38:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2008 15:38:43 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:38:42 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.166 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Disneyland's Big Thunder Mountain goat missing X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=wMW1Zf6Rlwlf6GbdPCSlmiZgX9tj1_MMDpd3ANzmLyQJ0ug X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 14, 2008 Los Angeles Times http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/?p=3D1338 By Brady MacDonald ANAHEIM, CA -- Missing since November, the beloved dynamite-chewing goat on the Big Thunder Mountain Railroad roller coaster is expected to wander back to his exposed butte in the next few weeks, according to Disneyland officials. The extended and unexplained disappearance fueled speculation on Internet chat rooms about the bleating goat's demise and led to more than a few instances of baa-baa-bad humor. Officially, the nameless, genderless goat is "on vacation." Unofficially, the audio-animatronic animal is getting a new fur coat in the Anaheim theme park's maintenance department after years of exposure to the wind, sun and rain. Disney fans fondly recall the legendary "goat trick" =97 where riders at the crest of the 2nd lift hill train their eyes on the goat throughout the subsequent sharp turn to greatly increase the sideways G-forces. My 7-y.o. daughter, Hannah, worries about the death-defying creature's fate as she waits impatiently for the "goat ride" (as she calls it) to return to its full and explosive glory. In the meantime, Hannah bides her time on the "a-bob-di-bull snowman" ride (a.k.a. Matterhorn Bobsleds roller coaster). -------------- Copyright 2007 Los Angeles Times From lance@screamscape.com Sat Feb 16 09:00:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 24686 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2008 17:00:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2008 17:00:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta09.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2008 17:00:25 -0000 X-Received: from dm07.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta09.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D900408C4 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:24 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm07 X-Received: by dm07.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id dm07.47b39da6.16c276 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:24 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHtxao5KRjbgIAAAAB,fa1c06039a6d1c99dd7f73edd5e52879 Message-ID: <2A5DE5C77BAE4F229118C7BDBAFD3322@ScreamscapeHP> To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:00:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: SoCal roller coaster enthusiasts rev your engines X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=7xD6ETjD8tOOf8rV3lvuMFxXdW1EL_2RQuD6CAMXDJTeRMbAq6gDCxQFXA X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance >>The Knott's event is limited to dues-paying members of American >>Coaster Enthusiasts (and other roller coaster clubs). I thought admission to the Winter Coaster Solace at Knott's was open to anyone now, but you only needed to have an ACE membership for whatever the "Exclusive in-park offers for ACE* member only" bit is. http://www.knotts.com/special_events/pdf/08WCS.pdf From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Sat Feb 16 18:15:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 22076 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2008 02:15:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2008 02:15:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.58) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2008 02:15:04 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 7653 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Feb 2008 02:15:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FyUXQ_AVM1lJ_KiF5F6yV67pWPLru6o_7ExZxX46Nl4XvAH_nft9FzaJaOMwO_Y1LVuVipK5pBd2.ZtCgF4pjOCjEj9sx_b3QYQ8meYlr_MM._x_ne7Lv8A7PMy1EqcprPxhe3cJb5lfmN30maZQrc4ouQ-- X-Received: from [72.70.239.123] by web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:15:03 PST Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:15:03 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk In-Reply-To: <1203179696.1435.44193.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <53215.4669.qm@web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.58 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: UPDATE: Amusement park wins approval for indoor roller coaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=7mr9XryfeWwVla7gvN3batQ3eSobT5VnRbxrYfd1wyb28y3hmfIq X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But I wish it were a Ferris wheel or other family ride. Six Flags still hasn't shaken its big-ugly-metal-building phase yet, nor its teen-thrill-ride phase. :-( Jay --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From leekara26@yahoo.com Sun Feb 17 07:24:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: leekara26@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 71257 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2008 15:24:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2008 15:24:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n50c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.184) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2008 15:24:44 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n50.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2008 15:24:44 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2008 15:24:44 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.73] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2008 15:24:44 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:24:42 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.184 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 218.89.4.21 From: "leekara26" Subject: Get herpes or HPV? See who have STD in your area. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=333920777; y=BkoXHQxGuZ4MMrdjQQJfWeIwXAVXMj2qs24oPN8sWXpOf-5Y X-Yahoo-Profile: leekara26 You just need to create a free anonymous personal ad. Then you will be=20 able to search people who have STD from all over the world. =20 You can contact STD people, if you want to chat, share stories, make=20 friends or find lifetime match. =20 If you are interested, please click the following link to create ad: http://stdlove.zu5.net/ From munkye1972@yahoo.com Sun Feb 17 08:03:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: munkye1972@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 83095 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2008 16:03:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2008 16:03:26 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n5.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.132) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2008 16:03:26 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n5.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2008 16:03:26 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2008 16:03:26 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.87] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2008 16:03:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:03:22 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.132 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:4:8:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.162.44.4 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: Get herpes or HPV? See who have STD in your area. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=124743306; y=HDnG_KDEmx2vFRO3YB69Uxk1pVnUNHnJQeZcJDdStvH5N0pIzA X-Yahoo-Profile: munkye1972 Wow. An echo.=20 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "leekara26" =20 wrote: > > You just need to create a free anonymous personal ad. Then you will=20 be=20 > able to search people who have STD from all over the world. >=20=20 > You can contact STD people, if you want to chat, share stories, make=20 > friends or find lifetime match. >=20=20 > If you are interested, please click the following link to create ad: > http://stdlove.zu5.net/ > From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 17 08:14:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55899 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2008 16:14:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2008 16:14:24 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n31c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.8) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2008 16:14:24 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by n31.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2008 16:14:21 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2008 16:14:21 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:14:21 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: Get herpes or HPV? See who have STD in your area. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=2pbBGtsBsGi0xEKdUJzv2R_cqxzjjzUYBAzFuefekxaRAoM X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 This seams to be a new tactic of "theirs". Join, wait a week, then hit us with crap. -Alan --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" wrote: > > Wow. An echo.=20 >=20 > --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "leekara26" =20 > wrote: > > > > You just need to create a free anonymous personal ad. Then you will=20 > be=20 > > able to search people who have STD from all over the world. > >=20=20 > > You can contact STD people, if you want to chat, share stories, make=20 > > friends or find lifetime match. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 17 08:22:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 67165 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2008 16:22:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2008 16:22:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.46) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2008 16:22:45 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n17.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2008 16:22:45 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2008 16:22:45 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:22:45 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.46 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Appu Ghar closes down X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=KopgYJRbKUvA8ESFDdRjDO5E1_k-6tnZszPXxXeN8SxOYFQ X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 17 Feb 2008 The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Delhi/Appu_Ghar_the_family_entertainer_c= loses_down/articleshow/2789955.cms NEW DELHI, INDIA -- The next time you tell anyone about 'Appu Ghar', it will be in past tense. The popular amusement park in the Capital, which was the first of its kind in the country, closed down this evening after having entertained children and adults alike for 24 years. Curtains came down on the "family entertainer" as a large number of regulars came to Appu Ghar, drawn by nostalgia, to say their final goodbye. Some even hoped that a miracle would stop it from going away. The closure of the amusement park, the first 'Desi' version of Disneyland, was brought on by expiry of the land lease between the International Trade Promotion Organisation (ITPO) and the International Amusement Limited in 1999. The park area will now be used for extending the Supreme Court premises and some part of it has been allotted to Delhi Metro. There was a palpable sense of dejection among the visitors to the park. "I feel let down. I have been a regular in this place since childhood. As I have enjoyed coming to this place so much, I am sad that my future generations will not be able to enjoy the same," said Aparna Banerji, a media consultant. The closure of Appu Ghar held a different meaning for Sonia Sharma, a schoolteacher. "If my parents were happy with my performance in school, they would bring me here. All my childhood memories are attached with the place. I hope some miracle happens and it remains here," she said as she started off for her last ride on 'My Fair Lady'. ------------ Copyright =A9 2008 Times Internet Limited From josh.wozny@gmail.com Sun Feb 17 11:26:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: josh.wozny@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 68626 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2008 19:26:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Feb 2008 19:26:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.180) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2008 19:26:11 -0000 X-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id d32so2212203pye.12 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:26:10 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.182.11 with SMTP id j11mr3322252qbp.50.1203276369581; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:26:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.65.135.14 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:26:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <76e1ec0a0802171126k757f730ejf85628e8ffec050c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:26:09 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Originating-IP: 64.233.166.180 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Josh W" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] NEWS: Disneyland's Big Thunder Mountain goat missing X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=322165273; y=UAw7bS4WOL7q-V9ktdFReC0SIaGLq864kcGRW2SWdG66VPRyDA X-Yahoo-Profile: josh.wozny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, that's not very "family friendly". :-D I kid, I kid... Josh On Feb 16, 2008 10:38 AM, Alan wrote: > expected > to wander back to his *exposed butte *in the next few weeks > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Sun Feb 17 17:18:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 29275 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 01:18:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2008 01:18:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53106.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.56) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 01:18:56 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 32049 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2008 01:18:55 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: i15gLvQVM1lycjC3wbEGthHzj7KesRytKGcvz7KuUQbm4thVO6awRywlOnNNL1Kyj5xXxqIrYSQ.UgvBWUnw1TOpTJ8gbmIR.L4C_kjL.bQkMh4slWOq X-Received: from [72.70.239.123] by web53106.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:18:55 PST Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:18:55 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <722518.31646.qm@web53106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.56 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: MISC: Human nature X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=-a0h9blfSZveQPH-3FWNFyXp-HsF-MpfNmeM-bya1hPVb_wBalRK X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "You don't really understand human nature unless you know why a child on a merry-go-round will wave at his parents every time around -- and why his parents will always wave back." --- William D. 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 06:39:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 84402 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 14:39:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2008 14:39:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n49a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.143) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 14:39:35 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n49.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 14:39:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 14:39:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 14:39:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:39:35 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.143 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Lotte World Hotel Gangnam opens Character Rooms X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=FJ79bfOJxnP75is6Ma8U2pICYQ8kO_KvragtE-CEAGAJw-k X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 18 February 2008 Asia Travel Tips http://www.asiatraveltips.com/news08/182-LotteHotel.shtml SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA -- WorldHotels Deluxe Collection member Lotte Hotel World Gangnam has launched fairytale rooms themed after characters at the neighboring Lotte World theme park (LW). In the newly renovated hotel, 30 new rooms incorporate designs featuring LW's most popular characters, Lotty and Lorry. The rooms occupying the 7th & 8th floors target families with children, and also include PlayStations, along with LW character cups, toothbrush and toothpaste sets. Rates are KRW 420,000 for Character Twin and Family Twin rooms, and KRW 550,000 for Character Suites. LW is one of the largest indoor amusement parks in the world, linked by monorail to Lotte Hotel World Gangnam, shopping malls, sports facilities, cinemas and a Korean folk museum. LW is newly revitalised following a KRW 65 billion renovation introducing "Lotte World Season 2" with new family-friendly attractions and entertainment including a musical, Finding the Golden Pyramid, The Galactic Odyssey laser-multimedia show, interactive shooting game and a 3D horror theater. Kim Seung-Hwan, Executive Director, who led the LW Renewal Task Force, said, "2 years before its 20th anniversary, LW has been reborn as a funnier and more pleasant theme park - a true place for family entertainment." In the heart of the city's newest commercial precinct "Gangnam-Songpa," Lotte Hotel World Gangnam is a state-of-the-art hotel that features comprehensive business, entertainment and shopping - all under one roof. It is one block from COEX and the indoor theme park. The hotel has a total of 469 guest rooms spread over 32 floors with 2 ballrooms and 7 meeting rooms. ------------ =A9 Copyright 1998 - 2008 - ASIA Travel Tips.com From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 06:49:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18796 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 14:49:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2008 14:49:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n52a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.146) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 14:49:45 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n52.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 14:49:45 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 14:49:45 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 14:49:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:49:43 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.146 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Teacher integrates amusement into math X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=zq16nu0UcuX6VpaB6ZvMzTad-p8lH37twSqwWVfMViW0N00 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 17, 2008 The Meadville Tribune http://www.meadvilletribune.com/local/local_story_048180917.html By Penni Schaefer MEADVILLE, PA -- "One day it occurred to me just how appealing amusement parks are to kids," said Michael Cain, stirring sugar into his coffee mug. "And so I got the idea that maybe by incorporating that kind of atmosphere into a math book, it might be possible to break down the schism of math and give teachers fun, real-world applications to use in the classroom." Cain's 7th and most recent book, "Amusement Park Math," does exactly that. The book begins with a group of out-of-work carnival workers who begin their search for a new venue in which to perform. Their truck runs out of gas and they are met by a local farmer who offers them a place to stay in exchange for helping him on his farm. The cast of characters, which includes General Thumb and Zambul the Strongman, soon learns that the local amusement park is in dire financial straits. Through an interesting storyline, Cain, a math teacher at Meadville Area Senior High School, designed the book to build students' problem-solving skills and diminish their math fears. "The much-maligned `story problem' often causes students to become anxious," Cain said. "This book works to get rid of math's `bad rap' by engaging students from the very beginning and then continually builds on the success that they achieved throughout." In addition to writing "Amusement Park Math," Cain, an accomplished artist, illustrated it. His artwork loosely incorporates many of the amusement park rides and buildings of Conneaut Lake Park, all of which he recalls from his own childhood. "I grew up in Pittsburgh, but I remember coming to the park with my parents," he said. "So it was easy to merge the fun and familiar experiences that I had as a child with math." In addition to the physical aspects of the park, Cain decided to incorporate the recent financial plight of the park into the storyline. In the section that deals with addition, for example, Cain develops students' math skills by using commonly understood concepts such as income and expenses. "Through story problems, students calculate how much money a group of carnival workers earned in 1 week at Modest Lake Amusement Park by adding up their daily wages over a 7-day period," Cain said. The characters become interconnected throughout the book. Children solve a variety of math problems relative to bankers, farmers, clowns and even human cannonballs at Modest Lake. The book also reveals that, as in real life, characters sometimes have varied and even competing personal interests. And like Conneaut Lake, Cain's make-believe park faces many financial challenges, including a host of renovations needed before it can reopen. Students are asked to round costs and then list them from least to greatest. In Cain's book, published by Prufrock, the community of characters works together to find resolutions to the park's problems. This, unfortunately, may be what separates make-believe Modest Lake from the reality of Conneaut Lake Park. "My book about Modest Lake is based on a perfect world in which everyone works together to build something that honors the past and embraces the future," he said. "In doing so, it ends up being a win-win situation for all." ----------- =A9 2005, The Meadville Tribune From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 06:56:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 88492 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 14:56:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2008 14:56:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.128) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 14:56:34 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 14:56:34 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 14:56:34 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 14:56:34 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:56:32 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.128 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Roller coaster coming to Kochville Township X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=89H2xqHCdQh-1zv6wIMXAznBvqjVBHHFeeS_7ZyLTd3P5s4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 18, 2008 The Saginaw News Michigan Live http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2008/02/roller_coaster_coming_to_ko= chv.html by Andy Hoag SAGINAW, MI -- The Serpent is coming to Saginaw County. Kokomo's Family Fun Center, 520 Kokomo off Tittabawassee in Kochville Township, is adding the 45'-high "Serpent" roller coaster. Its track will measure 1,919'-long. The coaster will cost the company about $250,000, said owner Hal Shilling, much of the expense coming from sandblasting and painting that Kokomos workers are performing. "Brand new, this would run for about $1 million, so we're getting a good deal," he said. Shilling estimated that workers have placed about 65 jack stands -- supports for the track -- in the ground thus far, and that the structure so far is 30'-high. It is west of Kokomos' golf dome and north of the batting cages. He is aiming for a May or June opening for the nearly 2-minute ride. The ride features 2 cars per train. Riders are arranged 2 across in 2 rows, for a total of 8 riders per train. The coaster is slightly shorter than and half the height of Cedar Point's Blue Streak. The Zyklon, at the Saginaw County Fairgrounds at 11350 Peet in Chesaning, stands 60'-tall. The Roller Coaster Database shows the Serpent opened in 1987 at a Paducah, KY, amusement park under the name "Galaxy" before owners at an Ohio park bought it and gave it its present moniker. The Ohio park, LeSourdsville Lake Amusement Park in the city of Middletown, closed 5 years ago, Shilling said. The Serpent sat idle there until October, when it took Kokomo's crews 2 weeks to tear it down and 7 tractor-trailer truckloads to bring it here. Shilling said he likely will charge customers $6 to ride. He plans to include the ride as part of the Kokomo's attraction wristband next year. ------------------ =A9 2008 Michigan Live LLC. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 07:02:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 80259 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 15:02:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2008 15:02:43 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.176) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 15:02:43 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 15:02:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 15:02:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 15:02:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:02:40 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.176 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: RUMOR: Ripley's amusement park at Bangalore by April X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=EfVuGsk27AMb5nnJBEwSXzQQHgSZ7cG3sU79rY19ScVGk4g X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 17, 2008 Deccan Herald http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Feb172008/city2008021752813.asp?section= =3Dupdatenews BANGLORE, KARNATAKA, INDIA -- Ripley Entertainment Inc. along with Prasad Labs (PL) will set up an amusement park at Bangalore on a franchisee basis with an investment of USD 4 million. "We are setting up a joint venture with PL for an amusement park at Bangalore, which includes Ripley's Incredible Maze and Believe It or Not Museum, Luis Tussaud's Wax Works (similar to Madame Tussaud's museum) and Guinness World Record Museum," Chairman of Ripley Entertainment Inc, Bob Masterson, said here. The museum would be spread over 12,000 sq-ft near Bangalore and would open in April this year. "We have made an investment of over USD 1 million and our joint venture partner PL is pumping in USD 3 million to develop this park," Masterson added. The Rs 4,000 crore Indian amusement and leisure industry is expecting fresh investments of Rs 10,000 crore by FY'20 with 500 new amusement parks coming up during that period. "In India, major developments will be seen in next 5 years when many international parks will come via franchise or direct investment," Indian Association of Amusement Parks and Industries (IAAPI) President VGP Ravidas said. Disney is also evaluating India for its theme parks, Ravidas said adding "the investments would be high. To set one Universal Studio (similar to Orlando in USA), the investment required is around USD 1 billion, Ravidas said. The Amusement industry, is estimated to grow by 10-12% per annum till FY'10, Ravidas added. IAAPI has asked the government to reduce entertainment tax and confer industry status to the amusement industry, making it a part of the tourism department, Ravidas said. -------------- Copyright 2007, The Printers (Mysore) Private Ltd. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 07:10:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 1989 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 15:10:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2008 15:10:40 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.102.103) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 15:10:40 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n20.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 15:10:37 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 15:10:37 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.201] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 15:10:36 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:10:35 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.102.103 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: HISTORY: Long Lost Portable Parker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=KU7YefKfuh8PppVe8D5JiYhLoXoAaXTZTWyq-H4pl1m2Fnk X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 17 February 2008 The Carousel News & Trader http://carouselnews.com/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&task=3Dview&id=3D275= &Itemid=3D66 By Leah Farnsworth TULSA, OK -- In March l983, the National Carousel Association published a 50-page census of the known carousels in the U.S. and Canada. Our members were asked to send photos and updates on the carousels that had been moved or broken up. I began an update on Wisconsin and Oklahoma. A friend in Oklahoma called me to ask if I knew about a large, beautiful carousel somewhere near Tulsa. When my husband Pete & I drove from Wisconsin to California for the fall 1984 convention, we made a side trip to Tulsa. We stopped at a gas station on the edge of town and received directions to Bell's Amusement Park. When we arrived, the park was closed for the season, but the rides had not been taken down. They allowed us a lot of time to meet with the carousel's owner, Jack Johnson, and to photograph his rare and beautiful carousel. Jack explained that this was the first portable carousel with 4 rows of jumping horses that was made by C.W. Parker. It was built in Leavenworth, KS, in l917. It was also the last known of this type to still be operating. Jack's father, the late James E. Johnson, had purchased this carousel in l940 for Playland Park in San Antonio, TX. After his death and the park closing in l980, Jack moved it to Tulsa in l981. Only the roller coaster remained at Playland. Jack just happend to be at the park because the carousel was going to be moved back to San Antonio when they finished taking it down. While photographing, we noticed that 2 of the outside row positions were filled with a fiberglass bull, and an English C.J. Spooner double-seater horse. The outside row of small stationary horses in front of the bench seat, (where parents can sit and watch their youngest riders), had been replaced with a small elephant which did not have a pole to hold on to. Many rows of horses carried a theme, from the largest to the smallest, and were all painted to match.=20 Other rows had the fancy outside row horse in the 2nd row. The outside row horses were the largest Parkers I had ever seen. Most of the 2nd row figures were more elaborate than the outer rows on other Parker carousels. The carousel was clean and the horses and trim were well painted. Several of these photos are in the Parker section, the time line, and the carousel directory sections of Painted Ponies by Bill Manns, Peggy Shank and Marianne Stevens. Since a new location to set up the carousel had not been found, it remained in storage until 1988. With carousel prices rising, and nowhere to operate, this beautiful merry-go-round was offered for sale at auction. On Feb. 13, 1988, in San Antonio, TX, the 52 horses, scenery, and mechanism were offered individually, then as a whole carousel. The carousel could not lure a bid to match the individual figures and the rare 4-row portable machine was broken up. Then 2 other groups of=20 Parkers were sold individually. 24 horses were from a 2-row carousel, which had operated at Joyland Amusement Park in Lubbock, TX. 28 horses came from the Wonderland Amusement Park in Amarillo, TX. Each of the parks had replaced their old horses with new fiberglass horses from Chance Manufacturing Company.=20=20 104 C.W. Parker horses went to new homes that day. ------------ =A9 2008 Carousel News and Trader Magazine From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 07:20:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61444 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 15:20:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2008 15:20:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n22a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.51) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 15:20:33 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by n22.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 15:20:33 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 15:20:33 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:20:30 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.51 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: WB to Build $4 Bil. Theme Park in Korea X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=phCa3L8N6oxeGK1FloUTDlpAulSEHvLAYfhDduNNRAgW1_Q X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb. 15, 2008 The Chosun Ilbo http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200802/200802150008.html MISARI, HANAMSI, GYEONGGI-DO, SOUTH KOREA -- Warner Bros. (WB), a major American movie studio, has decided to invest US$4 billion to build a theme park in the Misari area of Hanam, Gyeonggi Province, a key member of the presidential Transition Committee said on Thursday. This committee member said that WB chairman Barry M. Meyer and executive VP John Schulman are expected to attend the inauguration ceremony of president-elect Lee Myung-bak on Feb. 25. The executives are visiting Seoul to sign a letter of intent to build the WB Theme Park on a 3.63 million sq.m lot in Misari, the committee member said. They are expected to sign the letter of intent for a $4 billion investment around Feb. 26 or 27 after consulting with the Gyeonggi provincial government, the Ministry of Construction and Transportation, and the Ministry of Culture and Tourism. WB joins several other developers with plans to build theme parks in locations around the Seoul metropolitan area over the next few years. Universal Studios, another major American movie company, signed a memorandum of understanding late last year to build a giant theme park in Hwaseong, Gyeonggi Province for W2.9 trillion (US$1=3DW945) by 2012. Paramount Pictures signed a contract to build a movie theme park in Songdo International City in Incheon with a view to opening in 2010. When president-elect Lee was mayor of Seoul, the Walt Disney Co. looked into building an amusement park on the site of Seoul Land or Seoul Grand Park in Gwacheon, Gyeonggi Province. That plan is still pending due to a legal battle over the land lease. ------------------ Copyright (c) 2007 The Chosun Ilbo & Digital Chosun Ilbo From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 07:26:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 55871 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 15:26:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2008 15:26:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.136) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 15:26:46 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 15:26:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 15:26:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 15:26:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:26:45 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.136 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: RUMOR: Ocean Park to invest Rs 25 crore in Vizag X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=5LOyisczPcOg5WkpAKs3G_uSJa9sl0DcKh2wP38hYpwaOjU X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 13, 2008 Business Standard http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?leftnm=3Dlmnu1&sub= Left=3D1&autono=3D313491&tab=3Dr VIASKHAPATNAM, ANDHRA PRADESH, INDIA -- Hyderabad-based the Ocean Park Group (OP) is investing Rs 25 crore in its projects coming up at Visakhapatnam. =20 The Rs 1,000-crore group is setting up a film studio on 63 acre and an amusement park, including sea sports, on 15 acres besides a 100-room hotel to accommodate film personalities at Jeerupalem, about 70 km from Visakhapatnam. "We have acquired 150 acres of land at Jeerupalem to set up a studio and an amusement park. The group is investing Rs 25 crore in these 2 projects excluding the land cost," Jupudi Lakshmi Narayana, executive director, OP Multitech Limited, told the media here on Tuesday. =20 The 2 projects would be ready in a year. This apart, OP is developing beach farm houses and farm plots on 73 acres. =20 In the 2nd phase, the group is planning to develop a golf city on 150 acre at the Denkada village near Bhogapuram, he said. ------------- Copyright 2008 Business Standard Ltd. From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 09:42:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 41347 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 17:42:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2008 17:42:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n11.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.138) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 17:42:51 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n11.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 17:42:51 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 17:42:51 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.76] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 17:42:51 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:42:50 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.138 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 72.70.239.123 From: "jay_ducharme" Subject: TECH: Well Rounded Competition X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=0uxwg9VzW_NPDBM6f0VUjfDatLXz2peWi5PvdXavvtvGxutrQuxH X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Popular Mechanics' current issue has an article about modern Ferris wheels, the largest of which is currently under construction in China. I've posted the article here: Jay From munkye1972@yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 11:13:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: munkye1972@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 28221 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 19:13:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2008 19:13:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n45a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.139) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 19:13:11 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n45.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 19:13:11 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 19:13:11 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2008 19:13:11 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:13:11 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.139 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.162.44.4 From: "Chris" Subject: Re: TECH: Well Rounded Competition X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=124743306; y=tKs1hRKWtpZqsyY0xB9ivkwksOmYGoLTt8XQGxNKTRF_4afnvQ X-Yahoo-Profile: munkye1972 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "jay_ducharme"=20 wrote: > > Popular Mechanics' current issue has an article about modern Ferris > wheels, the largest of which is currently under construction in China. > I've posted the article here: >=20 > >=20 > Jay > That was briefly a front page article on Yahoo! as well, Jay.=20 Chris From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 12:56:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 13545 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 20:56:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Feb 2008 20:56:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53102.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.52) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 20:56:19 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 95906 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2008 20:56:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: XbKAPiwVM1mE1jdsq7o46M7RpoqczAxpV1Fxw5kn2E2IkmJ830kOh8914woS.Ny_FLz0WnhWtSOq4QnITSd4bcrKIQanTBmZOCdYqwf4kEy.yDdt9QY- X-Received: from [72.70.239.123] by web53102.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:56:18 PST Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:56:18 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <739357.74139.qm@web53102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.52 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: MISC: Another carousel goes on the block X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=cX6HC-Bo0QzrjmusUDFDF6ln6dIJspRk60DsApsbhl_fsbA4_Rrp X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After 93 years of ownership, the Wintersteens (of Florida) are handing over their Looff/Mangels carousel to Norton. Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 19 07:21:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 44473 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 15:21:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2008 15:21:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n19b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.131) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 15:21:53 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n19.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:21:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:21:53 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.92] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:21:53 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:21:52 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.131 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Sega, Emaar Malls sign theme park agreement X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=o6xXtxlGVZ0xuqlWTb9VgD-_kz__VAiT6SRTeFSLg8VZb1k X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 19th February 2008 InterGame http://www.intergameonline.com/intergame/news/870/sega-emaar-malls-sign-the= me-park-agreement/ By Helen Fletcher DUBAI, UAE -- Video game manufacturer Sega and properties firm Emaar Malls Group have started development plans to open a number of indoor theme park across the Middle East and North Africa. The venues will be branded up as Sega Joypolis and will include indoor roller coasters, mid-scale attractions and various amusement machines. The first venue will be located in the Dubai Mall and is on track to open at the end of the year. -------------- =A9 2008 InterGame Ltd. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 19 07:26:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 61900 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 15:26:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2008 15:26:50 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n11b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.107) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 15:26:50 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n11.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:26:50 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:26:50 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:26:50 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:26:48 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.64.107 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Developer Awaiting Permits For Ohio County Theme Park X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=qxpCeUSZWmsMXNUBC1sUHn0bx9A55l60hXoxBDE3zSXmeqI X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 18, 2008 WTOV-9 http://www.wtov9.com/news/15334896/detail.html By Renee Cardelli & Jasmine Lo TRIADELPHIA, WV -- Officials said permits for an Ohio County theme park could be here any day. Steve Minard, project developer for the Wild Escape Theme Park, said he is awaiting public comments that the Army Corps is currently gathering. The comment period ended on Feb. 1, but Minard said the corps is likely accepting responses sent in after that date. The corps will let the developer and the county know of any issues that agencies like the EPA and the Fish and Wildlife Service may have with the mitigation plans. The plans show how the developer will reduce the impact on the environment. Minard said they have also submitted detailed mitigation plans to the corps, which is separate from the plans about which the corps is currently collecting comments. He said completing those detailed plans is a good sign of the project's progress. "It's a much higher level of detail. It's almost like the architect's work for a building," he said. ------------ Copyright 2008 by wtov9 From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 19 07:37:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 2723 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 15:37:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2008 15:37:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.246) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 15:37:46 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n20.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:37:43 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.79] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:37:43 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:37:43 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.246 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: 3-Y.O.'s Fatal Death Train Ride Was 'Murder' X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=-5FQuFPuG3SQGS4qWf6tr2nr02t8QsYIIB_Zj_eG4jOgxsg X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 17, 2008 Arab News http://www.arabnews.com/?page=3D1§ion=3D0&article=3D106908&d=3D18&m=3D2= &y=3D2008&pix=3Dkingdom.jpg&category=3DKingdom By Lulwa Shalhoub JEDDAH, SAUDI ARABIA -=97 For little Abdullah, a ride on the "Death Train" at the Atallah Theme Park on Tuesday proved to be just that. The 3-y.o. got electrocuted and died instantaneously when his seatbelt got inadvertently unbuckled and he fell off the train. A crowd of hundreds watched helplessly as the train chugged back to run over Abdullah, who was electrocuted as soon as he fell on the tracks. "It was nothing short of premeditated murder," alleged Faisal Al-Marwani, Abdullah's uncle. Among others, he claimed that the ride was not authorized by the Civil Defense Department, according to a report, he said, the theme park received from the department a day before the accident. Al-Marwani promised to produce a copy of the same to Arab News. But that's not all. Al-Marwani wondered why Abdullah, who was just 3, was allowed on the ride that clearly mentioned it was not suitable for children under 5. "No one asked his aunt or his mother, who were accompanying Abdullah, about the child's age," Al-Marwani said. "As long as the theme park's visitors pay for the rides, the officials are only too happy to let children play wherever they want =97 without checking safety procedures or ensuring that children are following recommended age and height limits. Are human lives that cheap for them?" Al-Marwani, who rushed to the site after the incident and accompanied Abdullah in the ambulance to the hospital, said he was also shocked by the theme park's apparent apathy to the incident. Forget any consolation, Al-Marwani said, theme park officials had not even bothered to apologize for the incident. According to Al-Marwani, the only call the family received after Abdullah's death was from a representative of the theme park, who blamed the child for unfastening his belt that led to his demise. Al-Marwani questioned how the official could say so with conviction considering he was not present on the spot as Tuesday is a women-only day. Apparently, those who visited the theme park the day subsequent to the accident said all rides were operating as usual except for the "Death Train". "This is very insensitive of the theme park. How could they welcome visitors, mostly children, before fully investigating the reason behind the accident?" asked Ola Walid, 24. "It is a shame that concerned authorities took the whole thing so lightly and did not respond to the accident in a proper way," added Samia Hassan, a 43-y.o. mother. Al-Marwani said that, after his nephew's death, he had now taken it upon himself to see that other children did not lose their lives due to the negligence of officials at theme parks. "We will not take this lightly," Al-Marwani said, adding that theme parks here should take a leaf out of their counterparts abroad, who are very strict when it comes to ensuring children's safety. "They are inflexible with the age limit of people who go on rides. Also, electronic belts cannot be unfastened except by the ride's supervisor." At the time of going to press, Arab News had not received any response from the Jeddah police stating how the investigation was progressing. ------------- Copyright: Arab News =A9 2003 From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 19 07:46:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 75908 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 15:46:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2008 15:46:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n24b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.235) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 15:46:30 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n24.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:46:30 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:46:30 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.201] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:46:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:46:30 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.235 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: PR: NextSport to Partner with Six Flags X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=hB8l5CmBFeC5wJ-M9VmHz2gQypQUgkE2r67r0S6f08vzhbE X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 17, 2008 Business Wire http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=3Dnews_v= iew&newsId=3D20080217005041&newsLang=3Den EMERYVILLE, CA -- NextSport (NS), the creator and manufacturer of the popular line of Fuzion performance scooters, announced today, that it has entered into a multi-year partnership with Six Flags Theme Parks (6F) to create in-park Fuzion Scooter Riding Zones with the first Fuzion Zone to be unveiled in Spring 2008 at 6F Discovery Kingdom in Vallejo, CAa. "As all things related to board sports continue to gain popularity, a partnership with 6F is a natural fit to create an engaging consumer experience with our young brand as we share the same consumer audience that seeks a safe, yet exhilarating experience," commented Ed Dua, President of NS. "The Fuzion Scooter Riding Zones will introduce a large audience of kids all over the country to the great new ride of the Fuzion performance scooter." The Fuzion Zones will provide 6F's park guests the exciting opportunity to ride a Fuzion scooter in a custom designed and fully supervised Fuzion skate park. The Fuzion skate park will feature basic riding zones and a variety of different ramp and jump configurations to accommodate all levels of riders. Park guests will be trained and supervised by Fuzion trained park staff and a team of Fuzion riders to help facilitate a safe and fun experience for everyone. Additionally, Fuzion Zone participants and observers alike will have the opportunity to watch members of the national Fuzion Pro Team demonstrate their skills during Fuzion exhibitions, followed by meet and greet sessions and autograph signings. And, eager and aspiring Fuzion Zone riders will be given the unique opportunity to win prizes and sign up to be a member of Team Fuzion. "The creation of the onsite Fuzion Zone is another example of the powerful experiential marketing offerings available in our parks," said David McKillips, VP of Corporate Alliances for 6F. "This partnership allows Fuzion to market its product directly to our guests and get invaluable 1-on-1 face time with their key customers." 6F will utilize their in-park signage programs, print and online promotions and radio and TV advertisements to showcase the park's Fuzion Zones. About NS Inc. Founded in 2004, NS designs, develops, and manufactures innovative action sports products. The company's flagship product line, the Fuzion performance scooter is sold in a wide range of sporting good, specialty and mass retailers. NS is a privately owned company based in Emeryville, CA. For more information about NS Inc. and Fuzion scooters please visit www.nextsport.com. -------------- =A92008 Business Wire From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 19 07:54:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 36719 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 15:54:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2008 15:54:16 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.176) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 15:54:16 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:54:16 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:54:16 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.195] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2008 15:54:16 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:54:14 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.176 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: RUMOR: $1.3 bln theme park for Vung Tau X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=gatz0CuSY9kT885laLta1Rq7deHoM5ieHIeH-LtkdJ-eg9I X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 16, 2008 Thanh Nien News http://www.thanhniennews.com/business/?catid=3D2&newsid=3D35773 by Duc Lien BA' RIA, VUNG TA'U PROVINCE, VIETNAM. -- The administration of Ba Ria, Vung Tau Province Friday granted an investment license to the Good Choice USA Vietnam Co. Ltd., for a US$1.3 billion-theme park - Vietnam's largest tourism and entertainment project. The Vung Tau Wonderful Theme Park will cover 155 hectares in Vung Tau Town. The park will include a 5-star hotel with 2,500 rooms, four luxury hotels, an international conference center, shopping malls, 3D cinemas and open-air stages. It is due for completion by 2010. On the same day, 7 local and foreign investors received licenses for projects worth $200 million. ------------ Copyright 2008 Thanh Nien Daily From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Tue Feb 19 15:30:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 37799 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 23:30:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2008 23:30:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.55) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 23:30:03 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 96499 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Feb 2008 23:30:03 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: fjj82ukVM1mQ_HFleoB_Rrbqw.0VipFJsscEiI574FjTHP5J4f_j3RI4psgXBTT5bjgOZllBOPQjh2JDZV4QEavou5JC1A2cB.PzM8YVEmCZ_JOlbebDVaxh4icGLdilWIlyGRaDz48sBQ-- X-Received: from [72.70.239.123] by web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:30:02 PST Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:30:02 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1203460984.2324.21019.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <938332.96172.qm@web53105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.55 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: PR: NextSport to Partner with Six Flags X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=WLkepQkwmktc2cTNFP9pNGe8NYuQv1KIiDQXYLgY-kHMckN6e397 X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The Fuzion skate park will feature basic riding zones and a variety of different ramp and jump configurations < *sigh* Shapiro just doesn't get it, does he? I can't see families of all ages lining up to sample skate parks (and probably for an up-charge). > Additionally, Fuzion Zone participants and observers alike will have the opportunity to watch members of the national Fuzion Pro Team demonstrate their skills during Fuzion exhibitions, followed by meet and greet sessions and autograph signings. < Are there any Tony Hawks of Fuzion scooters? I hadn't heard of the company till now. Why would I want an autograph from someone so obscure? Is there really that much momentum for this thing? It looks like either a poor man's Trikke or a skateboard with training wheels. (I have a Trikke which I ride regularly, BTW, and -- shameless plug -- it's a blast!) Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bethtoons@gmail.com Tue Feb 19 16:51:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: bethtoons@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 24986 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2008 00:51:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2008 00:51:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO wf-out-1314.google.com) (209.85.200.172) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 00:51:46 -0000 X-Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so755607wfc.30 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:51:46 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr5961465wfb.60.1203468706221; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:51:46 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.150.191.12 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:51:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <74b0c9f30802191651w48bd4272w5f5500521c8d7786@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:51:46 -0500 To: RCT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Originating-IP: 209.85.200.172 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Beth Aslakson" Subject: news: Indiana Beach sold X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=189987440; y=YdE8Dw6Ebp_OQhUB1ax90gw0pwYbuB7bmcPcteI_SH0rwQ2e X-Yahoo-Profile: bethtoons http://www.thehj.com/main.asp?SectionID=9&SubSectionID=32&ArticleID=22881 Group purchases Indiana Beach For additional information, see tomorrow's Herald Journal Trent Wright Editor QUEENSBURY, New York - Morgan RV Resorts today announced the acquisition of Indiana Beach Amusement Resort in Monticello. The purchase includes the northwest Indiana resort's entire operations including the Indiana Beach Boardwalk and Funway amusement park and water park, Indiana Beach Camp Resort, Yogi Bear's Jellystone Park Camp-Resort at Indiana Beach, The Beach House Inn hotel and motel, Lakeview Penthouse Suites, cottages at The Beach Club Resort and Hoosier Pointe, the Shafer Queen paddle wheel boat, The Fun Zone, a lakefront sandy beach, the Skyroom Restaurant and multiple dining and retail operations. The resort complex will open for the 2008 season on May 3. Numerous improvements are planned for Indiana Beach Amusement Resort including the addition of the amusement park's sixth roller coaster, Steel Hawg. The new steel roller coaster, Indiana's first custom steel coaster, features multiple flips and inversions as well as a 120-degree first drop. Steel Hawg will be in great company, joining five other roller coasters at the park including the "Grandfather" of Indiana roller coasters, The Hoosier Hurricane. Also new for 2008 will be an extended operating season providing guests with more opportunities to enjoy the park's exciting rides. Morgan RV Resorts is the country's largest private owner and operator of RV parks and resorts. The company's collection of regional destination resorts provides clean, fun, affordable family vacation getaways offering multiple accommodation options, activities and events for all ages, playgrounds, swimming pools and entertainment. "We are thrilled to be welcoming this historic Indiana family destination to the Morgan RV Resorts family," said Bob Moser, co-owner of Morgan RV Resorts. "Superb hospitality and exiting destinations are hallmarks of every Morgan resort. Guests of Indiana Beach will continue to take pleasure in the quality experience they have come to love over the past eight decades and enjoy an ongoing commitment to improving the destination year after year." "This is an exciting time for Indiana Beach," said Tom Spackman Jr., grandson of park found, Earl Spackman. "With the recent upgrades to many of our accommodations, the forthcoming arrival of Steel Hawg and now the purchase by family-owned Morgan RV Resorts the future is brighter than ever. In the years to come, Indiana Beach is certain to remain the home for all the fun things you love to do." Guests can learn more about Morgan RV Resorts by visiting www.morganrvresorts.com and stay up to date on the latest happenings at Indiana Beach Amusement Resort at www.indianabeach.com. For more on this story, read tomorrow's Herald Journal. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Wed Feb 20 07:07:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 40908 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2008 15:07:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2008 15:07:31 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n41b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.155) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 15:07:31 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n41.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2008 15:07:31 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2008 15:07:31 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2008 15:07:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:07:31 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.155 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: PR: Disneyland Paris promotes new ride online X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=sJaDiGd4L9aIKAYYh10UyX1-7lea_VEwdK9umPwrSvI-qow X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 18.02.08 New Media Age http://www.nma.co.uk/Articles/36908/Disneyland+Paris+promotes+new+ride+onli= ne.html MARNE LA VALLE'E, ILE-DE-FRANCE, FR -- Disneyland Resort Paris (DLP) has launched a campaign site to promote the launch of its new ride, The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror. Part of a through-the-line campaign for the April launch of the ride, www.disneytowerofterror.com allows users to upload photos that can then be manipulated to make them look like the subject has travelled to the 4th dimension. The site is supported by DLP's first viral campaign, as well as an online ad campaign. Federico Gonzalez, senior VP of marketing for DLP, said, "We know from experience in the US that Twilight Zone Tower of Terror appeals to older children, so we've designed this campaign to engage with 13-15-y.o's through media platforms that they engage with." The campaign is part of the resort's 15th anniversary celebrations. ------------ Copyright Centaur Media plc From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Feb 21 08:09:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 5421 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 16:09:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2008 16:09:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n13.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.140) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 16:09:07 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n13.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 16:09:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 16:09:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 16:09:06 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:09:06 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.140 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: $750M theme-park bonding bill moves ahead X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=4A-LVsFaglcKBqSvEEk3b48cz-SH1fODjhVT4YGoMeq6aps X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb. 20, 2008 The Arizona Republic http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0220biz-themepark0221-ON.html By Ronald J. Hansen ELOY, AZ -- Despite concerns about seemingly endless tax breaks for a proposed rock and roll theme park in Pinal County, legislation intended to help finance the project cleared its first hurdle Wednesday. A bill to create a special district in Eloy that would enable backers of the Decades Music Theme Park to access up to $750 million in revenue bonds passed 5-2 in the Senate Commerce and Economic Development Committee. The district would repay the bonds using extra tax charges collected from park patrons, but the park's backers must first secure $100million of their own funding. Sen. Ken Cheuvront, D-Phoenix, was especially troubled that the bill seems to permanently exempt the park's owners from paying income and property taxes. The author of the bill, Sen. Thayer Verschoor, R-Gilbert, said that was not his intent and that he would be willing to rework the bill to clarify it. Still, "I've seen these projects come and go," Cheuvront said. "The precedent we're setting here is amazing. ... If this was a viable plan, they could go into the private markets and get financing." Sen. Pamela Gorman, R-Anthem, also rejected the suggestion that the Legislature could eventually correct inequities in the district. "I don't see the political fortitude to scrap this thing once it goes forward," she said. Sen. Barbara Leff, R-Paradise Valley and chair of the committee, shared some of the concerns, but suggested the bill could be clarified as it proceeds in the House or before a vote in the full Senate. ------------- Copyright =A9 2008, azcentral.com From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Feb 21 08:16:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 28393 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 16:16:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2008 16:16:11 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n50a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.144) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 16:16:11 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n50.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 16:16:11 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 16:16:11 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.48] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 16:16:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:16:09 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.144 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Work on '7 Wonders' theme park halted X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=aLTojpjIEhInBpErT7NXe0yKu5-WLA3gW3sfVa_Djk2vq5Y X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 02/21/08 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution http://www.ajc.com/services/content/business/stories/2008/02/20/dekresort_0= 221.html?cxtype=3Drss&cxsvc=3D7&cxcat=3D6 By Paul Donsky LITHONIA, GA -- A proposed "Seven Wonders of the World" (7WW) theme park, conference center and resort in south DeKalb County remains in limbo as developers continue to seek funding for the project. Meanwhile, the contractor preparing the site for construction has stopped work, claiming an outstanding bill of more than $6 million. David Miller, an attorney representing the 7WW's developers, disputed that figure and said the project, which first surfaced more than 2 years ago, remains on track. Miller said his clients, Atlanta-based Top Flight Development Group, have told him they are close to securing the next round of funding from a private investment group that would allow construction to begin. "They've been working on this for at least 6 months and are in the final stages," said Miller, speaking for Top Flight officials. Miller acknowledged that the contractor, Atlanta-based RACT Inc., may be owed some money, though he suggested it is far less than $6 million. The 1st phase of the project, Grand Empire Palace and Resort, is estimated to cost $675 million. RACT Inc. was hired to do grading work, erosion control and sewer work on the property, just north of I-20 in Lithonia. The company stopped work in December. The company's lawyer, Maureen McLeod, said she may soon file a lawsuit to recoup her client's money. The project, previously known as Grand Empire at Fun World, has had a troubled history. The developers ran into trouble in 2006 when, while operating as a different entity, they defaulted on a $6.3 million loan to purchase the initial site. The developers created a new company and refinanced. Plans for Grand Empire call for a 250,000-sq-ft amusement park, an indoor water park, hotel conference center, family arcade center, restaurants and shops. Developers say the project will have a theme based on the 7 Wonders of the Ancient World. Color sketches of what the project might look like were laid out on tables during a community meeting last fall, showing the indoor water park shaped like the Great Pyramid of Egypt and a theme park entrance shaped like a temple. Last September, developers announced plans to expand the project by purchasing an adjacent 65-acre tract, which they said would house a 9-hole golf course, retail shops, housing and an indoor theme park. The plans would require a zoning change. But it's not clear whether they've sought a rezoning. Top Flight's rezoning attorney, Michele Battle, declined to comment. ----------- Copyright=A9 2008 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Feb 21 08:25:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 94270 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 16:25:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2008 16:25:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n20d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.246) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 16:25:12 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n20.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 16:25:12 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.88] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 16:25:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:25:12 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.246 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE Report casts doubt on Pyramid plan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=Lo94iHC8qYMnQryMecX6t062BLhFZrKJv_9gMQIYglV72jc X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 21, 2008 Commercial Appeal http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/feb/21/report-casts-doubt-on-eric= son/ By David Williams MEMPHIS, TN -- The County Commission's economic development and tourism committee was told Wednesday that Memphian Greg Ericson's Pyramid theme-park plan is dogged by doubts about everything from his group's financial wherewithal to the slumping state of the theme-park industry. But having heard that report from city arena reuse manager Robert Lipscomb, commissioners decided to see for themselves. The county will perform its own study of the Ericson and Bass Pro Shops Pyramid proposals, including the economic impacts they offer. Also, Ericson and Bass Pro Shops will each be given an hour at an upcoming meeting for a presentation to commissioners. Commissioner Steve Mulroy, who has pushed for full consideration of the Ericson plan, said he'll be "astonished" if Bass Pro Shops officials show up. Officials of the Missouri-based outdoors retailer announced their store plan in February 2006 but have given few specifics since and have yet to commit to the project. A development agreement -- which requires city and county approval -- calls for another year of study and planning by the company. "We'll study the Ericson proposal side by side with the Bass Pro proposal," Mulroy said. "I personally think, from what I've seen so far, if you do that kind of fair, balanced study, everything seems to weigh in favor of the Ericson proposal. But I'll keep an open mind." Lipscomb, however, strongly pushed Bass Pro as the most viable option, citing reports from a national consultant and the work of the local committee formed in 2004 to study arena reuse. Lipscomb said Bass Pro Shops is a proven commodity whose financial wherewithal has been established. He cited a line of credit the company has with Bank of America and said Morgan Keegan and First Tennessee have financed Bass Pro Shops projects. "At the end of the day, it's about financial capabilities," he said. About the Ericson group, Lipscomb said, "Over the last 6 months we have tried over and over and over again to verify and validate the financial capability of these folks." He said the efforts ranged from credit checks to Google searches, adding, "We've called a number of banks and said, 'Can you give us some information on these folks, to see if they have the financial wherewithal to do what they say they're going to do?'" Ericson counters that he and his partners presented financial information to city and county finance officials in an hour-long meeting Jan. 22. Based on that meeting, county chief administrative officer Jim Huntzicker has said the Ericson plan "wouldn't just be a pipe dream. ... This group has actually performed in the past." But Lipscomb told commissioners he's seen no such proof. Ericson sat just feet away as Lipscomb spoke -- and later was given 7 minutes to respond. He took particular exception to Lipscomb's assertion that the theme park industry is struggling. "Magic Kingdom, 3% up. Disneyland, 1.2% up. Epcot, 5.5% up," said Ericson, citing attendance increases from the 2006 TEA/ERA theme park attendance report. He said the report for 2007 isn't complete, but that it was a "record year" for attendance and revenue. "The theme park industry is very strong, and it's growing," he said. As Ericson began speaking to commissioners, Lipscomb left the room. Ericson plan change Since late last year, Memphian Greg Ericson has proposed redeveloping The Pyramid and Mud Island River Park, vowing $250 million in private funding for a plan that would include shopping and hotels. But amid City Council questions about whether Mud Island should be included and with the county having an ownership stake only in The Pyramid and not Mud Island, Ericson has changed plans. He now proposes to redevelop The Pyramid in a standalone project with $150 million in private funding. But, he seeks a written commitment that the city would issue a request for proposals for Mud Island and pick a developer in 6 months. He said his group would respond to the request. ----------- =A9 2008 The E.W. Scripps Co. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Thu Feb 21 08:35:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 83438 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 16:35:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2008 16:35:09 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n52b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.166) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 16:35:09 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n52.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 16:35:09 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 16:35:09 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 16:35:09 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:35:09 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.166 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Towers Hoists Sail on Ship for Pirates X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=8gQBiN0vQDT3OB4NClUUofQ1s2H0tWMvZjWMw_IhGTana2w X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 21 February 2008 The Sentinel http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=3D158315&comman= d=3DdisplayContent&sourceNode=3D158315&contentPK=3D19941301&folderPk=3D8765= 4 By Nicola Irwin ALTON, STAFFORDSHIRE, UK -- Theme park staff have been mastering the art of being a pirate in readiness for the opening of a new attraction. Alton Towers (AT) will unveil its =A36 million Mutiny Bay, when the park opens for the 2008 season on March 15. Yesterday, staff were put through their paces as they picked up top tips on how to be bona-fide buccaneers. Suitably qualified Mad Cap N Tom, the head of the UK chapter of Talk Like A Pirate Day, and an authority on all things pirate, took them through an hour-long seminar. The captain, aka Thomas Scott, of York, started the eerie talk in thick fog, as he summed up the perfect pirate accent - "a little bit Bristol, a little bit West Country, a little bit something else". "I have really enjoyed it. It's been fun," he said. "They picked it up and I think they will make great pirates." The 20-strong group mastered traditional pirate phrases such as "Ahoy me hearties", so they can adapt theme park instructions such as "Please keep you arms and legs in the boat" into pirate speak. Mutiny Bay is a family-friendly area boasting 3 rides. The flagship attraction is an actual ship, combined as a water ride in Battle Galleons. There's also Marauder's Mayhem, and Heave Ho. Yesterday's new recruits were also taught how to swagger like a drunken pirate, and dress in a way to do Blackbeard himself proud. Sabina Isovic, aged 32, is preparing for her 2nd season at AT. Canadian-born Sabina, who will be in joint charge of Mutiny Bay when AT opens next month, yesterday donned her eye patch and pirate hat. She said: "It's been really fun and exciting. There's been lots of attempts of 'Ahoy me hearties'. I think the new rides will be really popular." Also finding his sea legs yesterday was Mutiny Bay co-captain Simon Ratcliffe, aged 21, who has been working at the park for 4 years. He said: "It's been really fun. For the guys working on the rides it will be great to encourage them and get everyone joining in. "I think it's a great family area. It's what the park has been needing." Mad Cap N Tom was helped by 3 of Alton Towers' own pirates, who have been entertaining children at the hotel and park during half-term. Darren Beard, a family ride experience coach, who has worked at the park since September 1991, said: "It's been great fun learning to be pirates. I have learned to go 'yarr' convincingly. The park workers have done very well. They have lots of energy and enthusiasm so they are ready for March 15." Ben Sweet, aged 30, who is the park coach, and has worked there for 5 years, said: "It's been great fun, a fantastic day. The pirates are ready for Mutiny Bay." Carla Ballone, aged 25, who is preparing for her 2nd season at AT, said: "The training was really fun and unusual. It will be good doing it for real. I can't wait for it to open." Amy Hodgkinson, aged 25, who has worked at AT for 4 years, said: "The best bit was making the pirate noises. I loved it. It was definitely something different and really fun."=20 ------------- =A9 Staffordshire Sentinel News and Media Ltd From guineapic@yahoo.com Thu Feb 21 12:38:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: guineapic@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 89972 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 20:38:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2008 20:38:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n44b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.158) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 20:38:04 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n44.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 20:38:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 20:38:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.195] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 20:38:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:38:03 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.158 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 141.154.255.227 From: "Toni Picariello" Subject: Six Flags ordered to stop work on new roller coaster X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=103160671; y=tfyTefqUZ66oInoW7SzBLdlITWWXBwzhSXyN-a4iKDoYA97s X-Yahoo-Profile: guineapic Six Flags ordered to stop work on new roller coaster By Associated Press | Thursday, February 21, 2008 |=20=20 http://www.bostonherald.com=20=20=20 =20 AGAWAM - Agawam's building inspector has ordered Six Flags New England=20 to stop work on its new $7 million indoor roller coaster. Town officials say the park started construction before getting a=20 building permit and before it received permission last week to exceed=20 the area's 45-foot height limit. The 70-foot building will house the "Dark Knight" coaster, which will=20 have a Batman theme and operate almost entirely in the dark. A Six Flags spokeswoman says they hope to have it running by Memorial=20 Day weekend. She said they are working closely with Agawam officials and will meet=20 March 5 with state public safety officials to review the project. Article URL: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg? articleid=3D1075063=20 From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Thu Feb 21 13:46:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 92103 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 21:46:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2008 21:46:00 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.61) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 21:45:59 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 24966 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2008 21:45:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: toe6pIkVM1k8o.nTquVQtA5JwWHZMwZqjhoNZMHB9Ppfw0sGNSnaUjSKSZlHC99253Cjvh6vcQEOrqyD8fgKf_Ruiqk9SyE.6ENWeaM3bH1phBebuLQksaMSZYoP0ObWqoeqGJ4XnXqL49ZySJvSHjQD X-Received: from [72.70.239.123] by web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:45:59 PST Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:45:59 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1203536390.2359.76411.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <396945.24915.qm@web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.61 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: news: Indiana Beach sold X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=Mcx43UK7xWginmO87qYvbdODcc2f_9OFZLnTNzFX3VPSfwrdNKlh X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is really sad news. My God -- to an RV company!? What the heck do they know about running an amusement park? This is one of the best parks in the midwest with some great rides. I shudder to imagine what will eventually become of the place. A giant RV sales lot? Jay --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Briguy7568@aol.com Thu Feb 21 13:51:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: Briguy7568@aol.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 44511 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 21:51:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m41.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2008 21:51:12 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m22.mail.aol.com) (64.12.137.3) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 21:51:12 -0000 X-Received: from Briguy7568@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.bd1.29555703 (65097) for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:50:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:50:38 EST To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Originating-IP: 64.12.137.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Briguy7568@aol.com Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: news: Indiana Beach sold X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3522502; y=CaExjuJYiVNQIUo54M4PHw0ypg9BAlPeOzetQgb4KUzfdbAkVA X-Yahoo-Profile: briguy7568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/21/2008 4:46:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jay_ducharme@yahoo.com writes: I shudder to imagine what will eventually become of the place. A giant RV sales lot? That's what actually happened to Lesourdsville Lake. It was bought by an RV Dealer, and it ran one season with him, and it became just an RV lot. The park is now gone with an SBNO defunct wooden coaster rotting away there! Lets hope Indiana Beach doesn't become like that! Brian **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 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Six Flags forgot to get a building permit.... Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From natekohlrusch@gmail.com Thu Feb 21 14:10:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: natekohlrusch@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 85460 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 22:10:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2008 22:10:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO wr-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.184.232) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 22:10:38 -0000 X-Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so293573wra.13 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:10:37 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.2.19 with SMTP id e19mr7077365rvi.221.1203631837689; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:10:37 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.193.5 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:10:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:10:37 -0600 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <134039.39374.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <134039.39374.qm@web53110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.184.232 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Nate Kohlrusch" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Six Flags coaster held up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=252692647; y=fyUz6XinoPsPHrXQQmKF_acaQJ2bmTXz0WIMsYw-96UDoAKlHIMMk9w X-Yahoo-Profile: coasterdude318 > Ooooops! Six Flags forgot to get a building permit.... If you read the article, it's not that they forgot...it's that they begin construction before they had secured the permit. -Nate From adamf.sandy@gmail.com Thu Feb 21 14:30:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: adamf.sandy@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 79300 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 22:30:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Feb 2008 22:30:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO an-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.132.248) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 22:30:34 -0000 X-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b36so45915ana.111 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:30:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.100.163.8 with SMTP id l8mr21188120ane.78.1203633033520; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:30:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: X-Received: from VALUED3253602F ( [69.140.249.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm540232agc.32.2008.02.21.14.30.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:30:31 -0800 (PST) To: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:30:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 11.0.5207 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 thread-index: Ach01pkSaSSGZsXHRTm8IyGHCFDpSwAAqWEg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <47bdfb87.22035a0a.2662.58ad@mx.google.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.85.132.248 From: "Adam Sandy" Subject: RE: Six Flags coaster held up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=256330587; y=lnfRIckmTvvBH6jbnhD9uI1lP0XSsm2-b14536Zau2Ye4As X-Yahoo-Profile: afrsandy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "If you read the article, it's not that they forgot...it's that they begin construction before they had secured the permit." Which is actually not out of the ordinary in the industry. Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lance@screamscape.com Thu Feb 21 18:06:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lance@screamscape.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 3140 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 02:06:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2008 02:06:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO omta09.mta.everyone.net) (216.200.145.36) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2008 02:06:48 -0000 X-Received: from dm37.mta.everyone.net (bigiplb-dsnat [172.16.0.19]) by omta09.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B1640259 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:06:47 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm37 X-Received: by dm37.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 1894cb8e) id dm37.47bdbd20.3176b for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:06:46 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQLpJOlHvi424zBQDgIAAAAB,f1137dd1b80e42ccdba2a2176d706e7c Message-ID: <9B22CB13EFCD4D269F152DF04E04B709@ScreamscapeHP> To: References: <47bdfb87.22035a0a.2662.58ad@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <47bdfb87.22035a0a.2662.58ad@mx.google.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:06:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Originating-IP: 216.200.145.36 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Lance" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] RE: Six Flags coaster held up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=44384404; y=0pL9LZT-s1ESva89UvoWMiRtV1snXGOBpGKirXYggDfFuG6Fk9d4O6e4HA X-Yahoo-Profile: screamscapelance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While I never saw the site myself, I had heard that they did clear and prep the site before getting permission, but I'm not sure if that's illegal or not since they didn't start to "build" anything yet. And from my fuzzy memory, this isn't the first time they've had this issue at SFNE in the past either. I seem to recall pieces for more than one more ride showing up months in advance of the park ever getting permission to build it. Seems they're a little on the "Sloooooooooooooow" side in that area. ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Sandy To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: [RollerCoasterTalk] RE: Six Flags coaster held up "If you read the article, it's not that they forgot...it's that they begin construction before they had secured the permit." Which is actually not out of the ordinary in the industry. Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From robbalvey@aol.com Fri Feb 22 00:06:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: robbalvey@aol.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 9791 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 08:06:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2008 08:06:48 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.206) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2008 08:06:48 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n18.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 08:06:48 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 08:06:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:06:45 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.206 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 69.234.221.96 From: "Just some dude" Subject: Six Flags Mark Shapiro Interview & X2 Update X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1955480; y=sb9vgn_JoEFjnnu3_tC1xj2Uoq7QnmjHvgr-ow1w25oqCqFJ X-Yahoo-Profile: robbalvey Since this group seems to discuss a lot of industry related topics,=20 I thought you all might be interested in this -=20 Today Theme Park Review was invited to come have a chat with Six=20 Flags President and CEO Mark Shapiro as well as check out the first=20 completed X2 train.=20 A lot of questions were asked, and I think you'll be very pleased=20 with some of the answers! Be sure to listen to the interview. There=20 is a link to it at the bottom of the update. It's in MP3 format and=20 you can either stream it or download it once you click the link. As for some of the bullet points that were discussed outside of the=20 audio portion of the interview, here you go:=20 TPR: When asked about taking out older rides -=20 Mark Shaprio: "It's about taking out what's not working. The old=20 philosophy would just let rides sit there and rot. We are going to=20 go through our park and clean them out. We have a master plan. You=20 might not see an immediate exchange, but in time we will fill out=20 the park."=20 TPR: When asked about 2009 at Six Flags Magic Mountain -=20 Mark Shaprio: "We are looking into a new coaster for 2009. Can I say=20 anymore? No. We're also looking into Wiggle's World. "=20 TPR: What kinds of rides do you like?=20 Mark Shaprio: "I like big drops, but I'll be honest, I don't like to=20 go upside down. Goliath is my favorite ride at Six Flags Magic=20 Mountain."=20 TPR: Thomas Town looks like it will be well themed, you are adding=20 new theming to X2, can we expect this level of theming with up=20 coming attractions?=20 Mark Shaprio: "Everything we launch will come with a storyline, it=20 will come with a theme. That's a focus for Six Flags moving forward.=20 Historically it's been 'put down a ride where ever we have room', I=20 don't believe in that. We want to do something for both families and=20 the thrill seekers. Will Six Flags Magic Mountain gain back the=20 coaster capital status? In due time, absolutely."=20 TPR: When can we expect X2 and Thomas Town to open?=20 Mark Shaprio: "Memorial Day weekend, 2008."=20 I can also mention two things that have not been announced yet that=20 Shapiro talked about today. First off, in the location of Circus=20 Wheel will be a new high-energy, complex Midway game. It will be=20 a "3 point challenge Basketball Game" that promises will be full of=20 entertainment for the guests. Not only the ones playing, but for=20 spectators as well. So how can they replace a ride with a game you=20 ask? What about a new ride to replace it you might ask? Shapiro=20 tells us "be patient...we WILL fill out the park...in due time." Another new for 2008 announcement is that the Sky Tower will also be=20 turned into the Sky Tower Museum. You'll see exhibits from past=20 Magic Mountain rides on display and will give more reason to visit=20 Sky Tower.=20 Listen to the audio part of the interview and check out photos of X2=20 and other Magic Mountain updates:=20 http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3D41974=20 --Robb Alvey=20 www.themeparkreview.com=20 From adamf.sandy@gmail.com Fri Feb 22 04:52:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: adamf.sandy@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 58720 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 12:52:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2008 12:52:34 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO an-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.132.240) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2008 12:52:33 -0000 X-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d11so86146and.28 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:52:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.100.122.12 with SMTP id u12mr22843925anc.46.1203684753318; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:52:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: X-Received: from VALUED3253602F ( [69.140.249.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm1193601agd.30.2008.02.22.04.52.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:52:32 -0800 (PST) To: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:52:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 11.0.5207 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 thread-index: Ach00+IUhDTJOn2MQ+2XUyHg20CgLgAfPsRA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <47bec58f.08045a0a.580f.ffffd43a@mx.google.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.85.132.240 From: "Adam Sandy" Subject: Re: news: Indiana Beach sold X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=256330587; y=_qwKBwC68SECZ-IlK4hySVzhUS0fb9mQTkFDxpcTgskczuU X-Yahoo-Profile: afrsandy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "That's what actually happened to Lesourdsville Lake. It was bought by an RV Dealer, and it ran one season with him, and it became just an RV lot. The park is now gone with an SBNO defunct wooden coaster rotting away there! Lets hope Indiana Beach doesn't become like that!" Indiana Beach is pretty much the most expensive piece of property in an economically distressed area. If they just wanted to do an RV lot or even campground there are a lot of cheaper options around there, even on the lake. I think it would be a pretty big loss to buy IB and then scrap it, especially since the assets would not be worth a whole lot when sold. Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 06:48:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59356 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 14:48:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2008 14:48:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n38b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.152) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2008 14:48:28 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n38.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 14:48:28 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 14:48:28 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 14:48:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:48:25 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: MISC: HCM City kicks off construction of its first Metro X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=BS1c2Fk5hSnns35VAetSbc9ImPqTLgOIw41lKQQVA3qX0Ao X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 22, 2008 NhanDan Online http://www.nhandan.com.vn/english/business/220208/business_hcm.htm HO CHI MINH CITY, VIET NAM - Construction of the first Metro in Ho Chi Minh City was kicked off on February 21, starting from Ben Thanh market in downtown to Suoi Tien amusement park. The route is 19.7 kms long, including 2.6 kms stretch below ground and 17.1 kms above the ground, running on elevated track. Total investment for the project is put at VND 17.4 trillion. Of this, over VND 14.4 trillion comes from ODA loaned by the Japan Bank for International Co-operation (JBIC) and the remainder VND 3 trillion comes from the city budget. A trial run is expected in 2013 and the route is scheduled to be officially put into use in 2014. The project, once being completed will help ease traffic congestion and boost socio-economic development in HCM, the country's biggest city. ------------ Copyright 2008 NhanDan Online From cameron@buzzneon.com Fri Feb 22 06:49:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: cameron@buzzneon.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42995 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 14:49:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2008 14:49:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.8) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2008 14:49:59 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 3814 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 14:49:58 -0000 X-Received: from 74-94-116-170-chicago201-il.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (HELO [192.168.1.48]) (buzzneon@[74.94.116.170]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 22 Feb 2008 14:49:58 -0000 Message-ID: <47BEE113.7040200@buzzneon.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:49:55 -0600 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: <47bec58f.08045a0a.580f.ffffd43a@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <47bec58f.08045a0a.580f.ffffd43a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Cameron Silver Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: news: Indiana Beach sold X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=54528050; y=xRWSFpY93HZY4wMDqtNE14PH44rJNzsr7nxP6IpiWLCtDdPY X-Yahoo-Profile: buzz_neon > Indiana Beach is pretty much the most expensive piece of property in an > economically distressed area. If they just wanted to do an RV lot or even > campground there are a lot of cheaper options around there, even on the > lake. I think it would be a pretty big loss to buy IB and then scrap it, > especially since the assets would not be worth a whole lot when sold. Plus - Indiana Beach is a huge draw to get the campers there in the first place. Cameron. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 06:51:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 69022 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 14:51:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2008 14:51:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n47d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.173) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2008 14:51:00 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n47.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 14:51:00 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 14:51:00 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 14:51:00 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:50:59 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.173 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: MISC: HCM City kicks off construction of its first Metro X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=K-TxE8Wstti8DbG03VyrOZx2PC8H76wDMuEnN04zryVF_oA X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 FYI - I posted this News article because of the eventual Metro Link to Suoi Tien amusement park http://www.vietnamhost.com/suoitien_park/main.html -Alan --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > > February 22, 2008 > NhanDan Online > http://www.nhandan.com.vn/english/business/220208/business_hcm.htm From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 07:08:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 58064 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 15:08:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m41.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2008 15:08:46 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n11.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com) (69.147.103.138) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2008 15:08:44 -0000 X-Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n11.bullet.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 15:08:42 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 15:08:40 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.195] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 15:08:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:08:39 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 69.147.103.138 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Anheuser-Busch Spends $3.4M on Lobbying X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=n398e6boOnOOzUAUBppAeoKysmuTDnfbuLdQsdaQqxkw048 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 20, 2008 The Associated Press Yahoo! Finance http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080220/anheuser_busch_lobbying.html?.v=3D1 WASHINGTON DC -- Anheuser-Busch Cos. (A-B) spent about $3.4 million in 2007 to lobby on legislation related to cutting taxes on beer, restrictions on alcohol advertising, amusement park regulations and other issues related to the malt beverage industry. A-B spent more than $1.8 million in the 2nd half of 2007 to lobby the federal government, according to a disclosure form posted online Thursday by the Senate's public records office. A-B lobbied to reduce the beer tax to its pre-1991 level and on legislation restoring the jurisdiction of the Consumer Product Safety Commission on amusement park rides, bottle recycling and advertising. A-B spent more than $1.6 million in the first 6 months of 2007 to lobby on many of the same issues. In addition to lobbying Congress, A-B also lobbied the FTC, Dept of Agriculture, Dept of the Treasury, EPA, Executive Office of the President, Dept of Commerce, Dept of the Interior, Dept of Health and Human Services, White House Office of Management and Budget and Dept of State. Lobbyists are required to disclose activities that could influence members of the executive and legislative branches, under a federal law enacted in 1995. ---------------- Copyright =A9 2008 Yahoo! Inc. Copyright =A9 2008 The Associated Press From aelk2004@yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 07:18:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 23432 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 15:18:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2008 15:18:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n48c.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.182) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2008 15:18:35 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n48.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 15:18:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 15:18:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2008 15:18:35 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:18:32 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.182 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: KY. AG Commissioner says State needs more ride inspectors X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=aKiKYm6EuxtfWJ7XX2spVXgbhnQWDi8rTNpHeC4DJgfuk2E X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb. 20, 2008 The Associated Press Lexington Herald-Leader http://www.kentucky.com/471/story/323853.html By Joe Biesk FRANKFORT, KY -- Kentucky needs more inspectors to keep amusement ride patrons safe, state Agriculture Commissioner Richie Farmer said. While people have been injured, the state's been fortunate that no one's been killed on an amusement park ride in KY, Farmer said Wednesday. To keep things safe, the state Dept of Agriculture needs money to hire more ride inspectors, Farmer said. "We've been fortunate the good Lord has been watching over us," Farmer told The AP in an interview. "Because we've had a few injuries and we've had some things happen, but we've never had anybody die yet." Last summer, 13-y.o. Kaitlyn Lasitter's feet were severed after a cable snapped on the Superman Tower of Power ride at Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom (6FKK) in Louisville. The ride had received its annual inspection, an agency spokesman said. But the KY Dept of Agriculture is facing a 12% cut in Gov. Steve Beshear's proposed budget. Economic forecasters are estimating the state has an approximately $900 million budget shortfall over the next 2 fiscal years beginning July 1. To cope with the pending shortfall, Beshear has proposed an $18.5 million 2-year spending plan that calls for 12% cuts to public universities and most government agencies. Farmer, a 2nd-term Republican, said his agency's share of a 12% cut would amount to about $3.4 million. That's not enough for his agency to continue doing its job as it has been, Farmer told a legislative subcommittee. Agriculture officials handle a wide range of duties, including gasoline pump inspections and regulating various agricultural industries. Farmer said he was uncertain exactly how the agency would offset the proposed funding cuts. Nevertheless, Farmer said at least 5-8 more inspectors are needed to monitor amusement park rides. Currently, the agency has 8 full-time inspectors and others who monitor the less complicated carnival rides, Farmer said. "We've had a good track record," Farmer said. "We've never had anybody killed on an amusement ride here in KY, but I feel like it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when if something's not done to give us more people." In 1984, the agency had more than 20 amusement ride inspectors to cover the state, Farmer said. "There's going to come a point in time that, if nobody does anything, it's not our fault," Farmer said. "We're doing the best we can." Last year, KY had 32 amusement ride incidents reported to the state in which someone was hurt, agency spokesman Bill Clary said. Those incidents involved a wide range of problems, including reported bruises and back pain, Clary said. 8 incidents involved serious injuries that required medical attention at a hospital emergency room, Clary said. It was uncertain whether additional inspections at 6FKK could have caught the problem that led to Lasitter's injuries, Clary said. The ride, however, had received its inspection as required by law, Clary said. The agency is still investigating the cause of the incident, he said. Clary said the biggest challenge facing inspectors is traveling circuses. Inspectors do about 10,000 inspections per year, Clary said. "It's obvious that the 6FKK incident has thrown this into a lot higher awareness than it had been in times past. But the commissioner made the same argument to the legislature 2 years ago," Clary said. "The only thing that's changed is that people are paying a bit more attention to the issue this time around." --------------- Copyright 2008 The Associated Press Copyright 2008 Lexington Herald-Leader From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 17:04:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 6227 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 01:04:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 01:04:54 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.58) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 01:04:54 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 26615 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Feb 2008 01:04:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: f9qGc.YVM1lCWqlz.7dLGAhOOjAQjIfnpguhvNfhxCRgP.KGNZbDDPte1bvTqfyoUDMnLAYkMdjAsg9sUxwqGjIUV6IfeSSvodsscSUVq6wQqt6nc.Y- X-Received: from [72.70.239.123] by web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:54 PST Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:54 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1203707426.2296.46230.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <225034.26573.qm@web53108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.58 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: news: Indiana Beach sold X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=ZTPMNUwBAHV7mn7sq-WBFHt27kdHwZBGV43YA6uw9vl0W4LMb4x4 X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I think it would be a pretty big loss to buy IB and then scrap it, especially since the assets would not be worth a whole lot when sold. < So do I, Adam. I hope your assessment is correct. I would hate to see such a wonderful park disappear. Karen and I did stay at the campground while we were there, the tent section. It was pretty much a pit, unfortunately. So if the RV company can make improvements in the campgrounds, that would be welcome. The place sure was packed when we were there. Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 17:08:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 39341 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 01:08:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 01:08:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.61) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 01:08:18 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 67348 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Feb 2008 01:08:18 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qqL6SB4VM1kcABHT486W08e.5rTr_c9U1DU6ww0TBi77FoSaXeGjlf_ZpVVmO2rVkG7IlMcdo.8gCkw7Q5kiq6hU8enNSR0wbGAA6mkstpDew357c8xYGbrscLZipmiXkVeAYTUqD18JqW.7eewy0WkC8Q-- X-Received: from [72.70.239.123] by web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:08:18 PST Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:08:18 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1203707426.2296.46230.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <359607.67046.qm@web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.61 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: Six Flags coaster held up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=QNKT2tt-q1AuPlbNbZ7ZsyeTgeqMy9wJ93jupT_JbkcuEUqR43pP X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > "If you read the article, it's not that they forgot...it's that they begin construction before they had secured the permit." < I was trying to be kind, rather than claim Six Flags violated local policy. :-) > Which is actually not out of the ordinary in the industry. < I agree. And it usually results in a little extra cash being quietly funneled to certain people. Jay --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jay_ducharme@yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 17:24:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: jay_ducharme@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 18471 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 01:24:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 01:24:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.61) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 01:24:26 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 77211 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Feb 2008 01:24:20 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: BBoebhsVM1kdmPxaCg2UjN.2Ol40Jb9yJ4MO23GK83eatgMluvJ6BNFcJKk5RetDZl2pijtHRzyuEpwuX4rkRjmqGSSYswKPL1YrcmRwWathJmeKx8kDENjC0wLC5onH8oi9jW9Pl01r X-Received: from [72.70.239.123] by web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:24:20 PST Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:24:20 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <1203707426.2296.46230.m45@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <47856.76551.qm@web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.61 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: Jay Ducharme Subject: Re: Six Flags Mark Shapiro Interview X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=258680536; y=aB5byjvWAQiQHUiqXqbmLIDKzofwvsudBHxiP_y6vddPY1fCWo1a X-Yahoo-Profile: jay_ducharme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terrific photos of X! Those new trains look mighty beefy. I imagine the new structure will take care of the formerly shaky seats. Shapiro's interview was interesting. His comment about "You have to have patience" is absolutely true. Unfortunately, the corporation has a time bomb ticking: their massive debt load. Collectors have only so much patience. Jay --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thunder7nyfl@yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 19:38:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: thunder7nyfl@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59190 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 03:38:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 03:38:10 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n78.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (98.136.44.42) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 03:38:10 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n78.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 11:30:42 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.65.182] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 03:38:10 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 03:38:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 827507.83440.bm@omp301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 20205 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Feb 2008 03:38:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: YBJF5vMVM1m4BDuaTGVyqwKA8SWGvPWijNQuNccAItPTJ_SeYCA8T3ChmsVpK4qRUopLNAG0D8pujbPZGMKY6PGEz4XQXK5P8kv2RnGMmtfDu_sJ58f76ciosBq6aQ-- X-Received: from [70.127.134.191] by web45107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:38:10 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:38:10 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <637907.19111.qm@web45107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 98.136.44.42 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: THUNDER Reply-To: THUNDER Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: Six Flags Mark Shapiro Interview X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=173049580; y=4YaxG-439J3q9ioxAeY_pac3oLppPK8iAx6PFVzvOLVVx7VKG8SI X-Yahoo-Profile: thunder7nyfl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ---- From: Jay Ducharme To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:24:20 PM Subject: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: Six Flags Mark Shapiro Interview .. I found it interesting that he says SFMM will once regain the title as RollerCoaster Capital of the World. The "black sheep" of the chain seems to have found a place in Shapiro's heart. It appears he's coming around to understanding what SFMM really means to the world. The history is clear... a world class park with something for everyone while holding the title as a thrill seekers park. He clearly says 2009 has a coaster on deck, and possibly Wiggles World. He also says plans for 2010 and 2011 are already in the planning stages. He's right in saying previous management was just building coasters anywhere. We'll see how it plays out as Jay is right. The debt load is enormous. Joe ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From gburnash@earthlink.net Sat Feb 23 06:32:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: gburnash@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 53753 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 14:32:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 14:32:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net) (209.86.89.65) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 14:32:18 -0000 X-Received: from pool-71-122-139-70.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.122.139.70] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JSvQH-0001dT-Qc for RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:32:18 -0500 Message-ID: <47C02DC3.1090603@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:29:23 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com References: <637907.19111.qm@web45107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <637907.19111.qm@web45107.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 95f3a1acbbcf5638846e115e3e8cf45574bf435c0eb9d478fb5088d70c8a068c3d2cdd4e1038bfc317f682d8ab707b86350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.89.65 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: george burnash Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: Six Flags Mark Shapiro Interview X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=115345197; y=g8eDfJT11g9cgN99TN2hV8p52M543TOIHSif_zjjkPCBL4M X-Yahoo-Profile: gburnash THUNDER wrote: > .. > I found it interesting that he says SFMM will once regain the title as > RollerCoaster Capital of the World. The "black sheep" of the chain seems > to have found a place in Shapiro's heart. It appears he's coming around > to understanding what SFMM really means to the world. The history is > clear... a world class park with something for everyone while holding > the title as a thrill seekers park. That was interesting, but I also found 2 other things even more intersting- First, in response to being asked about the removal of flats, he said, and emphasized, that they were going to fill out the park, which gives me some hope that they may actually restore the ride collection at the park, not just the coasters. The other is the amount of infrastructure work going on all over the park- much of which hasn't happened in years. Repainting coasters, resealing pavement, repaving areas, I've even heard that some of the bathrooms have received work. That's so different than what has been done in the past, and probably encourages me more than anything else. After seeing the work, and hearing the interview, it's the first time since Shapiro came in that I've had some hope and encouragement for the parks- and the first time I've really started to think that maybe my impressions of the new management team for the company might be a good thing, not a bad one. keep on ridin' George From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 06:43:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 11918 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 14:43:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 14:43:08 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n30a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.252) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 14:43:08 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n30.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 14:43:08 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 14:43:08 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.201] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 14:43:08 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:43:07 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <359607.67046.qm@web53111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.252 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: Six Flags coaster held up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=RdgEguK5HEEV0LF7ltYkyj-C6GZDWa1oLNbDO3FC5Wp6EKs X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, Jay Ducharme wrote: > > I agree. And it usually results in a little extra cash being quietly funneled to certain people. >=20 > Jay You're not saying that anyone in a position of power could be BRIBED?! ;p -Alan From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 06:52:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 31355 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 14:52:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 14:52:32 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n18d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.59) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 14:52:32 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by n18.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 14:52:29 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 14:52:29 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:52:29 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.59 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Park faces Charges over girl's death on water ride X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=1mbdgsVRd17J3X643R8svjUH7vNQ2PZUqTpfSQV2eujI4D4 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 23 2008 The Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/feb/23/wales By Helen Pidd NARBERTH, PEMBROKESHIRE, UK -- 4 years after a teenage girl died on a ride at a theme park in Wales, the owners have been summoned to court to answer charges of health and safety breaches. Hayley Williams, 16, from Pontypool, south Wales, was thrown out of her seat while on top of the Hydro water ride at Oakwood Theme Park (OW) in Pembrokeshire as it began an almost vertical 30-metre descent into a plunge pool. She died of internal injuries following the incident in April 2004. At an inquest in May 2006, the Pembrokeshire coroner, Michael Howells, ruled out unlawful killing when he concluded the evidence did not support a view that death had been as a result of gross negligence. The Crown Prosecution Service also ruled out criminal charges but the Health and Safety Executive served a summons on OW yesterday for an alleged breach of the Health and Safety at Work Act after its own investigation. The charge involves failing to ensure that Hayley Williams and Martin Rothwell, 10, who suffered minor injuries in the incident, were as safe as "reasonably practicable" at the time of the accident. The first court hearing has been scheduled for Haverfordwest magistrates court next month. The HSE said that if the case reaches the crown court, OW faces an unlimited fine if found guilty. If it is dealt with at magistrates court, the maximum fine would be =A320,000. Since the girl's death, safety precautions on the Hydro ride have been tightened, with over-the-shoulder restraints fitted instead of lap bars. A spokesman for OW declined to comment. ------------ =A9 Guardian News and Media Limited 2008 From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 07:04:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 17965 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 15:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 15:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n28a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.246) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 15:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n28.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:04:04 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.84] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:04:04 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:04:03 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.246 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: RUMOR: Disney park for Shanghai likely X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=e0U8GxKbGvUEiUo1taVv5jFepuVtDH692lKEgTuyR6tkILE X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 22, 2008 The Associated Press Reuters International Herald Tribune http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/22/business/AS-FIN-China-Shanghai-Di= sneyland.php SHANGHAI, CHINA -- A long-anticipated plan to build a Disney theme park in Shanghai is likely to move ahead soon, a state-run newspaper said Friday, though the company denied the report. The Shanghai Securities Journal, citing an unnamed official, said the park is due to be built in the southern outskirts of Shanghai's Pudong district and has already received needed government approvals. "In the past it was all speculation, this time it's for real!" the paper said. However, Walt Disney Co.'s spokeswoman in Asia, Alannah Hall-Smith denied the report. "There is no agreement and there is no deal," Hall-Smith said. She reiterated that Disney has been discussing various initiatives in China for years, including theme parks, community programs and business operations. "China is an important market for (Disney)," she said. The company, which has set up offices in a sleek new Shanghai commercial complex, has repeatedly emphasized that for now it is focusing on developing its Hong Kong theme park, which opened in 2005 but has not lived up to expectations. The report lifted shares in Shanghai-based property companies Friday, analysts said, despite the local market's overall weakness. --------------- Copyright =A9 2008 the International Herald Tribune Copyright =A9 2008 The Associated Press =A9 Reuters 2008 From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 07:11:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 25582 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 15:11:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m41.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 15:11:49 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n52b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.166) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 15:11:49 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n52.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:11:49 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:11:49 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:11:49 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:11:48 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.166 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: UPDATE: Eloy music theme park may include Fender X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=C-udKC7aNxAuR7oQxegU1Xr1GUuSpSsV-Of8hPY3moBSCcE X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 23, 2008 The Arizona Republic http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/0220biz-decades0= 220.html By Ronald J. Hansen ELOY, AZ -- Fender, the Scottsdale-based guitar maker, intends to be part of the effort to create a rock-and-roll theme park in Pinal County, although officials could not say Tuesday precisely what the company's role would be. "We are going to be involved, and in what capacity still needs to be resolved," said Clay Lyons, business-affairs manager for Fender. "We're still getting some details ironed out." Those familiar with the proposed Decades Music Theme Park project said Fender would come aboard as a partner and that Danny Zelisko, the longtime Valley concert promoter, is in negotiations to join as a partner as well. The state Senate Commerce and Economic Development Committee is scheduled to consider a bill today that would create a regional-attraction district that could issue up to $750 million in revenue bonds for the project if private contributors provide at least $100 million. Zelisko could not be reached for comment Tuesday, but is expected to be among those cited as supporting the legislation. Lyons said representatives of Fender would be on hand for the hearing. The Decades project seeks to build a 240-acre theme park in Eloy, halfway between Phoenix and Tucson. Supporters say the project could create about 3,000 jobs to build the park and about 5,000 jobs if it opens. Developers hope to open by July 2012. ------------- Copyright =A9 2008, azcentral.com From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 07:25:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 21456 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 15:25:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 15:25:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n47d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.173) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 15:25:35 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n47.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:25:35 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:25:35 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:25:35 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:25:34 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.173 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Hit Ent. to build Dubai theme park X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=Kk3qTzU8YbEJ1190GaldG7jfb_960C9uzOuJ0c-xZbbVkj0 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb. 21, 2008 Variety http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117981241.html?categoryid=3D14&cs=3D1 By Ali Jaafar DUBAI, UAE -- British kidvid shingle Hit Entertainment (HE) has become the latest media company to grab a slice of the ever-growing Dubai real estate pie by inking a strategic alliance with Dubailand, the 3 billion sq-ft development designed to help make Dubai a global tourist destination. The deal will see HE execs develop a series of family-friendly projects, including the 25,000 sq-ft Little Big Club theme park designed around HE franchises such as "Barney," "Pingu" and "Bob the Builder." The 7-figure dollar deal will be set within the Global Village section of Dubailand, itself a member of U.A.E.-based real estate company Tatweer, and will also include live entertainment, themed restaurants and retail outlets. The Global Village is set to open by the end of the year. "The alliance with HE is a continuation of our strategy of bringing the world's most prestigious names in the leisure and entertainment industries to Dubailand," said Dubailand CEO Mohammad Al-Habbai. Deal follows on from Tatweer's billion-dollar-plus strategic alliance with DreamWorks Animation in January to develop a range of tourism and leisure projects, the highlight of which will be a theme park. The 5 million sq-ft DreamWorks Animation branded park will see rides incorporate characters from DreamWorks titles such as the "Shrek" franchise and upcoming "Kung Fu Panda." In May last year, Tatweer also announced a $2 billion deal with Universal Parks and Resorts to build Universal City Dubailand. The 505-acre development, which will include a 149-acre Universal theme park along with a range of hotels, restaurants and retail outlets, will open in 2010. Marvel Entertainment, Nickelodeon and Paramount have also inked their own licensing and multi-media deals with U.A.E.-based real estate companies in recent months. --------------- =A9 2008 Reed Business Information From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 07:41:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 39265 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 15:41:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 15:41:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n42b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.156) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 15:41:07 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n42.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:41:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:41:07 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.197] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 15:41:07 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:41:07 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.156 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: MISC: Park launches "Name the baby dolphin" contest X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=kUt0B6lAxR1niVYMwCBmnXi0WGpEblJ6P1oie2715g2sT74 X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 21 February 2008 Dominican Today The Dominican Republic News Source http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/this-and-that/2008/2/21/27107/Theme-park-l= aunches-Name-the-baby-dolphin-contest SANTO DOMINGO, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC -- Dolphin Island Park is holding the contest "Name the baby dolphin," to celebrate the birth of the first dolphin in its facilities on August 2007. The theme park, located in Dominican Republic's Bavaro-Punta Cana region, said the contest is an initiative which aims to get students to learn about and love those animals. Dolphin Island director Miguel Moreno said La Altagracia province public and private school students from 7-13 years of age can take part, and the winner gets a computer with its accessories, and a visit to the dolphin, whose parents are named Vicky and Ca=EDn. ---------- Copyright 2008 The Dominican Republic News Source in English From thunder7nyfl@yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 11:15:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: thunder7nyfl@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: rollercoastertalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 41911 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 19:15:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2008 19:15:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n54.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (98.136.44.32) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 19:15:21 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n54.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 11:14:03 -0000 X-Received: from [69.147.84.100] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 19:15:20 -0000 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp201.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2008 19:15:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 888463.43568.bm@omp201.mail.sp1.yahoo.com X-Received: (qmail 22228 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Feb 2008 19:15:20 -0000 X-Received: from [70.127.128.104] by web45109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:15:20 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:15:20 -0800 (PST) To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <759057.20798.qm@web45109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 98.136.44.32 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: THUNDER Reply-To: THUNDER Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: Six Flags Mark Shapiro Interview X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=173049580; y=jjBuUkk8rIKCeHbGLB4jvVxyz5yuKNLe5DaSfNkEZj0NqmeISzn1 X-Yahoo-Profile: thunder7nyfl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ---- From: george burnash To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:29:23 AM Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: Six Flags Mark Shapiro Interview THUNDER wrote: > .. > I found it interesting that he says SFMM will once regain the title as > RollerCoaster Capital of the World. The "black sheep" of the chain seems > to have found a place in Shapiro's heart. It appears he's coming around > to understanding what SFMM really means to the world. The history is > clear... a world class park with something for everyone while holding > the title as a thrill seekers park. GEORGE wrote: That was interesting, but I also found 2 other things even more intersting- First, in response to being asked about the removal of flats, he said, and emphasized, that they were going to fill out the park, which gives me some hope that they may actually restore the ride collection at the park, not just the coasters. The other is the amount of infrastructure work going on all over the park- much of which hasn't happened in years. Repainting coasters, resealing pavement, repaving areas, I've even heard that some of the bathrooms have received work. That's so different than what has been done in the past, and probably encourages me more than anything else. After seeing the work, and hearing the interview, it's the first time since Shapiro came in that I've had some hope and encouragement for the parks- and the first time I've really started to think that maybe my impressions of the new management team for the company might be a good thing, not a bad one. keep on ridin' George THUNDER writes: I will eat my bad words for now, as my impressions were bad also. Now, I am taking a neutral stance until I see what new management does in the next 5 years with the parks as Shapiro did say they are currently working on the 5 year plan for the parks. Joe ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 24 10:43:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 11107 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2008 18:43:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2008 18:43:15 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n11e.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.71) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2008 18:43:15 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n21.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2008 18:43:15 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2008 18:43:15 -0000 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:43:13 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.71 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: MISC: Interview at Cliff's X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=AEzpeS6HR8fqhzn4sVdvkZck8IfYuVKM0yvySqkCa89S2ic X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Wish me luck y'all. I have an interview with Cliff's Amusement Park on Monday! -Alan From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 24 10:58:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 24422 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2008 18:58:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2008 18:58:52 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n32b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.212) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2008 18:58:52 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n32.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2008 18:58:52 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.86] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2008 18:58:52 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.83] by t8.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2008 18:58:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:58:51 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.212 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Famous Dave's founder takes on Dells (long) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=9bAAa6aBmYJK6wBO-afoAuPjD9fzc9ciQ4rgNv9fLAhgA7U X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb. 23, 2008 The Journal-Sentinel http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=3D721388 By Tom Daykin GURNEE, IL-- "Famous Dave" Anderson never thought much about water parks while running his chain of barbecue restaurants. So he was amazed several years ago when he stepped into the lobby of Great Wolf (GW) Lodge, near Wisconsin Dells. "There must have been 200 people, standing in line, all waiting to get in," Anderson said. Anderson hopes for similar crowds at his $135 million KeyLime Cove (KLC), a 400-room water park resort that opens Friday. KLC is just off I-94 in Gurnee, IL, about halfway between Milwaukee and Chicago, and will likely pull residents from both areas who would otherwise drive to the Dells. "I think the Wisconsin Dells will always be strong," said Anderson, who credits the Dells indoor water park operators for transforming their area into a year-round tourism draw. But KLC, he said, will offer a different product from GW, Kalahari resort and other major water park resorts in the Dells. "These guys fell into this, and they really don't know what they have," Anderson said. "We believe our vision is greater." "It's a lot easier to build a barbecue stand than an indoor water park," responded Todd Nelson, Kalahari's operator. He and other Dells water park owners expect KLC to have little impact on their business. Anderson's vision includes what he calls an "adult-forward strategy," with activities such as cooking classes and wine tastings for parents, and a high level of service, with special attention paid to the quality of food served at KLC's restaurants. The informal model is Las Vegas, with its artificial - yet attractive - environment. Think the Paris Hotel and Casino, or New York New York, minus the gambling. "There's a whole new world once you get inside the doors," Anderson said. Tropical world At KLC, that world is a tropical resort, awash in pastel colors, with umbrella drinks, floral scents and a layout of shops and restaurants designed to resemble a Key West street. The 65,000-sq-ft water park has huge tube and body slides, a lazy river, whirlpools and other features. Anderson also touts an attention to details. The bedsheets have a higher thread count than those found at other hotels, so they're more comfortable, he said. The rooms feature flat-screen TVs, high-end Keurig coffee makers and other amenities. Guests, including children, can use their wristbands - equipped with radio transmitters - to pay for meals, arcade game tokens and other items, allowing them to explore the resort without having to carry cash or credit cards. The restaurants include D.W. Anderson's Eatery and Ice Cream Parlor, which Anderson hopes to turn into a chain of free-standing, franchised locations. The menu features burgers and other comfort food. Years in service industry Although KLC is a new venture, Anderson is a service industry veteran. In 1994, he helped start the Rainforest Cafe, a chain of theme restaurants that includes a Gurnee location. That same year, Anderson, a Chicago native, opened a Famous Dave's barbecue restaurant in Hayward, in northern WI. It spawned additional restaurants, and Famous Dave's of America Inc. had its initial public offering 2 years later. Anderson today is the retired chairman of the company, based in Minnetonka, MN. It owns 44 Famous Dave's locations and has another 120 Famous Dave's restaurants under franchised operators. Anderson was exploring ways to draw more tourists to Hayward, where he operated a small resort near his restaurant, when someone suggested looking at the Dells water parks. That led Anderson to GW Lodge and the decision to develop a water park resort between Milwaukee and Chicago. KLC, which Anderson once considered building about 15 miles north, in Kenosha, will be the largest water park resort in the Chicago area. Anderson and his partners, including Minneapolis-based Morrissey Hospitality Cos., expect to expand the hotel to 600 rooms, and the indoor water park to 100,000 sq-ft, within the next 12 months. They also plan to boost meeting room space from 12,000 sq-ft to 80,000 sq-ft. Chicago has a huge meeting and convention market, and the additional meeting space will help KLC grab a larger share of the business. The development, which began construction in November 2006, has 450 employees. Anderson thinks he can duplicate KLC in other locations throughout the US. Some Dells water park resort operators have added other locations. The biggest is GW Resorts Inc., which operates 10 properties in WI, OH, MI, PA, Ontario, VI, TX and KS, and has 2 others under construction in NC and WA. The Madison-based company also has plans for resorts in MN, CT and GA. CEO John Emery doesn't expect KLC to have a major impact on GW. "The Dells is the best family vacation market in Midwest," Emery said. "I do not believe one asset is going to have a material impact on just the vast numbers of people who call the Dells the place to go." Mall, Six Flags touted Anderson says Gurnee Mills outlet mall offers better shopping than the Dells does. He also said the location of Six Flags Great America amusement park in Gurnee provides another major attraction during the summer tourism season. Nelson, however, says Gurnee provides little else for tourists. The Dells, he said, has a lot more attractions, and its water parks are "light years ahead of everybody in the industry." KLC will draw customers from a 200-mile radius, including families from Milwaukee and Chicago who would otherwise travel to the Dells, said Jeff Coy, an industry consultant. But KLC also might be too close to those cities for some families, said Coy, who operates JLC Hospitality Consulting of Cave Creek, AZ. Some water park fans don't feel as though they can truly "get away" without driving at least 50-100 miles, he said. KLC may be better suited for guests seeking a quick getaway instead of a longer stay, said Joe Eck, director of sales and marketing at Wilderness Hotel & Golf Resort, in Wisconsin Dells. Wilderness includes 3 separate indoor water parks, a golf course, cabins, condominiums, restaurants and a hotel. "We're still that true resort destination," said Eck, whose company is building a Wilderness resort in Tennessee. -------------- =A9 2005-2007, Journal Sentinel Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Sun Feb 24 11:08:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59787 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2008 19:08:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Feb 2008 19:08:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n33a.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.214) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2008 19:08:19 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n33.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2008 19:08:19 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2008 19:08:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2008 19:08:19 -0000 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:08:17 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.214 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Historic amusement park to stay in town X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=YQyzKYfUoLuedy25Q1Fl5pExeI7o13q2a3tI8q_2-MFXZKE X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 22nd February 2008 The Kent Messenger http://www.kentonline.co.uk/news/default.asp?article_id=3D38691 MARGATE, KENT, UK -- A planning blueprint to bring a historic Kent amusement park into the future has been approved. Plans for the former site of Dreamland, in Margate have been given the green light by Thanet Council. The bleuprint includes some residential development, but the majority of the site, including the listed Dreamland building and Scenic Railway, will remain and be incorporated into new amusement facilities. Local people were asked for their views on the planning guidance and the majority agreed with its proposals, although there was a concern that as much of the site as possible should be retained for leisure to avoid more homes being built. The residential space will help to fund the provision and operation of a new high-quality amusement park in the future. The planning guidance for potential developers was developed by the council, liaising with a number of other organisations, including the Margate Renewal Partnership, SEEDA, Kent County Council, English Partnerships and the Save Dreamland Campaign. Cllr Roger Latchford, cabinet member for culture and economy, said: "This planning guidance clearly sets out to prospective developers exactly what the council - and the local community - are looking for on the site. "People have made it clear that they wish to keep an amusement park on the majority of the site and to avoid more house building, but we have to be realistic and accept that for the first to happen, it will probably need to be funded by an element of residential development. "Now that this guidance is in place, we look forward to working with developers and seeing their ideas." A second planning brief will now be prepared for the town's Arlington Square site. -------------- =A9 Kent Messenger Limited 1998 - 2008 From adamnvillani@yahoo.com Mon Feb 25 08:08:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: adamnvillani@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 56470 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2008 16:08:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Feb 2008 16:08:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n48d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.174) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2008 16:08:45 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n48.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2008 16:08:45 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2008 16:08:45 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2008 16:08:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:08:43 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.174 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 161.149.63.100 From: "adamnvillani" Subject: Re: MISC: Interview at Cliff's X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=145821173; y=ghBSdbiE3CpUehPtctMjQ3vFpxXdpQ5vCAgXM5__BRaoACST4riD X-Yahoo-Profile: adamnvillani --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > > Wish me luck y'all. > I have an interview with Cliff's Amusement Park on Monday! Good luck! Adam http://blogbilongadam.blogspot.com From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 25 14:30:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 95287 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2008 22:30:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Feb 2008 22:30:19 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n34a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.128) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2008 22:30:19 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n34.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2008 22:30:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.5] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2008 22:30:19 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t5.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2008 22:30:19 -0000 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:30:18 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.128 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: The 1st IAAPA Middle East Safety Conference X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=WPg4m2u67Vf6oCozlXKPc1YUQyHGWJe9pLNKJQ0lOGkX_Jw X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 IAAPA http://www.iaapa.org/expos/MESConference.asp DUBAI, EAU -- February 27 =96 28, 2008, IAAPA proudly announces the FIRST IAAPA MIDDLE EAST SAFETY CONFERENCE, exclusively designed for operators, developers, and government officials interested in achieving excellence in safety for the amusement and attractions industry in the Middle East region. The conference will provide a combination of lecture, roundtable, and networking opportunities that will allow delegates to learn best safety practices and share their own experiences and challenges. ---------- =A9 2008 International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 25 14:33:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 59307 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2008 22:33:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Feb 2008 22:33:06 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n50a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.144) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2008 22:33:06 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n50.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2008 22:33:06 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.6] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2008 22:33:06 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t6.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2008 22:33:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:33:05 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.144 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: IAAPA 2008 Legislative Summit X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=dEnDB_iXz9FFeO5mSDkHF9xON8GkEWMmRQn7i7Jnmn-730w X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 IAAPA http://www.iaapa.org/government/legislativesummit/ WASHINGTON, DC -- March 11 =96 12, 2008, Open to all IAAPA members in the U.S., the 2008 Legislative Summit is your opportunity to make sure your voice, and the voice of the industry is heard in Washington. You will learn how to effectively lobby your congressman and then will have the opportunity put your new skills to work when you meet with representatives and senators from your home state. Register before February 9, 2008 and save! ------------- =A9 2008 International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions From aelk2004@yahoo.com Mon Feb 25 14:47:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 235 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2008 22:47:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Feb 2008 22:47:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n30a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.33) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2008 22:47:29 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n30.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2008 22:47:28 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.67.199] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2008 22:47:28 -0000 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:47:27 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.33 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Water-savings will allow 6FOG to open water rides X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=U_lMZ5LVdZfggCCRNlcgMbObjQKSWOTRXoG5WbED-RURQ1Y X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 FEB 22, 2008 Amusement Today http://www.amusementtoday.com/ AUSTEll, GA -- According to a recent story published in the The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the area's ongoing drought prompted an unusual deal this week between Six Flags Over Georgia (6FOG) and Cobb County. In exchange for installing low-flow toilets, urinals and faucets, 6FOG will be allowed to operate its water rides when it opens March 1. 6FOG spokeswoman Hela Sheth said more than half the park's water is used in the restrooms. Replacing 125 toilets installed before 1992 and updating other plumbing will save about 18% of all water used. "The upgrades will mean water conservation for years to come, even when the drought is over," Sheth said. "Closing the rides would only address short-term conservation." Closing the water rides, including Skull Island, Splashwater Falls, Thunder River and Log Jamboree, would shave only about 13% off the water used at the park. A waterless visit this spring and summer to 6FOG had been a real possibility as county officials try to meet the state mandate to reduce water use by 10%. They discussed shutting the rides at a meeting last month with 6FOG representatives. 6FOG is not in Cobb's top 150 water users year-round. "I think 6FOG is making the kind of strides we would hope that all water users would make, that is to evaluate where they can take measures to accomplish the water savings," said Glenn Page, GM of the Cobb County-Marietta Water Authority. 6FOG also plans to use well water to fill at least 2 of the rides and water the landscaping from spring-fed lakes and stormwater runoff. The company also plans to update the plumbing at White Water, its waterpark in Marietta. ---------- =A9 2008 Amusement Today From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 06:44:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 66159 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2008 14:44:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2008 14:44:21 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n47b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.161) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2008 14:44:21 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n47.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 14:44:21 -0000 X-Received: from [209.73.164.83] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 14:44:20 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 14:44:05 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:44:05 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.168.161 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: Re: MISC: Interview at Cliff's X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=26fsCEoSte2t_VrcJPBEVvFc1txqPrRFynMdv9ub9PyxlwQ X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Well, I got hired yesterday. Granted, like most Amusement Parks, they're only open for half of the year. What I thought was funny was, the "Kid" I interviewed with (I say Kid, because he's about, what ... 22?), has "Supervisor" embroidered on his shirt -- and here's the kicker -- this was his 2nd season! Apparently, promotion won't be a problem. Oh, and I be a ride operator -- in their Kiddyland. I don't mean to laugh, but after having worked in the "real world" for so long ... -Alan --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "adamnvillani" wrote: > > --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > > Wish me luck y'all. > > I have an interview with Cliff's Amusement Park on Monday! >=20 > Good luck! >=20 > Adam From m.e.cowan@gmail.com Tue Feb 26 06:45:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: m.e.cowan@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 78213 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2008 14:45:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2008 14:45:45 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO hs-out-0708.google.com) (64.233.178.249) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2008 14:45:45 -0000 X-Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 23so2822887hsn.12 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:45:45 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.100.14.17 with SMTP id 17mr9818327ann.66.1204037144972; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:45:44 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.100.13.10 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:45:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ab4641f0802260645v10a2ec9ax9deba38291eb3c94@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:45:44 -0500 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Originating-IP: 64.233.178.249 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 From: "Michael Cowan" Subject: Re: [RollerCoasterTalk] Re: MISC: Interview at Cliff's X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=284040117; y=DCqVDTk7lmTn5RmvGRP0g7vFic-nTM4CY4bSIICOzjzLt0I X-Yahoo-Profile: mike_ska congratulations! On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Alan wrote: > > > > > > > Well, I got hired yesterday. > Granted, like most Amusement Parks, they're only open for half of the > year. > > What I thought was funny was, the "Kid" I interviewed with (I say Kid, > because he's about, what ... 22?), has "Supervisor" embroidered on his > shirt -- and here's the kicker -- this was his 2nd season! > > Apparently, promotion won't be a problem. > > Oh, and I be a ride operator -- in their Kiddyland. > > I don't mean to laugh, but after having worked in the "real world" for > so long ... > > -Alan > > --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "adamnvillani" > > wrote: > > > > --- In RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote: > > > Wish me luck y'all. > > > I have an interview with Cliff's Amusement Park on Monday! > > > > Good luck! > > > > Adam > > From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 06:54:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 66690 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2008 14:54:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2008 14:54:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n26c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.218) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2008 14:54:30 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n26.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 14:54:27 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.92] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 14:54:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:54:27 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.218 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: RUMOR: 300-mph train from Vegas to Disneyland X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=J9F8WhNz_9Dm5-gnKVtmKPsRlqTLS_n6GeeJBSHzRphH-EM X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 25, 2008 The Associated Press USA Today http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2008-02-25-vegas-disneyland-train_N.htm= ?csp=3D34 By Erica Werner and Kathleen Hennessey LAS VEGAS, NV -=97 It's been hailed as the future of mass transit and ridiculed as a big gamble on little more than an amusement park ride. Which is a pretty clever insult, considering the project in question is a magnetically levitating train that would speed tourists from Las Vegas (LV) to Disneyland (DL). Whether the idea ever gets off the drawing board depends on both Congress and the fate of a rival train project that appears to be picking up steam. "What all of this shows is that there's certainly a need for high-speed rail, an interest in high-speed rail. We're finally getting the attention," said Alan Wapner, a member of the Ontario, CA, City Council who also sits on the commission pushing for what would be the nation's first MagLev train. "It's time the US wake up and realize that we need to develop alternative technologies." The dueling plans are competing for a big piece of the tourism industry: 10-Million Southern Californians make the 250-plus-mile drive to LV each year. The vast majority take an increasingly clogged I-15 that can slow to a crawl and make the drive an ordeal of 5 hours or more. For nearly 2 decades, the main plan in the works was the futuristic MagLev train that would zip riders between Sin City and the Magic Kingdom in well under 2 hours, hurtling across the wide-open desert at up to 300 mph. But a delay in federal funds needed for planning the public-private venture has suddenly given traction to a cheaper diesel-electric alternative dubbed DesertXpress (DX). The privately funded DX would whisk riders to LV at 125 mph from the Mojave Desert town of Victorville, CA, some 1-1/2 hours northeast of LA. Total travel time, including the drive to Victorville: 3-4 hours. Backers of DX, among them NV GOP powerbroker Sig Rogich, are pouring millions into their project and courting NV lawmakers, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-NV, a longtime supporter of MagLev. The most recent delay to afflict the Anaheim-to-Vegas MagLev plan was a drafting error that blocked $45 million the project was supposed to get in Congress' 2005 highway bill. Legislation to correct the error cleared the House last year and is awaiting passage in the Senate, where it has been tied up by unrelated issues. If it gets the financial boost, the MagLev project plans to issue bonds and seek government loans. The holdup has given Rogich time to make his case. "I'm hoping that the Senate as a whole will look at what's been spent to date and ask specifically what is this $45 million for," Rogich said. MagLev has received more than $9 million in federal money over the years, spending most of it on design plans, ridership projections and other studies. The additional $45 million would pay principally for government-required environmental reviews. DX says its project would cost $3-$5 billion =97 compared with $12 billion or more for MagLev =97 and would be privately financed. MagLev's higher price tag comes from its technology: superswift, silent trains propelled over special tracks by electricity and magnetic forces. The technology is in commercial use only on 1 short route in China. Over the past several decades, a number of MagLev proposals in this country have never moved beyond the planning phase. That is just one reason many are skeptical either train will ever leave the station. Among other reasons: Neither proposal actually brings travelers to LA. DX says extending its tracks that far south is too expensive and unnecessary. Even a train that ran between LA and LV wouldn't guarantee financial success. Amtrak's Desert Wind between the 2 cities was canceled in 1997 because of low ridership. "I remain skeptical that there's sufficient demand to make it appear it could be a market success," said Martin Wachs at the Rand Corp. think tank. "And it would depend ultimately on the willingness of taxpayers to subsidize to some extent that service." ------------- Copyright 2008 The Associated Press Copyright 2008 USA TODAY From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 07:07:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 37412 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2008 15:07:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2008 15:07:58 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n48d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.174) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2008 15:07:58 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n48.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 15:07:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 15:07:58 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.89] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 15:06:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:06:17 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.174 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Tokyo Disneyland plans Mickey Mouse for seniors X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=Lxk09niaZq3nPhaQzBdnhYbpBAw94CLMKvG2KGHtPJJ6P1o X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 Feb 21, 2008 Agence France Presse Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080221/lf_afp/lifestylejapanentertainmentseni= ordisneyland_080221074646 URAYASU, CHIBA, JP -- As the Japanese have fewer and fewer children, Tokyo Disneyland (TDL) is setting its sights on the growing elderly population, launching a cut-rate annual pass for visitors aged 60 or older. It is believed to be the first time a special annual pass for seniors has been available at any of the world's Disneylands, which are icons of entertainment for children. Oriental Land Co., which operates TDL and adjacent DisneySea, will from March 1 offer a pass costing 35,000 yen (US$325) allowing seniors to visit one of the parks as many times as they wish in a year. The price is a 22% discount on a regular pass. If seniors want to go to both parks, the annual pass will cost 55,000 yen, a 27% cut. "As the country ages and people have fewer and fewer children, we need to take measures addressed to senior visitors," Oriental Land spokesman Hiroshi Suzuki said. "As we aim at family entertainment, elderly people aren't the sole focus of our business but certainly are a core target," he said. Oriental Land already gives seniors a discount on daily tickets. It also earlier sold a seniors' pass for Tokyo DisneySea for a fixed 1-year period to January 31. It decided to regularly offer an annual pass given its popularity. TDL marks its 25th anniversary this year, meaning many people who took their children to the sprawling park at the opening are now around 60. "We see an increasing number of middle-age and senior couples in the parks," Suzuki said. TDL, which attracts tens of thousands of visitors each day, opened in the suburbs of the Japanese capital in 1983 as Disney's first theme park outside the US. Visits to the park have nearly become a rite of passage for Japanese children. Tokyo DisneySea opened in 2001, embracing more adult visitors. Beer, wine and other alcoholic beverages are available at DisneySea, unlike in TDL. ------------- Copyright =A9 2008 Agence France Presse Copyright =A9 2008 Yahoo! Inc. From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 07:14:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 34575 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2008 15:14:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2008 15:14:29 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n24b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.235) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2008 15:14:29 -0000 X-Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n24.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 15:14:29 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 15:14:29 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.78] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 15:14:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:14:07 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.235 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: RUMOR: Disney considered plans for White Bay X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=qgkIcu3VunJz1awJ_kKW3v53BNRhg4dM412J7hl2-1ojTNs X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 27, 2008 The Sydney Morning Herald http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/disney-eyes-white-bay/2008/02/26/120378= 8346568.html?s_cid=3Drss_news By Jano Gibson WHITE BAY, NEW SOUTH WALES, AU -- The Walt Disney Company has been eyeing off a prime piece of real estate on Sydney Harbour as it seeks to expand its global empire of theme parks and resorts. The State Government has confirmed Disney recently held unsolicited discussions with the Dept of State and Regional Development about the redevelopment of White Bay, a working port next to the Anzac Bridge. A spokesman for the Minister for State Development, Ian Macdonald, would not elaborate on what was proposed during the discussions, saying only that they took place in the past few months and had been discontinued. Disney, which has 11 theme parks, 8 resorts and a cruise line across 3 continents, was one of a number of unnamed companies that have approached the Government with unsolicited proposals for the site, the spokesman said. There were no "active concepts" at present, he said. A spokesman for Disney, John Nicoletti, said his company was constantly exploring opportunities to grow. "As part of that process, we have conversations with lots of entities," he said. "And, while Australia is an attractive market, at this time we have no plans for this region." He would not comment on what Disney had envisioned for the White Bay site, including whether it was for a Disneyland theme park, a Disney resort or some other venture. The Government has established the Bays Precinct Taskforce to formulate a development strategy for White Bay, Glebe Island, Blackwattle Bay and Rozelle Bay. Details are expected to be released when the sub-regional strategy for Sydney's inner west goes on display this year. The executive director of the Sydney Chamber of Commerce, Patricia Forsythe, said a Disneyland at White Bay would be a wonderful opportunity for Sydney. "It is a spectacular site worthy of an iconic development," she said. She said a world-class arts facility would also be suitable. The secretary of the White Bay Precinct Committee, Christina Ritchie, said locals must have a say on the site's development. She could not comment on the Disney discussion without more detail. ------------- Copyright =A9 2008. The Sydney Morning Herald From aelk2004@yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 07:27:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: aelk2004@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 10132 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2008 15:27:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2008 15:27:47 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO n17c.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.205) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2008 15:27:47 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n17.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 15:27:47 -0000 X-Received: from [66.218.66.74] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2008 15:27:02 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:27:01 -0000 To: RollerCoasterTalk@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.205 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 76.113.3.185 From: "Alan" Subject: NEWS: Disney to sell time shares in Contemporary Resort X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=174904329; y=cFF-WCpX3ZDFphvP56k1fnILMM3aXfpbqXOpOn6pIwYK3jo X-Yahoo-Profile: aelk2004 February 26, 2008 Orlando Sentinel http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-contemporary2608feb26,0,7478187= .story?track=3Drss By Jason Garcia and Scott Powers LAKE BUENA VISTA, FL -- The Walt Disney Co. has won approval to begin selling time shares in a 15-story tower the company is erecting next to its famed Contemporary Resort, a $110 million addition that Disney has named "The Kingdom Tower (KT)." Disney has for months refused to divulge its plans for the hard-to-miss, half-built tower that is rising just outside the gates of the Magic Kingdom -- despite rampant speculation among Disney fans that it is destined for time shares. A spokeswoman for Disney's time-share division, Disney Vacation Club (DVC), would not discuss the project in detail again Monday."We don't have anything to announce today," spokeswoman Diane Hancock said. But in new filings with the Florida Dept of Business and Professional Regulation, Disney formally states that the DVC will "add a 9th component site to be known as KT at Disney's Contemporary Resort." Disney says in the documents that it will sell the time shares in phases, beginning with an initial 75 units. The KT, which will connect to the existing Contemporary via a 5th-floor pedestrian bridge, will ultimately contain 281 units, according to the filings. A spokesman for the Dept of Business and Professional Regulation, which awarded a time-share license to the KT project earlier this month, said Disney has now been cleared to start selling units at any time. "They can begin," department spokesman Sam Farkas said. Disney appears in no rush. The company says in the documents it doesn't expect to finish the KT until the fall of 2009. Analysts say the company can afford to be patient. The KT, they say, is likely to prove a huge seller, given that it will be the closest time shares Disney has built to the Magic Kingdom -- the busiest theme park in the world -- and the first built directly alongside Disney's monorail. "I'd have to imagine that's going to be an extremely popular product," said Jeremy Glaser, a lodging-industry analyst with Morningstar. Some analysts think Disney is withholding a formal Contemporary announcement because it does not want to undermine time-share sales at Disney's Animal Kingdom Villas or Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa, both of which are still selling units. The company's 4 other time-share resorts at Walt Disney World -- as well as one each in Vero Beach and Hilton Head, S.C. -- are sold out. Glaser, however, said Disney's silence "could just be some trademark Disney secrecy." Disney's filings with the state also offer more detail about the KT's